Why Green makes Me see RED!

Real Estate Agent with Keller Williams Greenville Central

Ok so we live in a PC world. I"ll tell you right now this is not a PC post unless you're referring to my computer.  This Green House thing is making me nuts. Oh yeah we have agents certified in "Green" homes but most people I've dealt with couldn't care less about a house being "green". Energy efficient windows and insulation sure..but totally GREEN!! In my humble opinion, the only one making money off Green Realty is John Edwards and the Global Warming crew. And I"m not even going there. It seems the only ones really into this are the folks on the west coast and an occasional sprinkle around the country. Perhaps I'm wrong..wouldn't be the first time.

I mean really. Here in Greenville, some areas do the recycling bin thingy. We dont' even have that in Travelers Rest although we do have collection bins at strategic locations. Not to mention it's more costly to recycle than produce, (dont' yell at me..this comes from Wikepedia!!). But I digress...

We did have one home that was Green a nearby neighborhood. Tres cool house..all recycled this and that and it was really interesting...in the way someone might go to a museum interesting. To live in...not so much. And in totally the wrong area..so nope..sold waaaay below. It just wasnt' an important selling feature to the buyers in this area nor to the vast plethora of masses coming from all over the world to live in the Upstate! So I don't get it.

Most buyers are looking for a place to lay their head and keep their families safe. A nice place that is safe, with good schools and infrastructure for their needs. So the endless chatter is making me see RED when it comes to GREEN. Is it a regional difference?  It's not educational..we have the same information as you...we just don't see it as important as the good house with character that fits our price range down the road. Is that so wrong???


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Alan Brown
Coldwell Banker Montrose Colorado - Montrose, CO
26 Years of Real Estate Experience .

Me too, I am sick and tired of the PC world, the Green World and the global warming thing, we are being conned ...What happened to good old USA ...now we are becoming a nanny state.

Mar 10, 2010 02:56 PM #71
Nathan Tutas
Tutas Towne Realty, Inc. - Davenport, FL
Your Central Florida Real Estate Expert

People on the west coast care more about this sort of stuff than us eastern folk. Just look at the skies over LA and you can see why it would be so important to them.

Mar 10, 2010 03:10 PM #72
Fred Cope
Reliant Realty in Nashville, TN - Nashville, TN
Looking For Homes With A Smile


Good discussion.

I am a "conservative" by birth...I was taught to turn lights off when leaving a room, put a sweater on rather than turning a thermastat up, "waste not--want not", and "a penny saved is a penny earned."  As a farmer, hunter & fisherman, I have always practiced harvesting only what is needed for sustenance.  If "Green" conotes conserving our resources, I'm "Green."  I collect aluminum cans, I insulate & caulk, but I don't go spend money I don't have just to claim a popular identity.  BUT I'M NOT "Progressive" Green--I do what I can to preserve resources, but NOT by attempting to FORCE my OPINION on others.  There are elitist out there that think they know what's best for me, and they're going to FORCE that opinion on me.  That is the Green that makes me see RED!!!

As a Realtor, I consentrate on assisting the client in locating what they want--helping them find the home and eminities they desire, and attempt to inform that person of what alternatives are available.  I try to leave my politics at home and be a professional (I'm not always successful, to be honest).

It is the "cowboy" in all Realtors that is really Green--we care, we work, we take a stand on issues, we do it for a payday, but with our principles in tact.  America needs Realtors to saddle up and ride against the doldrums, negativism and distractions plaguing our markets.  Realtors, Truckers and likeminded small business owners will be the ones to define the Green that will preserve America! 

Mar 10, 2010 05:20 PM #73
Ingrid Laine
Embrace Home Loans - Virginia Beach, VA
Sr. Loan Officer, Manager

I am going to print this blog out 10 times.... then change out the rest of my CFL's to incandescent lights! :-) -Ingrid

Mar 10, 2010 05:30 PM #74
Robin Dampier REALTOR®
Coldwell Banker King - Hendersonville, NC
Hendersonville & Western NC Real Estate Source

Wow -- you hit a chord!!  Great conversation and I wish some consumers/clients would chime in as well to see how they feel about it as well.

