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The Enemy within.......

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It is time Catholics.....  "Break the Conventions. Keep the Commandments." - G.K. Chesterton -Matthew Warner

You know those silly old fashion 10 Commandments. Yea, you know the ones they don't want shown publicly because they might offend a nonbeliever. I think maybe they don't want to be reminded daily that they are truly sinners. They want to form their own conscience instead of being held to the high standards of what the true Catholic faith teaches when it seeks a "well" formed conscience.

 I am the LORD your God:                        
you shall not have
strange Gods before me.

 You shall not take
the name of the LORD your God in vain.

 Remember to keep holy the LORD'S Day.

 Honor your father and your mother

You shall not kill.

 You shall not commit adultery.

 You shall not steal. 

 You shall not bear false witness
against your neighbor.

 You shall not covet
your neighbor's wife.

  You shall not covet
your neighbor's goods.

We are beginning to get a clear picture of what I believe is the far left Progressive agenda.

 As Michael Voris said in his latest email.

"As the reality of tax funded abortions begins to settle in with Obama's signing of the bill, Catholics across the country are becoming angry, demanding to know how so many Catholic lawmakers who voted for this evil are getting a pass from their bishops."

"For over 40 years, the Faith has been watered down and attacked from WITHIN the Church - and a law like this is the inevitable consequence. And this is only the beginning."

 

 

Here is just one more example of the deception and the evil we are facing.

Stupak defends district's Planned Parenthood clinics

"Congressman Bart Stupak, a Michigan Democrat, is drawing fire from pro-life groups for his support of the health care act he previously was against before President Obama promised to issue an executive order addressing Mr. Stupak's concerns regarding the federal funding of abortions. I spoke with Mr. Stupak on Tuesday about the issues surrounding his vote.  Mr. Obama has yet to sign the executive order as of this posting:" - ***Updated 9:42 p.m. 3/23/10***

For the rest of this story and what Stupak actually said about Planned Parenthood go here you are not going to believe it. Although with everything we are seeing it is not really that surprising.

My question is will Lay Catholics... 

Stand Up, Question with Boldness, Hold to the TRUTH and

Speak without fear and demand that the Bishops hold these people accountable.

"Courage is contagious. When a brave man takes a stand, the spines of others are often stiffened." -Billy Graham

 

 

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Comments (24)

Alice Linahan
Voices Empower - Argyle, TX

Thank you Georgia for following my blog and for always encouraging me and giving me great insight!!

Mar 24, 2010 04:40 PM
Alice Linahan
Voices Empower - Argyle, TX

Thank you JP. Turning 40 (a few years ago) seems to have made me pretty opinionated. I have hope because of such great people I have gotten to know like you who think the way I do.

 

 

Mar 24, 2010 04:42 PM
Jon Budish
Resident Realty - Fort Collins, CO

Alice, maybe the Cathloic church has left the members that are believers?

Mar 25, 2010 06:09 AM
Karen Anne Stone
New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County - Fort Worth, TX
Fort Worth Real Estate

I thank God that America is not a country whose laws are made to follow the dictates of the Mullahs, the Clerics, the Ayatollahs, or the Bishops or the Pope.  America is NOT a Theocracy.  Thank God !

Mar 26, 2010 02:54 AM
Alice Linahan
Voices Empower - Argyle, TX

Karen Anne,

Like I said in this post.-Why do they need a secular culture to succeed?? Why did they need to infiltrate the Catholic Church to succeed??

"It is not that the religious are trying to create a Theocracy it is that those who are hell bent on taking down America need the religious to not have a "well formed conscience."

 

Mar 26, 2010 03:24 AM
Alice Linahan
Voices Empower - Argyle, TX

Jon,

I don't think the Catholic Church has I think the leaders in the Catholic Church have left and no longer qualify to be leaders and should be excommunicated.

The time for the laity has arrived with full force. Catholics are baptized and confirmed to fight evil in the world - and we need to be properly formed to do so.

