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OH PLEEEEASE . . . Not ANOTHER (NON Real Estate "Expert") HARPY!!

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Industry Observer with RETIRED / State License is Inactive Inactive License Oregon

Did I REALLY need to read this wonderful post this a.m.??  If there's NOT enough tripe floating around, now I had to read this: 

Buying a Home?  Time for Negotiation Boot Camp

On MSN Real Estate, no less.

Read the article . . . I'll wait.

And with the graphic used in the article, as IF . . . real estate agents are now Boot Camp Sergeants, wielding their barking orders on Buyers?!?

Do YOU practice your BUYER REPRESENTATION in this manner?!?

The author, Christoper Solomon, probably hasn't obtained his real estate license, at least that's not disclosed.  Matter of fact: "Christopher Solomon is a freelance writer in Seattle. A former reporter for The Seattle Times, he writes regularly for The New York Times and has written for Outside magazine, Ski and Skiing magazines, and Men's Journal." Cited

ALL HAIL to CHRIS . . . he sure knows real estate.

I doubt, when he creatively writes using military metaphors, that he -- himself -- is NOT OUT IN THE TRENCHES, as my Realtor® colleagues are.

Is it me, but do you recent being painted with this creative brush of:  BOGEYMAN?!?

What does the wise Solomon state:

  • "1. The negotiation misconception: Let's just jump right in and start looking at homes"

--CARLA SAYS:  Buyers should start looking at houses if their are ever going to be able to discern the market!  There is nothing that the general public can ascertain without going out and kicking tires!  GET OUT AND LOOK!  And stop pretending you're an "expert" just because you can call up listings on Zillow, Realtor.com, or other IDX website.  Your local Realtor® actually DOES have market evaluations, and studies, and CAN comp the market. Buyers are buying REAL ESATE not a one-dimensional blurb on a website.

Other PEARLS are found in the article:

  • "2. The negotiation misconception:  Your real-estate agent is your buddy, so tell her what you can spend.

Drill sergeant says:  Never forget that your agent is ultimately there to sell homes, Cummins says. When you finally do meet with one, don't tip your hand: "Never divulge your upper spending limit. My advice is that you should not reveal your true comfortable spending limit, either," he writes. 'You'll have to give some indication of the price range that interests you. My recommendation is that that figure should be 5% to 10% below your comfortable spending limit, adding that you might be able to increase the figure slightly for an [exceptional] home.' " 

-- CARLA SAYS:  DUDE what do they have in Seattle that I'm not SMOKING here in Porltand!?!?  NEVER DIVULGE YOUR UPPER SPENDING LIMIT!?!?  OMIGOSH!!  I NEED TO SEE THE BUYERS' PRE-APPROVAL!!  And if buyers think I'm in their POCKET-BOOK wanting to show properties at their high-end, with the EXCLUSION of homes that might be LESS than buyers' price point . . . they should find someone else to represent them.  WHY?  Because, the buyer, obviously is not trusting of my skills and abilities, and wants to PLAY ME!  After I'm DONE exhausting the lower-end market, taking buyers out on tour of 30 homes that they don't WANT TO BUY, and then have me show homes around the higher price point . . . THAT'S ANNOYING!

I could go on and on . . . but wanted to end with this little ditty from the WISE SOLOMON (and apparently some dude named "Eldred":

  • 4. The negotiation misconception: A home is a home; it doesn't matter who's selling.

"Drill sergeant says: Who's selling a home, and their situation, can matter enormously in a negotiation. Are the owners getting divorced and do they need money fast? Has the owner just died and do her children want to dispose of the family home quickly?  Once you've identified a home you like, try to learn as much as possible about the owner: Talk to neighborsand ask politely about the owner. Eldred, a runner, says he likes to jog around the neighborhood and talk with people who live nearby to pick up info.

Another negotiating tip: If you're somewhat confident of your abilities, deal directly with the seller's agent, instead of going through a buyer's agent, Eldred says. 'One of the advantages of dealing with a seller's agent is that a seller's agent often discloses more" than maybe he or she should, he says. That additional information can help you negotiate a lower price.' " (emphasis added)

CARLA SAYS -- Eldred, the runner, has obviously got RUNNER'S HIGH, perhaps hitting the wall. 