Here in Hendersonville, NC (not too far from Travelers Rest or Asheville) the county is just trying to get a grasp on the new NC recycling laws and how to afford to get them implemented!  The areas trash services and equipment do not currently fit the requirements and replacing them is cost prohibitive for the companies and it would force them out of business.  Ah, the conundrum of lawmakers and their good intentions and laws done without a lot of forethought on how to afford to implement them.  Seems to be a government problem overall in all things!

I feel recycling is important where possible to stop so much wasting of stuff that can be reused affordably to help keep things out of the landfills.

Re green houses -- not such a big issue here in our area as yet either.  Many of us are interested in efficiency for the sake of saving money in this current economy so that when something must be replaced it can hopefully be affordable to replace with "efficiency".  If that results in saving green money plus adds to helping the green movement -- great!

Sue of Robin and Sue

Mar 10, 2010 06:21 PM #75
Fernando Herboso - Broker for Maxus Realty Group
Maxus Realty Group - Broker 301-246-0001 - Gaithersburg, MD
301-246-0001 Serving Maryland, DC and Northern VA

I feel that to the new generation of buyers. . this maybe more  important 

Mar 10, 2010 09:10 PM #78
Pam Turner, REALTOR®, e-PRO®, SFR
Century 21 Belk Realtors Dalton GA - Dalton, GA

I'm kind of undecided about the green thing, but I DO NOT take Al Gore seriously!

Mar 10, 2010 10:33 PM #79
Mark Montross
Catamount Realty Group - Burlington, VT
Listing and Buyer Specialist

For the most part, it seems that 'green' is the new trend word around here and I think that too many people are using the term wrong. It seems that anything with energy efficient qualities is being called green.

Mar 10, 2010 10:39 PM #80
J. Philip Faranda
J. Philip Faranda (J. Philip R.E. LLC) Westchester County NY - Briarcliff Manor, NY

I'll tell you the green that matters in real estate: $$$$

Seriously, I am all for preserving the environment and not polluting, but it bothers me when it becomes like a religion. 

Mar 10, 2010 10:55 PM #81
Missy Caulk
Missy Caulk TEAM - Ann Arbor, MI
Savvy Realtor - Ann Arbor Real Estate

Great discussion...IMO it is a marketing niche for some.

Living in Ann Arbor people are very enviromentally conscience but it is still a buzz word.

The green homes which are few and far between are expensive to build, when I show a home that has energy saving features the buyers are happy but it is just not manditory to purchasing here yet.

Mar 10, 2010 11:20 PM #82
Mary Strang
Viroqua, WI

They are hard to resell, as from what I see, the price is often higher than a conventional built home.

Mar 10, 2010 11:34 PM #83
Connie Rice

Such a popular subject and great response. It is a wonderful idea, we have many of ideas that just take a while to come into   the real word use  of every day life. Perhaps little by little it will change over to at least a mostly green life . If we stop using gasoline, how many jobs are lost, if we stop using power, or wood or plastic , then how many folks out of work then, oh, I know, they can go to work in the recycling department and the price of those things will go up and so on and so on. I am sure the government will get more involved or tax it so high that we can't afford it but then of course the government will come in and pay us not to work so we save money on the health insurance after we are taxed to death, oops, this is about green, sorry.

Great stuff.



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Mar 11, 2010 12:01 AM #84
Jenna Dixon
DRA Homes | Cobb County Real Estate - Marietta, GA
Empowers You With a Better Real Estate Experience

WOW.  Lots of interesting comments on a very interesting post.  I live in Atlanta and there really isn't a big focus on energy efficiency.  And I guess the prevailing focus around the country is still on BIG.  Big house, big car, big waste, big TV, big garbage, BIG BIG BIG

Perhaps if we all didn't desire/demand a 4000 sq ft home to house our family of 4 and demand a minimum of 3 rooms in each home that we will never set foot in,  the cost of more environmentally friendly building would be more in line with our pocketbooks. 

But, who cares, right?

Mar 11, 2010 12:09 AM #85
Sonsie Conroy
I serve buyers and sellers everywhere in San Luis Obispo County - San Luis Obispo, CA
Energetic, Enthusiastic, Knowledgeable Realtor

Our office just toured a new listing in a cohousing development. Cohousing is a way of living that is partly communal and partly private, pioneered in Denmark and several other Scandinavian countries in the 1960s and 1970s. (Look at www.cohousing.org for more information.)