Please watch this Vortex episode to understand what I mean.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjIKZxfY6D4

Mar 26, 2010 03:29 AM
Karen Anne Stone
New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County - Fort Worth, TX
Fort Worth Real Estate

Alice:  One person's idea of a "well-formed" conscience does not necessarily conform to another person's idea.  And... just as you, I am sure, would not want YOUR world to be made to conform to MY idea of a well-formed conscience, and all it's ideas... I would not want MY world to be required to conform to YOUR idea of a well-formed conscience.  For America to conform to EITHER of our idea's of a well-formed conscience... would then be a Theocracy.  Neither way... is a good thing.

My friend, I in no way, shape or form want America "taken down..." I just do not want to have to live in YOUR definition of what America should be... just as you do not want to be forced to live in mine.

Mar 26, 2010 04:57 AM
Alice Linahan
Voices Empower - Argyle, TX

Karen Anne,

Again I ask you. What is it that makes you Catholic?

You don't believe what the Catholic Church professes. You by all means don't have to conform to my ways but don't use my church to move forward an agenda. That is what the Progressive movement is doing.

Stupak is a prime example of how that was done.

I do not want my tax dollars to pay for Abortion. Period!! Nor does the majority of the American people.

Mar 26, 2010 05:03 AM
Karen Anne Stone
New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County - Fort Worth, TX
Fort Worth Real Estate

Alice:  There IS no agenda... other than not wanting to be forced to conform to the current malformation of the Catholic church... such as it is.  It has been kidnapped... and is being held hostage... by the current Pope... both for the years he has been Pope... and for the years he has been in charge of the Confraternity of the Doctrine of Faith.  He is a disgrace to the faith that Jesus lived while He was on earth.

By the way... "your" church ?

Mar 26, 2010 05:20 AM
Alice Linahan
Voices Empower - Argyle, TX
Again Karen Anne, What is it that makes you Catholic?
Mar 26, 2010 05:25 AM
Alice Linahan
Voices Empower - Argyle, TX

Karen Anne,

The Catholic Catechism clearly states.....

ARTICLE 5
THE FIFTH COMMANDMENT

 You shall not kill.54

Abortion

2270 Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception. From the first moment of his existence, a human being must be recognized as having the rights of a person - among which is the inviolable right of every innocent being to life.72

 

Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you.73

My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately wrought in the depths of the earth.74

2271 Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion, that is to say, abortion willed either as an end or a means, is gravely contrary to the moral law:

 

You shall not kill the embryo by abortion and shall not cause the newborn to perish.75

God, the Lord of life, has entrusted to men the noble mission of safeguarding life, and men must carry it out in a manner worthy of themselves. Life must be protected with the utmost care from the moment of conception: abortion and infanticide are abominable crimes.76

2272 Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense. The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life. "A person who procures a completed abortion incurs excommunication latae sententiae,"77 "by the very commission of the offense,"78 and subject to the conditions provided by Canon Law.79 The Church does not thereby intend to restrict the scope of mercy. Rather, she makes clear the gravity of the crime committed, the irreparable harm done to the innocent who is put to death, as well as to the parents and the whole of society.

2273 The inalienable right to life of every innocent human individual is a constitutive element of a civil society and its legislation:

"The inalienable rights of the person must be recognized and respected by civil society and the political authority. These human rights depend neither on single individuals nor on parents; nor do they represent a concession made by society and the state; they belong to human nature and are inherent in the person by virtue of the creative act from which the person took his origin. Among such fundamental rights one should mention in this regard every human being's right to life and physical integrity from the moment of conception until death."80

"The moment a positive law deprives a category of human beings of the protection which civil legislation ought to accord them, the state is denying the equality of all before the law. When the state does not place its power at the service of the rights of each citizen, and in particular of the more vulnerable, the very foundations of a state based on law are undermined. . . . As a consequence of the respect and protection which must be ensured for the unborn child from the moment of conception, the law must provide appropriate penal sanctions for every deliberate violation of the child's rights."81

2274 Since it must be treated from conception as a person, the embryo must be defended in its integrity, cared for, and healed, as far as possible, like any other human being.