Yeah, pretend your Sherlock Holmes  . . . or maybe you actually do get a thrill from pretending you work undercover for the CIA and 'investigate the owners' in a clandestine undercover STING.  "Learn as much as possible about the owner . . " from their NEIGHBORS!!  OMIGOSH.  My neighbors HATE me, I can only imagine what they'd say to KILL my deal just for spite!  Or, screw something up for me.  What part of slander doen't Eldred understand?  What if I found out about about YOUR PERSONAL / PRIVATE . .. . hmmm . . . "situation" from your neighbors!?!  'Cause we ALL know neighbors are gossips, and love to kick a person when their down.  Find out about that NASTY DIVORCE . . . bankruptcy . . . loss of job.  Yeah, good advice SOLOMON. Play the neighbors against each other on the house a buyer wants.  Find out the dirt, and then sling it over the fence, trying to get a better deal.  Hey, that's just how licensed Realtors do it . . . NOT!! I'm being facetious!

Oh, and don't you just LOVE the sentence above about the listing agent who BLABS and breaches his/her Fiduciary Duty to the Sellers . . . and with that slip of the tongue, a buyer can negotiate a lower price!  HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. 

There is a second page . . . AND COMMENTS!!  Yup . . . everyone wants to think real estate agents are the Bogeyman . . . HA HA HA . . . take ALL of Solomon's wisdom literally, cause he knows all about what it's like.  Hey, how many deals have you closed Sol baby?!?   

CARLA SAYS -- IF YOU PLAN TO BUY OR SELL IN THE SEATTLE AREA -- CALL CHRISTOPHER SOLOMON and ask HIM TO REPRESENT YOU.  He's knows all about real estate.  And I'm sure with his DRILL SERGEANT mentality he'll be happy to bark out a fine property just for you!  (I'm being facetious!)

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Yolanda Hoversten
Self Employed - O'Fallon, IL
Referrals for O’Fallon, IL & the Metro East

Funny, I read the same article through this featured blog here... http://activerain.com/blogsview/1402876/-buying-a-home-time-for-negotiation-boot-camp-

 

Feb 11, 2010 07:04 AM
Jim Hale
ACTIONAGENTS.NET - Eugene, OR
Eugene Oregon's Best Home Search Website

Give the author heck, Carla.  So what if there is another (featured post) in response to this article.

He deserves all the black eyes he gets.

Feb 11, 2010 07:50 AM
Wallace S. Gibson, CPM
Gibson Management Group, Ltd. - Charlottesville, VA
LandlordWhisperer

NAR needs to follow Toyota's call...PULL OUR AD $$$ from these media outlets NOW!!!

Feb 11, 2010 07:53 AM
John Mulkey
TheHousingGuru.com - Waleska, GA
Housing Guru

Carla - C'mon, he probably lives in a house; what else is there to know?  How hard can buying a home be?  (Perhaps some who paid too much or who were unable to sell can provide the writer with a few insights)  Then again, maybe the editor was one writer short that day : )

Feb 11, 2010 08:19 AM
Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville

WOW, he thinks he knows a lot.  Now I know why I don't get my news from MSN.

Feb 11, 2010 08:38 AM
Joan Zappa
Eagles Wings Realty - Montrose, CO
Professional treatment of our clients, brings awes

Carla, I am so tired of this kind of garbage. Everyone that can log on to the internet thinks they are experts.

Feb 11, 2010 08:48 AM
Karen Anne Stone
New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County - Fort Worth, TX
Fort Worth Real Estate

Carla:  I have read this article before, and understand why you are as upset as you are.  It is simply "sensationalism."  The dumbo writer likes to get the public all riled up as to how nasty and "commission-hungry" we Realtors are, and then pretends to ride in on his white horse and save the poor unsuspecting public from our nasty clutches.  It's what they used to call "yellow journalism."

Feb 11, 2010 09:32 AM
Nevin Williams
Fairway Independent Mortgage Corporation - Cary, NC
Senior Mortgage Advisor

I think one of you agents should write a re cant to all of his points and then have everyone on AR sign it and then mail it to stupid.

