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Short Sales COST Money (for BUYERS!!)

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Industry Observer with RETIRED / State License is Inactive Inactive License Oregon

Since 'short sales' are an increasing reality in the local Metro Portland market, I wanted to share some of the other realities.

We all know 'short sales' are anything but . . . short.  They take a lot longer to close, and the number one reason is lenders' response time.

That said . . . the other costs (since time is money) are topics agents need to discuss with their clients before considering whether it would be cost effective for buyers to consider the short sales in their local area.

In our local market, I'm seeing more and more addendas linked to the listing sheet.  And in those addendas are the costs that BUYERS are going to be required to pay to the sellers' appointed "SHORT SALE NEGOTIATORS." For the most part, they are written as:

 "Instructions For Submitting Offers on Our Short Sales"

And they include:

  • "The Consultant Fee will need to be included on the Purchase Agreement, payable by the buyer.  On Page 2, Line 22, in the Earnest Money Agreement under Additional Provisions, include "Buyer to pay $3,999.00 to XXXXXXXX."

Keep in mind:  With a short sale the lenders aren't going to want to pay BUYERS' CLOSING COSTS and/or Prepaids, they will probably NOT want to negotiate repairs (property is typically sold "As Is / Where Is"), and now the "consultant fee" are trending!

On a SALES PRICE of $200,000  short sale . . . let's add that up:

  • $3,999 - "Consult Fee"
  • $5,000 - Closing costs (which may very and the amount used is ONLY an EXAMPLE)
  • $6,500 - 3.5% FHA down payment (ONLY used an an EXAMPLE)
  • $4,250 - 2.25% FHA MIP Fee

The Buyer would be responsible for $19,749

On a $200,000 "traditional" purchase, let's assume I can negotiate the $5,000 in a Seller concession for closing costs, and no there would be NO "consult fee."  A $200,000 'traditional" purchase might bring the totals the Buyer is responsible to: $10,750

NOTE:  This is an EXAMPLE.  But YOU GET THE IDEA!!

My buyer clients' budgets ARE something I am mindful of!

* I'm blogging from a coffee shop, and don't have my calculator.  I hope I can "do the math"

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JL Boney, III
Coldwell Banker - Columbia, SC
Columbia, SC Real Estate

I would assume that the cost up short sales will continue to rise as more and more of them hit the market. We just don't have many of them here at the moment.

Feb 07, 2010 01:45 PM
Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED
RETIRED / State License is Inactive - Portland, OR

Hi JL . . . yeah, I read one of your other comments mentioning not a lot of shorts.  Fortunate.  I don't know what 'negotiators' do for $4,000, and why the buyer needs to pay that.  It all adds up, and sometimes makes them off limits cost prohibitive.

Feb 07, 2010 02:22 PM
Jim Hale
ACTIONAGENTS.NET - Eugene, OR
Eugene Oregon's Best Home Search Website

Carla -

Great stuff.  I haven't seen this yet.  I'll be watching.  Doesn't sound like a promising business model to me.

Feb 07, 2010 09:03 PM
Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED
RETIRED / State License is Inactive - Portland, OR

Hi Jim . . . I'm seeing it more and more here.  It adds up quickly for buyers.

Feb 08, 2010 03:45 AM
Drick Ward Property Management / Broker Assoc
NEPTUNE REALTY - Virginia Beach, VA
"RealtorDrick" - Experienced Representation

That's a terrible idea for buyers to pay for the negotiation service.  Since the seller isn't going to be approved unless they have a true hardship, does this mean my  buyer would be given full disclosure of the seller's financial positions before deciding to submit an offer?  It's only fair if they are paying for the negotiation to have all the facts.  My buyers usually opt to skip the short sales because it's too uncertain and beyond our control.

Feb 08, 2010 04:45 PM
Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED
RETIRED / State License is Inactive - Portland, OR

Hi Drick . . . that's probably another blog topic "full disclosure on sellers' financial position"  But it is a terrible idea to charge buyers for negotiation services.  That's what us real-a-tors are engaged to provide, with a sale of a short (or other type of transaction).

Feb 09, 2010 04:12 AM
Donne Knudsen
Los Angeles & Ventura Counties in CA - Simi Valley, CA
CalState Realty Services

Carla - My clients won't even look at short sales anymore.  Too many of them have wasted too much time on offers that never go anywhere and I share my clients stories (with their permission) with my other clients.  Because most of them are first time buyers, they have no time to waste and will only look at properties that are available right now.

Feb 20, 2010 09:55 AM
Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED
RETIRED / State License is Inactive - Portland, OR

Hi Donne -- that's the case with some of my clients too!! 

Feb 20, 2010 10:43 AM