What makes this of interest in this particular thread, though, is not the collaborative/communal aspect of the development, but the "green" features. There are about 40 homes involved, and the prices are actually below average for this particular area/town/neighborhood. The individual homes are on the small side, but the community site is quite large, with a big shared garden for cultivation, a meditation garden just for mellowing out, lots of walking/biking paths, and an amazing amount of beautiful landscaping.

The community rooms are built with solar panels and other electricity-generating mechanics that not only cover the entire cost of electricity for the buildings but the community is able to sell excess electricity generated back to the utility company. Individual units have solar hot water heaters and many also generate electricity for home use. The big community building has a full professional kitchen with a composting system that utilizes food and other waste to create compost for the community gardens, which in turn have composting systems for green waste.

The homes utilize passive solar alignment to lower energy costs, and were built with hay-bale construction techniques with exgtra-thick walls that moderate any temperature change and keep the interiors at a comfortable temperature. Plus it cuts down on sound transmission between the units that are joined together (as some are).

In addition to the organic community garden, there is a large chicken coop for use by anyone who wants to raise chickens and harvest eggs. The monthly homeowners' fee is about $155...a $20 reduction from the last several years, due to careful spending and the many "green" features that save the community money.

This developmen was built 12 years ago. It's not brand new, not expensive, and has a considerable track record of active and passive "green" technology. And real people live here...young, old, families with kids, singles, elderly couples.

People can poo-poo the green movement all they want to, but elements of it are already being adopted all over, whether in the guise of cost-saving or planet-saving. And IMO it won't be long before solar, geothermal, and wind energy will be considered just as "every-day" as gas and electric are right now.

For an artistic take on the issue of waste, take a look at www.chrisjordan.com, under "Intolerable Beauty." It might make you think twice about our patterns of consumption.


Mar 11, 2010 09:34 AM #86
Sallie Williams
Keller Williams Realty RED STICK PARTNERS - Baton Rouge, LA
REALTOR - MBA, Baton Rouge

Holly, my interest in "green" features in the home is only a personal thing ... I want my house upgraded in as many little and big ways as possible to save energy.  I expect to see the savings in my utility bills, but I would not expect to recoup those costs in the sale of the house (which I have no intention of selling).  It's just for me, my pocketbook, and my peace of mind.  On the other hand, my recycling is an obsession ... ask my husband!  Every recyclable scrap at the kitchen sink goes into the compost bucket.  Shredded paper goes into the garden.  Recyclable plastic, cans, etc. go into the big recycle bin which gets filled to the brim every week ... it's a system that works.

Mar 11, 2010 11:42 AM #87
Don Wixom
RE/MAX Advantage Nampa, ID - Nampa, ID
"Looking out for your next move..."tm

Holly, great post! Very bold! I agree! I think there is Green to be made that doesn't really benefit much of anything.  Yes, to energy efficiency and cost savings, but it certainly can tend to go overboard. Thanks!

Mar 11, 2010 01:50 PM #88
Mike Garabedian

As a builder, we see so many folks say they want green until we show them the economics of it.  They they usually go for the basics which make sense.  Most of the builders in our market who went all in on totally green homes are bankrupt.  Buyers just won't pay the premium.  There are lots of things we can do to help home buyers be more efficient with their new homes but putting in recycled glass tile or deleting half the windows in a home and lower ceilings is NOT what the market wants.

Great post!

Mar 14, 2010 01:52 AM #89
Mike Garabedian

As a builder, we see so many folks say they want green until we show them the economics of it.  They they usually go for the basics which make sense.  Most of the builders in our market who went all in on totally green homes are bankrupt.  Buyers just won't pay the premium.  There are lots of things we can do to help home buyers be more efficient with their new homes but putting in recycled glass tile or deleting half the windows in a home and lower ceilings is NOT what the market wants.

Great post!

Mar 14, 2010 01:53 AM #90
Stephen Arnold
HomeSmart Elite Group - Scottsdale, AZ

BAM! VIRAL IN THE AR WORLD! I think that a lot of the hype is purely for profit, but with that being said...I feel like we can each do our part.  The country has become a throw away society since the mid-1900's and we have really never looked back!

Mar 27, 2010 05:03 AM #91
Lowry Homes

Great post. The info you've shared will be quite helpful for people who are aiming to help the environment. Going green is truly the best policy!;)


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