Feb 11, 2010 09:57 AM
Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED
RETIRED / State License is Inactive - Portland, OR

Hi Yolanda . . . nope I didn't read the Active Rain bloggers post, but I was certain I wasn't the only real estate agent a little annoyed.

Hey Jim -- the ironic thing is, the minute I was done posting my blog, I got an email from a listing agent saying my buyers offer was accepted!!  I showed them a TON of property, and they're settling on a nice condo in the Hawthorne District.  I saved them $5,000 in closing costs. 

Hi Wallace . . . as a member of NAR, I agree!

LOL @ John -- yeah, he probably lives somewhere.  Probably rents.  The Seattle market is pricey.

Hey Tammy . . . one by one, my news sources are DRYING OUT too!!

Hi Nick -- have you read the comments that went to that article?  Yup, everyone's an expert.  I wonder how this wouldn't be considered 'practicing real estate with a license'?  He's telling people "HOW TO" . . . I wish someone followed his sage advise, got screwed, then sued him.

Hey Karen Anne . . . I remember 'yellow journalism' that's when the writer tinkles all over themselves, right?!?  HA HA HA  Your analogy is right on.

Hi Nevin -- I was going to rebutt the butthead, but I've got work to do!  ;-)

Feb 11, 2010 10:20 AM
Joan Zappa
Eagles Wings Realty - Montrose, CO
Professional treatment of our clients, brings awes

Yes I did read it. What a load of ****. I deal with enough people that are dumber than a post. Now we have a non expert prodding them on.

Glad you got a deal going.

Feb 11, 2010 11:17 AM
Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED
RETIRED / State License is Inactive - Portland, OR

Hey Nick . . . isn't it just a LOAD.  You said it!!!

Feb 11, 2010 12:28 PM
JL Boney, III
Coldwell Banker - Columbia, SC
Columbia, SC Real Estate

We have more "experts" for everything these days and most of them have no idea what they are talking about.

Feb 11, 2010 01:16 PM
Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED
RETIRED / State License is Inactive - Portland, OR

Hi JL . . . YES!!  The 'case in point' article ;-)

Feb 11, 2010 01:25 PM
Andi Grant
310-508-4354 | FirstTimeHomeBuyerRealEstate.com - Los Angeles, CA
Helping 1st time buyers and home sellers in LA!

Oh my goodness!  This was absolutely terrible advice he was giving!!!!!  He works for the sellers...all sellers...in every country and nation...even in the deepest recesses of the Amazon bush. 

Only a bonafide idiot would suggest that buyer's trust the seller's agent more than the buyer's agent by going to ask the seller's agent for info!!!!!  The seller is gaining the proceeds out of escrow.  The buyer is paying them.  Who has more to lose here?!!! Why would it be better for the buyer to trust the seller's agent?

Of all of the bonehead things I've ever read.  WOW. 

WOW!!!! 

Feb 11, 2010 05:51 PM
Carra Riley & Declan Kenyon
Brokers Guild Cherry Creek Ltd - Westminster, CO
Helping people Transition at all ages!

Carla...This guy is a real gem!  Sad how many know-it-all experts spout their theories about negotiating real estate transactions and in actuality can't even spell the terms!  This kind of sensationalism is for selling newspapers with no regard for accurate, truthful content.

Cosmic Cow

Feb 12, 2010 01:55 AM
Donne Knudsen
Los Angeles & Ventura Counties in CA - Simi Valley, CA
CalState Realty Services

Carla - Don't you just love how "expert" with no actual experience get published somewhere that makes them look and sound like they know what they're talking about.  The sad thing is that some people are going to go out and take this morons advice and they are going to be in for a very rude awakening, not to mention legal action if they do some of the things this bozo suggests.

Feb 20, 2010 08:29 AM
Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED
RETIRED / State License is Inactive - Portland, OR

Hi Andi -- WOW is right!

Hey Carra . . . yellow journalism as it's finest!

Hi Donna --  This is a 'puff piece' and I always wonder what the author is puffing!!  And even if a buyer takes some modicum of 'truth' from this article, they have relied on totally false, inexperienced opinion. 

Feb 20, 2010 08:45 AM