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Why are you showing my listing when they CAN'T afford it???!!!

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Real Estate Agent with Keller Williams Greenville Central

So the story goes.

 Realtor shows house to buyer client, client loves house, client lowballs (seriously lowballs) an offer, seller rejects and counters, offering closing costs if they'll be realistic. 1 week goes by, Realtor shows house to same client AGAIN, buyer make another (little better) lowball offer. Seller says X marks the spot and don't bother me with ridiculous offers when we're getting showings and 2nd showings out the wazzoo!

 

Today 4 days later. Realtor calls AGAIN. Seller still lowballing close to 30K. Now this is a moderately priced home folks-192K not the 3-500K where we get these ridiculous lowballs regularly. Last time, seller told me not to bother him with this buyer if they didn't meet X amount. Oh yes, I'll still call and really tick him off with this last offer. Have had two second showings this week and expecting a real offer tomorrow.

Why do Realtors take their clients into homes that are overpriced for their budget? Are they not doing their jobs of determining their client's comfotable monthly payments and staying within that boundary. Are they just wasting sellers and their buyers time by just "hoping" someone might take their client's lowball? It's very frustrating to the sellers and makes it so hard for us REALTORS knowing that we still have to have that conversation with our seller and present all offers: So here are the rules according to me- LOL

1. Comfortable monthly payment- I mean really, don't you have folks all the time who want to see homes and think they're qualified at a certain amount and their monthly comfort zone is significantly lower??? This is a crucial point. And then don't send them listings in the ranges higher than that zone! It' gets their hopes pinned on buying something they clearly cannot afford.

2. Talk realistically. It's not like there aren't 1.5 gajillion homes on the market. I'm sure there is one that fits their needs and their pocketbooks. Again looking at those higher homes is a waste of time for everyone unless it is an REO and MAYBE you'll have a shot.

3. Don't tell the Selling Realtor that you don't believe the home will "comp" out. Any good Realtor will run the CMA before pricing it so coming in at that standpoint makes it seem as if you think the selling agent is just pulling a price tag out of the hat (and I"m not thank you). That's very rude in my humble opinion.

I'd love to hear if you guys in other markets are experiencing this craziness and if you agree with the "Rules of Engagement"

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Karen Fiddler, Broker/Owner
Karen Parsons-Fiddler, Broker 949-510-2395 - Mission Viejo, CA
Orange County & Lake Arrowhead, CA (949)510-2395

Ah, this is a tough one. On the one hand, certainly if you are always looking at homes that are priced too high for the budget...then that's just a silly waste of time. But I once told a buyer not to write an offer $120,000 under list on a $1.4 million listing....and the sellers took it. Didn't even counter. So.....you never know unless you try

Mar 15, 2010 11:16 AM
Beverly of Bev & Bob Meaux
Keller Williams Suburban Realty - West Orange, NJ
Where Buying & Selling Works

Very good conversation and valid points on all sides. It really depends on the house, the market and how the buyer's agent prepared the buyer.

Mar 15, 2010 12:18 PM
Judy Orr
HomeSmart - Scottsdale, AZ
Scottsdale AZ and surrounding towns

I don't show buyers anything out of their price range.  But if they want to make a lowball offer (I've already shown them the comps), I explain that I'll present it but I can't back it up. 

As a listing agent, I had a home that we reduced to $450,000, the price it should have been from day one (they had been listed with a different agent).  Got an offer of $406,000.  Sellers were not happy but I told them to counter, let's see what happens.  2nd day of countering, offer #2 comes in, higher than offer #1.  The 1st buyer didn't believe there was another offer.  House sold to 2nd buyers for $448,000!

On the other hand, I sold a home that was on market for only 22 days and my buyers got it for $27,400 off list price.  I didn't expect that, but I negotiated for my buyers and I'm their hero and the sellers were happy.

It's still a buyer's market in my area and a property can be priced correctly but still not sell quickly.

Mar 15, 2010 01:02 PM
Monique Ting
INET Realty Honolulu, HI - Honolulu, HI
Your agent under the sun

Agents have to stop taking things personnally.

