Short Sale Proposed Solution for Quicker Bank Response Times

By
Real Estate Agent with Progressive Realty (Boise Idaho) www.Progressive-Realty.info DB-17066

Yesterday, I was presenting an offer to another Realtor for a short sale listing of hers.  We almost didn't get the offer accepted because I put a provision in the contract to allow for a 24 hour right of first rescission after the bank approves the offer since we will be out looking at other homes while we wait.

In Idaho, we have a short sale addendum that allows either the buyer or seller to back out any time prior to bank approval; however, since I have no control on whether that will be a month, two months, four months, or never; I always have my buyers keep looking (unless they are just investors).

What would happen if the buyer found another home they liked better and we still didn't have a formal accepted offer?  If we waited on this offer (a definite maybe at best); we would most likely lose the new home they found.  The seller is in a bad position, since they don't want to even take the home off the market as a contingent offer in case my buyer walks.  One thing I have started using on my listings to resolve this situation is to state that if either the buyer or the seller defaults prior to 60 days from date of the offer, there will be $x paid to the other party.  One problem is that the seller typically doesn't have the money if they elect to go bankrupt instead of sell or decide to accept a loan modification instead of selling., etc.

A longer term solution I thought of would be to go back to the days when the banks would accepts a Deed in Lieu of Foreclosure and morph it into the short sale process.  If the seller would essentially assign power of attorney to their bank to help liquidate the home (since they can't make any money as the seller anyway) this would greatly speed up the process.  

Scenario:  Seller is in default and is hoping to complete a short sale.  Have their bank prepare a legal document stating that the only way they will begin the negotiation of a short sale is if:

  • The home does / does not meet the banks initial requirements to be considered for a short sale
  • They are going to start the foreclosure process by ____ day if seller doesn't fully cooperate;
  • Seller to acknowledge all liens against the home (first, second, HELOC, tax liens, and delinquencies which may become liens (i.e. HOA dues) and that any undisclosed items are the sole burden of the homeowner. 
  • Seller agrees to execute a limited power of attorney allowing the bank to dispose of the property
  • Acknowledgement that the bank will / will not seek a deficiency judgement for any debts forgiven;
  • If the home is still occupied, they agree to vacate and leave the home in it decent condition by the date of sale or else their deficiency judgement will be in full force and effect!
Since the bank has obtained control of the sale:
  1. The commissions would be known up front;
  2. All offers would be sent directly to the bank for approval (this stops the investors from typing up the property and reselling the home if higher offers come in that were never presented to the bank);
  3. Less transactions would fall apart awaiting for the bank approvals;
  4. Buyers would feel more confident the short sale will actually close;
  5. The process should go much faster since it is now streamlined.
Let's work on perfecting a Realtor driven plan that helps fix the short sale debacle!  I am willing to take this plan to the NAR Mid Year Meetings in Washington DC in May if it gains enough support.  I welcome improvements and modifications to this idea!

Jim Paulson


Comments (43)

Satar Naghshineh
Satar - Amiri Property and Financial Services Corp. - Irvine, CA

Here are a couple of problems I see with this just off the bat:

1. You are putting the burden upon the banks in the short sale, instead of the person asking for the short sale (the seller).A short sale is a privilege, not a right.

2. Like you already mentioned, a deed in lieu already relinquishes property rights and ownership. So what you are basically asking for is a deed in lieu without the ramifications of a foreclosure.

The real solution was not to bail out the banks. SMIs need to make the demand for efficient short sale procedures and processes from their servicing lenders. With the bail outs, they no longer have the motivation to do so.

We, as real estate agents, should respect property rights. This includes holding the public and the banks responsible for their own situations and allowing free market to dictate the process.

 

Mar 06, 2010 04:59 AM
Terry McCarley
Coastal Real Estate - Cape Coral FL - Cape Coral, FL
REALTOR, SRES, CDPE - Cape Coral, FL

I can't say I support giving any more control to the banks...I am hoping the new short sale guidelines will speed things up...time will tell.

Mar 06, 2010 06:25 AM
Gene Riemenschneider
Home Point Real Estate - Brentwood, CA
Turning Houses into Homes

It is not an issue of modification as mentioned above.  It is about a better way to do short sales, if you have to do them.  I think it is an idea with some merit.