Prenatal diagnosis is morally licit, "if it respects the life and integrity of the embryo and the human fetus and is directed toward its safe guarding or healing as an individual. . . . It is gravely opposed to the moral law when this is done with the thought of possibly inducing an abortion, depending upon the results: a diagnosis must not be the equivalent of a death sentence."82

2275 "One must hold as licit procedures carried out on the human embryo which respect the life and integrity of the embryo and do not involve disproportionate risks for it, but are directed toward its healing the improvement of its condition of health, or its individual survival."83

"It is immoral to produce human embryos intended for exploitation as disposable biological material."84

"Certain attempts to influence chromosomic or genetic inheritance are not therapeutic but are aimed at producing human beings selected according to sex or other predetermined qualities. Such manipulations are contrary to the personal dignity of the human being and his integrity and identity"85 which are unique and unrepeatable.

Karen Anne-

You do not believe this. We have debated this back and forth. I am not asking you to believe as I do. I am just asking you not to claim to be Catholic when you clearly do not believe what the Catholic faith professes.

This has nothing to do with the Pope it has to do with what is in the Catechism of the Church. Which by the way is what this Pope proclaims. Don't try to take him down to take down the Catholic church.

 

 

Mar 26, 2010 06:32 AM
Karen Anne Stone
New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County - Fort Worth, TX
Fort Worth Real Estate

Alice:  Let us assume that all of what you state in comment # 15 is true.  With that as a starting point... neither you, nor I, nor the Catholic Church, nor the Pope... have any right whatsoever... to either make what is stated above... the "law of the land"... nor do we have the right to require that the above be the required conduct of anyone else in America.

Religious beliefs are just what they are... religious beliefs.  Each individual has the right to live according to those beliefs... as long as they are legal... and as long as they do not interfere with someone else's right to live their OWN life according to their own religious beliefs... as long as THOSE beliefs are legal.

As much as some in this country would like to impose their own way of living... their own "beliefs"... on others... that is not what we do here in America.  That would make America a Theocracy... which it is not.  One of the purposes of the Constitution IS to keep America from becoming a Theocracy.

Also... as for the Pope... I in no way wish to "take him down."  I believe he is fully capable of taking care of that himself.  If he has either participated in what is being uncovered... or has participated in covering up any illegal, illicit or sinful acts... that all remains to be seen.  I do not judge, nor should you.

Mar 26, 2010 08:17 AM
Alice Linahan
Voices Empower - Argyle, TX

So basicly Karen Anne,

To your line of thinking as a Catholic I am suppose to just sit back and stay quite and allow my tax dollars to go towards the murder of an unborn child because others have the right to murder that child. 

UMMM really Karen Anne?

Isn't our mission in life to make it to heaven. Or does that whole Catholic Confession thing get me out of trouble.

Sorry Karen Anne that does not fly in my book. I would rather defend those children's right to life.

I believe we need Restoration not Reformation!!

 

Mar 26, 2010 10:38 AM
Karen Anne Stone
New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County - Fort Worth, TX
Fort Worth Real Estate

Alice:  First of all... thank you for giving a real answer... one that is from you, rather than either quoting someone else, or sticking a video in your comment.  Ooops... I take the last one back... I just saw the link to the Michael Voris video... which I just watched.

But... on to your answer.  No... you are not supposed to just "sit back" and stay quiet.  You should be out working on a way to bring about changing the world as it is to the world you wish it to be.  But... I disagree with how you are doing it.

Yes... you should be an apostle of sorts... but changing this world should NOT be done by "force."  You cannot legislate morality... you cannot legislate faith.  People must freely choose what they believe in.  If I were trying to push the version of Catholicism that you believe in, I would "live" it... I would "be" it... and I would "share" it, and in doing so, I would be showing others my actions and sharing with them my beliefs... and hoping and praying that they would agree with me.

Again... I would NOT be trying to either legislate it, or cram it down people's throats.  That will not work.  If I were to give you advice... I would try and make you see that your being so rabid in your attempt at conversion... only turns off most of the very people you are hoping to bring over to your way of thinking... which results in them believing what you believe.

And yes, our mission in life is to make it to heaven.  And no, Confession is NOT just a trick or scam to "get someone out of trouble."  But... the way to best do that... is to lead people... not force them.  Christ did not force those who CHOSE to follow Him.  He led them by the example of His love for them... His love for us.

Force builds resentment.  Love builds love.

Mar 26, 2010 03:06 PM
Alice Linahan
Voices Empower - Argyle, TX

Nice try Karen..... You still have not answered my question what is it that makes you Catholic?

