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Pocket Listings...Vs. Exclusive Agency not published in MLS

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Managing Real Estate Broker with Alpine Lakes Real Estate Inc., NHRE# 02863

 

Pocket Listings Vs. Exclusive Agency…with held from MLS.

What is the difference and when should you choose to represent either one?

Here is the dilemma we will all face at one time or another in our agency forms, requirements, and the ethical decisions we will make related to our clients and the other local Realtors we engage in our market place.

Choosing an Exclusive agency over an Exclusive listing agreement.

Giving up the possibility to collect on your hard work and efforts to market a property, when the seller retains the right to sell to a party self generated. No one likes this agreement and will avoid entering into one like the plague. But from time to time a seller will say he/she has given a family member or an abutter the right to purchase if ever the property comes to market (not a recorded first right of refusal..a hand shake).

If you don’t place this listing in the MLS, your colleagues will accuse you of taking a pocket listing and keeping it for yourself. But if you publish the property and everyone wants to show it…get disclosures…deeds…right of ways…review zoning laws…check the title or any number of things, and then the seller’s inside guy steps up, you are an S.O.B. The up side of publishing the listing is it creates activity…and defines the fee being offered.  Our fiduciary duty to the client is to produce the highest and best offer; competition will clearly offer a higher likelihood of better offers. And in my experience produce a price that even after commissions will be a higher net that the sellers hand shake among family members. But what of the promise to sell to Cousin Connie or Auntie Anna too bad so sad not enough cash? Does more money trump the abutter that purchased his site from you years ago and expected to own it all when you were ready? Or the relative that would other wise have no shot at ownership without the family discount?

 

I will come up with my market value, and ask the seller for the names of those (few) that will be considered “procured through the sellers sole efforts”, and make it known anyone outside of this list no matter the relationship…will be fair game.

 

Options:

1)     Take the E.A. agreement…and keep it off MLS

2)    Take the E.A. agreement …and put it on MLS

3)     Refuse the listing agreement, due to the possibility of work with little pay.

4)    Insist on an Exclusive right agreement and make all buyers equal no matter if they are friend or foe to the seller.

 

Not an option taking the listing and having the private sale comes with no compensation for my firm. In past agreements, we have done the paperwork for the sellers “procured customer” for a significantly reduced fee, and acted as a buyer facilitator to ensure the proper paper work was done, as protection for the seller.

 

1.Take the listing?

2.Do the CMA so the seller can use you?

3.Expect all sellers to be honorable in their intentions? 

4.Pocket the listing?

5.Put it in MLS and let the chips fall where they may?

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          One last questions...does it matter if the property was a unique waterfront piece?

                                 

 

             Who Would be interested in a pocked listing...with no published commission split?

 

 

 

 

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Caren Wallace
Premier Property Group LLC - Tualatin, OR
Portland Caren Real Estate

Steve, it is hard to sell a pocketed listing without advertising. We cannot market what we really don't have. But I get your point, do the work right and the seller will get on board!!

Feb 06, 2010 02:11 AM
Steve Loynd
Alpine Lakes Real Estate Inc., - Lincoln, NH
800-926-5653, White Mountains NH

Wendy, I too have said sign the agreement with the understanding it goes in MLS for the asking price in one week...most of the time the seller's friends don't want to pay market value, and never expected to be competing with outside buyers for the property,so they drop out. But sometime the abutter does come through they want to preserve their privacy after spending a bunch of money to build their special place.

Feb 06, 2010 02:33 AM
Robert L. Brown
www.mrbrownsellsgr.com - Grand Rapids, MI
Grand Rapids Real Estate Bellabay Realty, West Mic

Put the listing out there for all the world to see. Why make it complicated. IMHO it all comes down to money. The seller would prefer to have to pay less (no commission). It just doesn't make good business sense (in this market) to not market your home to the greatest percentage of buyers.

Feb 06, 2010 03:00 AM
Cherise Selley
Selley Group Real Estate, LLC - Colorado Springs, CO
Colorado Springs Realtor

Steve...i don't accept pocket listings...i think the seller needs to be fully committed to the selling process, meaning to put his or her trust in your abilities to fully market and sell the home at the highest value...Family promises and the such only decrease your value to function accordingly...however, i appreciate your sense of fairness and equity on behalf of the seller...Cherise

Feb 06, 2010 03:10 AM
Steve Loynd
Alpine Lakes Real Estate Inc., - Lincoln, NH
800-926-5653, White Mountains NH

Robert...I'm with you all the way, but there comes along a property that you can either list with stipulations or the seller is going to ask the next agent 100 yards down the road if he'll do it...you have to make the best of a bad (not perfect) situation.

