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Ken Holbert talks about the new EPA Renovation, Repair and Painting Rule's Exclusions and Certification

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Real Estate Agent with Metro Brokers Realty Oasis

Interviewer: Welcome to Broker IPTV. Im here today with Ken Holbert and Ken is with Safe Objectives Inc. And Ken, welcome to the show.

Ken Holbert: Thank you for having me, Mark.

Interviewer: Hey, in a previous edition we were talking about properties that do qualify now for this EPA RRP, which is the Renovate, Repair and Paint guideline coming to into effect on April 22nd. Tell me about some of the houses that are excluded from this or, or is my house excluded from it as an owner?

Ken Holbert: If your house is built after 1978, its excluded.

Interviewer: So '78 is the big guideline?

Ken Holbert: No '77 is the big guideline. If its built during '78 or after, its excluded.

Interviewer: Right, okay.

Ken Holbert: But if it was built prior to 1978, its in the rule.

Interviewer: All right, other properties are excluded.

Ken Holbert: Home owner doing their own repair.

Interviewer: So I can do all I want, be as hazardous as I want.

Ken Holbert: In their own home.

Interviewer: If I want to chip off lead-based paint, eat it, breathe it, smell it thats my deal right?

Ken Holbert: Then also the excluded is if you are doing minor repair maintenance under six square feet of, six square feet or less of disturbance inside a room, 20 square feet on the exterior, or, but there is an exclusion to that. If you are doing window replacement, demolition or using a perimeter work practice by EPA or HUD, you must use, this covers it.

Interviewer: Right, I guess.

Ken Holbert: And window replacement doesnt matter if its a one inch by one inch window, you are doing safe work practices.

Interviewer: So the bottom line is window contractors coming into my home are all going to have to comply with this?

Ken Holbert: Yes sir.

Interviewer: If the house tests out for, now do, what if, what if I dont know if my house has lead-based paint in it or not, whats the, whats the vendor going to assume?

Ken Holbert: Vendor must assume there is lead until a test has been done to either qualify or disqualify the house.

Interviewer: So window guy is going to go out and check the date of my house and if I come out there and I wont tell him if there is lead-based paint.

Ken Holbert: He has to assume its there and work with lead-safe work practices and build appropriately.

Interviewer: So what does it take, for a vendor to be EPA certified under these new RRP guidelines?

Ken Holbert: They have to, the vendor or the firm has to submit to EPA and become a firm. Its generally about 300 dollars. Then they must assign a renovator, which is an eight-hour course to go to the work site and be the supervisor of the job site.

Interviewer: So its an eight-hour course that they attend to become certified with the EPA?

Ken Holbert: For the individual, the company just sends an application to the EPA.

Interviewer: So company sends the money and the workers have to become certified?

Ken Holbert: Yes.

Interviewer: What about training for realtors? I know you told me earlier that you have actually had some realtors and appraisers attend your eight-hour course. What about your four-hour course? Is that something you recommend for real estate agents?

Ken Holbert: We do because that way they can come in and they can get a better understanding what the role is, see how its going to affect their business, see what they need to tell their potential clients.

Interviewer: Right.

Ken Holbert: So they dont, you know, come back blind side and say, well I didnt know about that at the end of the sale, they know about it before hand and they can inform their clients beforehand.

Interviewer: Yeah they, so we are really taking a, they are really escalating or taking a step up here on the, before we just did the lead-based paint no one ever knew about paint, no one had any paint testing done, you give them the booklet we are all done.

Ken Holbert: Yep.

Interviewer: Now its changing.

Ken Holbert: Now its changing to where you sell the property you have to disclose you have had tests. Well, if you dont disclose the work thats going to be done on the property you just sold will have to be assumed that there is lead-based paint.

Interviewer: Right.

Ken Holbert: And we are probably going to say it was you can go back do your window replacement doesnt matter or anything like that, now it does matter.

Interviewer: Interesting, you have got a website, Ken, you can send people to?

Ken Holbert: www.safeobjectives.com.

Interviewer: Great, well Ken, excellent information. Thanks for being on the show.

Ken Holbert: Thank you.

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