Mar 06, 2010 07:09 AM
Bobbie Smith
Stroudsburg, PA
570-242-1891

Ya know, it is so hard to decide which way to go here. Short sales are better for sellers and for banks however the ridiculous amount of time that it takes to get these banks to approve a short sale makes them bad for buyers, unless you have a very patient buyer.

If more homes were sold at short sale being that most of them are sold at fair market value then it would benefit everyone. Foreclosures do not benefit anyone, except maybe the Attorneys involved in processing them.

My latest short sale took 3 months just to get the bank to accept doing the short sale at a reasonable value. They ordered a BPO which came in ridiculously high and it took the PMI company getting involved and ordering an actual appraisal to get them to accept fair market value. Once they accepted that and approved the short sale at that value then we began to "roll" on the short sale itself.

Who takes the brunt of the loss however? Can our banking systems continue to handle these kind of losses. We have lost so many banks already.

There must be a workable solution for all - Somewhere - Somehow. Until we find it, none of us will recover/stabilize.

Loan modifications could be a great solution if only the lenders would do them, and do them quickly, and within reason. I've seen to many homeowners who would have been happy to extend their mortgage by 5 years or so if only they could stay in their home, the home they love so much.

Mar 06, 2010 09:54 AM
Bob and Debbie Gibbs
J. Rockcliff Realtors - Danville, CA

I think the best solution is for all of the banks to take the Wachovia lead and actually focus on getting these homes sold.

Mar 06, 2010 10:50 AM
Anonymous
Mark Cohen, Realtor, Broker, Eyemark Realty, Gainesville, Florid

No matter the "solution" for short sales there will be unintended consequences for the sellers, banks, and buyers.  Every transaction is a little different because everyone's motivations are a little different.  One size doesn't fit all.

I have transacted short sales from both ends, working with buyers or sellers or both, and I negotiate depending on the individual circumstances of each party.  I have found that it is messy no matter how its done.

Mar 06, 2010 11:51 AM
#29
Kevin Kravcak
Realty Mark Nexus - Levittown, PA

Jim,  In this case, by investors, I meant the company that actually holds the note.   The current set up for most of these defaulted loans reminds me of how a mortgage broker originally funds a loan.   Broker is the middleman who ultimately has to get approval from the actual banks underwriter before the loan gets funded.  I prefer to deal direct with bankers to fund my loans as I know I am dealing with the decision makers and if my Loan Officer needs to get a complicated deal approved, no one has better access to said underwriters (decision makers) than an LO working directly for that particular bank.   

In the case of short sales, the set up appears to be similar(most of the time).  The servicer, like the mortgage broker above, is just the middleman that has to ultimately get a short sale approval from the actual note holder.  They sign what is called a servicing and pooling agreement.   Each servicer has a different agreement with each bank they service the loans with.  Because of the volume of defaults, there is no way these loss mitigators at the serivcer company know what the servicing and pooling agreements say for each and every loan.  This is part of the time consuming problem.   If we could just deal directly with the note holder the deals would go much faster.  

As an example, when I get a short sale with say Wells Fargo as the servicer of a note ultimately behind held by Merryl Lynch and it also has Mortgage insurance, those type deals always take longer to do than if the note was actually held by Wells Fargo themselves with no MI.  In this scenario, Wells, as the servicer approves it, then it gets passed to Merryl Lynch, the investor, who may or may not approve it, then if approved, it gets sent to the MI company, who may or may not approve it.   This process seems to add, at least, another month to the process.

If we could deal direct with the ultimate decision maker it would really streamline the process.  But, that is living in a dream world!  Slap me back to reality please!!!  lol  

Mar 07, 2010 01:58 AM
Anonymous
Bill Black

We have found that the more short sale negotiations we handle the more smoothly they occur as we find tricks of the trade and our identifying who to work with and who NOT to work with. Some are just not destined for a specific buyer who wants to close in 30 days. By representing the seller we can orchrestrate the transaction- what I am seeing is this would be similiar to allowing Realotrs to also be repsonsible for the loan submission during the boom. Can you imagaine? 

Here is an interview a few weeks ago- And after hearing this it is more like 15 cooks in the kitchen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTHUm88efsg&feature=youtu.be

Hot Hint for the day- GMAC just sold a huge 2nd note portfolio to SLS.