We are being paid for being a buffer between the buyers & sellers. As buyers'agents, it is our duty to write & present offers as instructed. Granted, we can voice our opinion on the likelyhood of a low ball offer being accepted... And as sellers' agents we have the duty of presenting all offers to the sellers.

In this market with growing number of short sales & foreclosures, it is not unrealistic to expect sellers to accept an offer at well below asking!

Mar 15, 2010 01:45 PM
Dawn Marthini
The Real Estate Firm - Gilbert, AZ
Selling Arizona Since 2001

Holly,

 

I have been on both sides of this arguement many times.  It's a frustrating one to say the least.  I have buyers looking to lowball on short sales most often, especially if it's been on the market for more than 90 days, and there is a foreclosure date already set.  They have about a 50/50 chance of getting the offer accepted. And I have often seen properties that just plain don't comp out for the asking price.  In the Phoenix market this is very common- the comps are all over the map in many areas!  You can have 2 identical track homes that sold 2 weeks apart for $30K difference in the price (around $120K-$150K price range).   However, on a normal sale, it is a fine line we walk with our Buyers to convince them that "the market" (as defined by the media frenzy) does not dictate what a normal, reasonable seller will take for their property.

All I can say, is that we don't need to take it personally, and neither should our Sellers.  Just let them know that there are plenty of Buyers/investors in the market who are looking to "steal" something, and to let that buyer move on to the next seller.  We'll wait for a more realistic buyer.

Mar 15, 2010 02:15 PM
Sandy Noll
(RSVP Real Estate) 425.890.0878 - Gig Harbor, WA
RE Pro Serving Snohomish to Thurston Counties

Had the exact thing happen with my listing which is now pending!  Same buyer, two lowball offers and we ended up getting full price to the tune of $27k more than they offered in their second offer.  I agree, don't take your clients out and show them homes they'll fall in love with but can not buy.  It's not fair to them and a waste of everyones time.

Mar 15, 2010 03:07 PM
Connie Hall
All Brokers Real Estate - Portland, OR

I don't blame your sellers for not wanting to see that buyer or that agent again. The worst part for that agent is that seller will bad mouth them all over town.

Mar 15, 2010 03:19 PM
Gretchen Conley
Long & Foster Real Estate, Inc. - Columbia, MD
Howard County MD Real Estate

Love the cartoon!

Mar 15, 2010 10:36 PM
Richard Bazinet /MBA, CRS, ABR
West USA Realty - Scottsdale, AZ
Phoenix Scottsdale. Sellers, Buyers & Relocations

Hi Holly,

Don't go to bed so early... if you can't sleep one night and watch late night TV programs, you'll find a few on real estate where they teach get-rich-quick-schemes by low-ballling offers to sellers that are "highly" motivated. It's a fishing technique. They send multiple offers to multiple propeties in the hope of finding the right catch. Just seems you and your client may be a victim of this technique.

In AZ, we don't have to respond to a contract offer if these are the instructions of your client. So if client says don't send me offers less the "x" dollars, we can just let them expire them by ignoring them. This way they waste their own time and resources, and not yours or your clients.

Mar 16, 2010 12:43 AM
Gregory Bain
Mezzina Real Estate & Insurance - Little Egg Harbor, NJ
For Homes on the Jersey Shore

"It's not like there aren't 1.5 gajillion homes on the market", and 1 gajillion are way over priced for the market. That's why I showed your home - I did a CMA on it. I don't know if you get a lot of showing or offers that are higher than my clients - and I don't care.

Based on the market, market trend (downward - houses purchase last year are worth less today) I gave a good solid offer that could get your homeowner out and onward with their lives (I checked the public records and they will still walk away with a lot of money).

You may return the favor and show my listings. Send me an offer - I will present it. I may or may not encourage the home owner to take it - based on the market and the market trends.

Your Welcome.

Mar 16, 2010 01:33 AM
Jeff Wilmoth
Barrett Financial Group, LLC - Senoia, GA
If you need a mortgage, call us! 404-597-5662.

Amen!  We have a responsibility to take into account the buyers limits/needs. Time is money. The markets are stabilizing. Why waste everyone's time with ridiculous offers? Educate your buyer about the market!