 You see Karen Anne my goal is not to convert folks to Catholicism, my goal is to question those who profess to be Catholic but in reality are followers of Judas instead of Christ.

 It is the hypocrisy of the Liberal Progressive leaders in the church that has caused so many to leave the church.

Mar 26, 2010 03:39 PM
Karen Anne Stone
New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County - Fort Worth, TX
Fort Worth Real Estate

Judas... huh ?  All you can do is hurl insults rather than have an actual conversation.  Here I thought you were sharing your feelings and thoughts with me... by your previous comment... and we were going to have an actual dialogue... but you have slipped back again.  Too bad... we both might have benefited.

What is it that makes me a Catholic ?  Well... I will admit... I am NOT the type of Catholic who believes as you do... that Catholicism has strayed... and has done so over the last forty years or so.  I do NOT follow the warped teachings that have come to be, in error, I believe, the "current teachings" of the ultra-conservative Pope Benedict XVI. 

I do NOT believe that women are "unfit" to be priests.  Or un-worthy... or un-whatever.  Women were both priests, and even bishops in the early church.  They taught, they baptized, they were leaders, they even ordained others as priests in the early church.  If you actually read some of the early readings... you would know this.

I guess if I must stamp myself as being in some sort of category so you will understand where I am coming from... I would be more of a Vatican II Catholic. 

In the mid-1960's... the Second Vatican Council partially restored Christianity to the Catholic Church.  It did not Reform it... it Restored it to what it was in years past... when it actually mirrored what Christ taught. 

As a result of Vatican II... the Church took a step or two back toward what it was in the first two hundred years or so... until the so-called "fathers" of the church managed to drive out those with whom they disagreed... and in the Council of Nicea... put their conservative stamp on it.  What a shame that was.

And... no, you are incorrect in saying that the "Liberal Progressive" leaders in the church have caused so many to leave.  So many have left... and continue to leave... because of the hard right-turn away from being Christ-like that the church has taken.  It has been hi-jacked... and that is why so many people have left.

OK... I have done my best to answer your question.  In all fairness... if you can be fair... could you now address the issues I have raised... one by one ?

In the past I have asked you to address my issues and questions.  You have not.  I welcome you to give it a try.

 

Mar 26, 2010 04:07 PM
Alice Linahan
Voices Empower - Argyle, TX

So Karen Anne,

On the issue of Abortion. You support Universal Healthcare in America which includes funding for Abortion?

Mar 26, 2010 04:35 PM
Karen Anne Stone
New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County - Fort Worth, TX
Fort Worth Real Estate

Sorry Alice.  No more answers from me until you answer even just a few of the many, many questions I have asked you.  Fair is fair... how bout some cooperation here.  But... just as a short remark, here... your friend Stupak... as in "are you a Stupak Catholic, or a Kennedy Catholic"... you friend Stupak was ok with the way the abortion funding issue was addressed.  Is that no longer acceptable to you ?

Mar 27, 2010 03:25 PM
Karen Anne Stone
New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County - Fort Worth, TX
Fort Worth Real Estate

Bill... um, I mean... Georgia... you are such a silly goose.  We were talking about abortion, not the Health Care bill.  The issue was forcing one's belief on ALL women... that NO WOMAN be allowed an abortion... which is imposing a religious belief on everyone... rather than giving women the choice to control their own bodies with the concurrence of their physician.

It is easy.  Every woman should be able to choose what they feel is their best option... again, with the concurrence of their physician.  Does anything, anywhere... force a christian, or Catholic woman... to HAVE an abortion ?  No... it does not.

And... you goof... you can't even spell "crock."  Duh.

Mar 28, 2010 10:25 AM
Alice Linahan
Voices Empower - Argyle, TX

No Karen Anne, It is about the Health-care bill not a women's right to choose. It is about my tax dollars funding the murder of children.

You can use nice words and try to make it all seem fine. But a betrayal of Christ is still at hand. It is a modern day Judas situation.

 

"While Acts tells us that Judas 'went to his own place', his modern contemporaries are still hanging around the Church, collecting their silver pieces.   While Acts tells us that Judas 'went to his own place', his modern contemporaries are still hanging around the Church, collecting their silver pieces."- Michael Voris

Judas Today!

 

 

Mar 29, 2010 08:25 AM