SLS

Awesome at getting back within a week but they usually want closed with 30 days or will tack on another 1% of listing price. They always require 10% of note and they never require a BPO. Knowing this we only submit to the 2nd AFTER a week or two of the BPO being completed so we can close within 30. Hope that helps someone next week!

 

 

 

Mar 07, 2010 05:37 AM
#31
Jim Paulson
Progressive Realty (Boise Idaho) www.Progressive-Realty.info - Boise, ID
Owner,Broker

I am surprised to see so many comments saying my idea gives too much control control to the banks.  When doing a short sale, they are the ones that "take" control and are the decision maker since the homeowner is effectively held hostage to their lender.  The homeowner is reduced to a pawn in this chess game as it is via a short sale, so why not accept that and move forward?

I do agree that loan modifications will help stem foreclosures and I am actively helping people do these.  I am also hoping lenders will start doing "shared equity participation loans" on modifications so that if they write down loan amounts, they can get a percentage of their money back when home prices recover.

Mar 07, 2010 07:52 AM
Kevin Kravcak
Realty Mark Nexus - Levittown, PA

IMHO, Lenders are spending too much time trying to stop investors from making money and not enough time approving short sales and moving on to the next file. So, I also have a huge problem with your #2 after banks assume control.  

The lender may have control over wether they want to accept a short or not but I do not want them acting as if they are the seller and they already hold title.  If they want that, let them foreclose and incur the costs involved.  If they are going to accept a short sale based upon their own independent valuation, then investor buyers (Trump types) should and do have every right to make a profit.  It's unamerican to suggest otherwise.  Capitalism has to work for both the big companies/lenders as well as small companies/individuals otherwise it is not capitalism at all, it's Communism!

Lenders and our government caused this problem, why should they be the only ones allowed to benefit and make money?  

What about the buyers/investors out here?  Who's looking out for them?   What about their right to make/EARN (key word is earn) a profit?   if not for them, things would be even worse.  How many short sale listings do you think would still be for sale if investors did not make offers on them and were willing to wait the 6 months to a year, sometimes more to get an approval?  An end user buyer comes in and is willing to pay more only because they do not have to wait to get a clear title.  That clear title is worth something is it not?  All the effort and time the investor puts in is worth something is it not?

I deal with a lot of cash rehab investors who, like retail buyers, do not want anything to do with short sales because of the time it takes to get approvals. They don't want their money tied up in what if/maybe scenarios.   They want to be able to buy and close immediately so they can keep their capital moving and working for them.    

The small amount of investors out here who are willing to buy short sales, follow the law and wait it out should be looked at as the saviors and partners in all of this, not the enemy. 

Mar 07, 2010 01:42 PM
Alan Grizzle
Chestatee Real Estate - Dahlonega, GA
Full Time Realtor, Lifelong Resident of Dahlonega

Your plan has my vote

Mar 08, 2010 06:27 AM
Lyn Sims
RE/MAX Suburban - Schaumburg, IL
Schaumburg Real Estate

Cash for keys is the process I know of. Get out, here's some money to move. The short sale process is a double edged sword if you ask me. I know how the buyers feel and the sellers.  There are many posts in which buyers just give up and take a hike, I can't blame them even though for the most part I'm a listing agent.

Mar 08, 2010 07:28 AM
Jim Paulson
Progressive Realty (Boise Idaho) www.Progressive-Realty.info - Boise, ID
Owner,Broker

Kevin, I am a self professed "capitalist pig" so I appreciate your comments.  The point I was trying to make in #2 is that I don't approve of people just "optioning" the property via a 1 or 2 % earnest money and selling it simultaneously at closing (if possible) at closing.  If they don't find a buyer to assign it to, they generally walk and request their EM back.  I have zero problem with people that physically acquire the property for a profit!

Lyn, I agree with the cash for keys concept.  Why is it the bank can offer a small incentive to vacate the property and yet on a short sale, they are not allowed to receive a dime!  I am surprised that in the new HAFA regs, a Realtor can't even accept a commission if they are the end buyer of a property just because it is a short sale.  

Mar 11, 2010 04:52 PM
Jim Paulson
Progressive Realty (Boise Idaho) www.Progressive-Realty.info - Boise, ID
Owner,Broker

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Owner,Broker

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Owner,Broker

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Owner,Broker

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Owner,Broker

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