Mar 16, 2010 01:40 AM
Tony Veltri
Century 21 Fine Homes & Estates - Placentia, CA

A couple things come to mind.  One is that we are in a free market economy.  The market sets prices, the REAL price.  We, the Agent, estimates the value based on our perception...the sellers.  Regardless of where I price a listing, I'll entertain ANY offer unless my sellers tell me they don't want anything under X.  This is my job and I'm paid very well to do this easy and quick task.  As the buyer's Agent, I'm looking to get a fair, mutually beneficial transaction.  If my buyers think their offer, characterized at "low ball" by you, is fair, then its fair to them.  You can accept or reject or if you are dedicated to getting your property sold, counter with a reasonable or fair counter as preceived by your sellers.  Don't automatically think that they are unqualified or wasting your time, they are qualified buyers and on the chance they could save $15,000, it's worth it.

Second thing is while there are a number of second viewings and you are EXPECTING a "real" offer, you don't have it now and should not shut the door unless that offer has been received.  I remember a saying that is true, "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush".

Good luck to all, it's sure interesting out there!

Mar 16, 2010 06:16 AM
Catherine Marrone
Integrity Residential Brokerage LLC - West Newbury, MA
West Newbury MA real estate, Essex County

This is probably a case of "Bargain Basement Buyer" who wants to buy but only if they can pay pennies on the dollar.  Sometimes these "Bargain Basement Buyers" get realistic and start submitting offers more in line with market value.  Sometimes they don't, at which point the agent should stop taking them out OR show them properties in the price range that they've been submitting offers in.  That might induce a dose of reality into the scenario!

Mar 16, 2010 08:48 AM
Rodney Mason, VP of Mtg Lending
Rate, Inc NMLS# 2611 - Atlanta, GA
AL,AR,AZ,CA,CO,FL,GA,IN,MI,MS,NC,NV,SC,TN,TX,VA,WA

Great post.  It's amazing how many buyers just don't understand the correlation between a sales price and a monthly mortgage payment.  Others just think they can steal homes based on how the media portrays everything.

Mar 16, 2010 10:40 AM
Jirius Isaac
Isaac Real Estate &TriStar Mortgage - Kenmore, WA
Real Estate & loans in Kenmore, WA

You know, it depends on if the house is priced right or not.  I always look at higher priced homes for that reason for my buyers.

Mar 16, 2010 04:59 PM
Alix Pinzon
Open Mortgage, LLC NMLS # 2975 - Downey, CA
(562)743-6086

I think it's totally unprofessional to send low-ball offers.  Time is much too precious to waste it.

Mar 16, 2010 07:00 PM
Sandra Nickel
Sandra Nickel REALTORS - Montgomery, AL
The Hat Team

My favorite dialogue in managing low lowoffers:

Mr/Mrs Seller, nobody EVER got a bargain without trying; and some folks just HAVE to try!  I;ll bet even you have tried to get a bargain on something at some time.

Take a deep breath, smile, and tlet's give them a reasonable response.  If they don't then come up a good bit, ell me to tell them to get serious or move on.

Mar 17, 2010 10:10 AM
Wayne B. Pruner
Oregon First - Tigard, OR
Tigard Oregon Homes for Sale, Realtor, GRI

We all hate low ball offers, but it's part of the game. I warn my Sellers in advance that this will happen. I work on those low offers and about 30% of the time I can get them to something that is acceptable to both parties.

Mar 25, 2010 12:01 PM
Matt Robinson
Professional Investors Guild - Pensacola, FL
www.professionalinvestorsguild.com

I agree.  I never show my clients homes that are above their price range.  I'll tell them straight up that it's a waste of time (unless we're talking about $5k or so).  Long gone are the days of 15-20% under list being accepted like in 2007 and 2008, at least in our market.  Markets change all the time, and buyers need to listen to their Realtor.  We see these changes before anyone does.

Aug 22, 2010 06:26 AM
Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • GRI • HAFA • PSC • Short Sale • Probate

I heard this question too. But some buyers just like low-balling. I work with few buyers like that, they always low ball even if they agree that the property value is much higher. They just hope for miracle of finding a ''deal''....

That's one of the reason I prefer to be a listing agent. 

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