Feb 06, 2010 03:37 AM
Ann Allen Hoover
RE/MAX Advantage South - Hoover, AL
CDPE SRES ASP e-PRO Realtor - Homes for Sale - AL

I have not had to deal with a situation like this and appreciate the discussion.

Feb 06, 2010 04:39 AM
Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville

I have given 30 day exclusions for listings, but only take exclusive listings and that is the only type of listing we may place in our MLS.

Feb 06, 2010 06:47 AM
William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

Steve...Exclusive listing is the only listing that gets MLS placement.  I will take a name or two that may be interested in buying the property from the seller, but there will be a 30 day limit on them.   If one of the forementioned people do buy, I still get 1% to cover my startup costs on the marketing.

I 14 years I have only had one person that was given by a seller ever buy the property.

Feb 06, 2010 07:28 AM
Kim Sellers
Lake Arrowhead, CA Coldwell Banker - Lake Arrowhead, CA
Lake Arrowhead Realtor - BRE#01412099 - Lake Arrow

I dont take exclusive agency, only exclusive Right, I sometimes get those closed listings, but I would rather not have them.

Feb 06, 2010 08:38 AM
Gerry Michaels
Glasswork Media Arts - Gettysburg, PA
GettysburgGerry Social Meida

Generally  I don't take pocket listings, however every case is differnt and I might if the situation warranted,

Feb 06, 2010 09:18 AM
Jane Cross
Homes By Cross serving Charlotte NC Real Estate Needs - Charlotte, NC

Steve, I take the listing (if it is worthy) put an exclusion within the listing agreement and put it in the mls. Our listing agreements language is different then yours. Win some-lose some with this industry anyway. My experience has been, that the exclusion never steps up to the plate to buy it. Point is, perhaps it was polite 'family' talk and the buyer didn't want to hurt the 'sellers' feelings, so said, Hey-before you put it on the market...blah blah blah blah blah. Small risk in my opinion. Option 2.

Feb 06, 2010 12:23 PM
Steve Loynd
Alpine Lakes Real Estate Inc., - Lincoln, NH
800-926-5653, White Mountains NH

Tammy...We are allowed to place Exclusive agency or Exclusive right to sell in our MLS...or the seller can stipulate it not go in MLS at all.

Feb 06, 2010 01:29 PM
Steve Loynd
Alpine Lakes Real Estate Inc., - Lincoln, NH
800-926-5653, White Mountains NH

Bill,  this sounds like a good policy...I appreciate every ones advice.

Feb 06, 2010 01:36 PM
Steve Loynd
Alpine Lakes Real Estate Inc., - Lincoln, NH
800-926-5653, White Mountains NH

Jane, Your experience pretty much mirror mine...again with the exception of land being purchased by an abutter...who is willing to add to their privacy.

Feb 06, 2010 01:39 PM
Terry & Bonnie Westbrook
Westbrook Realty Broker-Owner - Grand Rapids, MI
Westbrook Realty - Grand Rapids Forest Hills MI Re

I'll exclude current buyer if they will give me names but if they still demand the option to sell it them selves .. Good Luck and Call if I can help in the future.

Feb 06, 2010 03:49 PM
Steve Loynd
Alpine Lakes Real Estate Inc., - Lincoln, NH
800-926-5653, White Mountains NH

Terry & Bonnie, that is a reasonable expectation, I ask for those name(s) prior to listing and none can be added after it goes out to the public, and most seller will understand once you start marketing your expenses have to be covered.

Feb 07, 2010 12:27 AM
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San Diego, CA

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Feb 07, 2010 11:52 AM
Renée Donohue~Home Photography
Savvy Home Pix - Allegan, MI
Western Michigan Real Estate Photographer

I cannot take an EA because our E & O doesn't cover.  So that is simple.  I will do a withdraw *IF* they find their own buyer that *THEY* procure.  We are so used to withdrawing due to short sales anyhoo!

Feb 08, 2010 04:41 AM
Steve Loynd
Alpine Lakes Real Estate Inc., - Lincoln, NH
800-926-5653, White Mountains NH

Renee, I guess that plan would work in most cases, thanks for the thought.

Feb 08, 2010 05:55 AM
Valerie Osterhoudt
Johnson Real Estate, Inc. - Cromwell, CT
ABR, Cromwell, CT Real Estate ~ 860.883.8889

Steve.. I usually choose number 4.  Exclusive Agency.  If there is a buyer/friend interested in purchasing the property, I put in a time limit for them to make up their mind.  Never has one bought the property. 

valerie osterhoudt

Feb 09, 2010 10:28 AM