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Could YOUR Website Vanish?

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Services for Real Estate Pros with Marte Cliff Copywriting

This morning I got a frantic e-mail from one of the officers at our local animal rescue: The website is gone!

Upon investigation I found that their web host no longer exists. It’s been gone since sometime around the end of last month. According to news reports, no one knows why. There’s a sign in the window that says “Closed,” and they’re not answering any calls or emails.

They may be a victim of the economic downturn – perhaps too many customers couldn’t pay their bills. Or perhaps they had some kind of personal health or financial crisis. Whatever the reason, they’re not there and their customers are out of luck.

I was further surprised when I went to Who Is and learned that I’m still the contact person and admin for that domain name, even though I haven’t been with the group for several years. I thought I had changed that…

But they’re lucky, because I’m still here and willing to do the work to change it.

Hopefully the web designer who re-built their site a couple of years ago has kept everything in his own computer, because they’re going to have to start all over.

Another customer I wrote for had bad luck with that one. Their web designer had used some kind of on-line service and NONE of their web pages were stored in his computer. When that host went away they had to start all over from the beginning.

Another danger of using small hosts lies in professionalism – or lack of it.

A friend of mine had her site with a local host who had also done her web design. And they refused to make corrections! This is not so good when one of the mistakes is an incorrect phone number.

Since they refused to fix the errors she asked me to do it, but they had control of her site and refused to give her the user name and password to get in. The whole thing made no sense, since the corrections might have taken all of 10 minutes.

She decided to discontinue their service, but with no copies of her web pages where she could get to them, we had to “steal” her pages one piece at a time and reconstruct them. The words were pretty easy, but the swirly graphics were in many pieces – putting them back together was a trick!

The next hurdle came when she tried to switch hosts – because her name wasn’t listed in the Who Is information. A computer-savvy employee had set it all up and used his own name as contact person and admin. Unfortunately, he had passed away, so my friend went through weeks of sending proof that she had a right to move that domain.

The lesson: Host with the big guys – and always, always, always list your own name as owner of your domain.

If someone else built your site and you aren’t sure, just go to www.whois.com, click on "look up" and type in your URL – you’ll find out where you stand.

If you find you aren’t there, contact your web person and have him or her go make the change. Don’t wait until they’ve moved away, gotten mad at you for some reason, or (perish the thought) passed away.

One last thing: No matter where your website is hosted or how much you love or trust the person who maintains your site – keep current HTML copies of your web pages in your own computer and in your back up files.

Having those pages readily available could save you weeks of grief.

Comments(19)

Bob & Carolin Benjamin
Benjamin Realty LLC - Gold Canyon, AZ
East Phoenix Arizona Homes

Wow -- this is a sad story and a horror story to boot -- all the best to them.

Apr 16, 2010 12:37 PM
Dan Edward Phillips
Dan Edward Phillips - Eureka, CA
Realtor and Broker/Owner

It happens more often than people realize.  There is little regulation of the industry.

Apr 16, 2010 01:40 PM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

Yes, Dan, I'm sure it does happen often. So many people are trying to set up their own web hosting businesses, and when something goes wrong...

But the rescue's host has been around for at least 10 years that I know of. At one time they hosted my site.

I just hope that my message will get people to take a look at their own sites, and get their own web HTML in their own possession - just in case.

Apr 16, 2010 02:02 PM
Lynda Eisenmann
Preferred Home Brokers - Brea, CA
Broker Associate ,CRS,GRI,SRES, Brea,CA, Orange Co

Hi Marte,

Yikes, I never thought about this, it's a scary thought.

Apr 16, 2010 04:01 PM
FN LN
Toronto, ON

Marte - Your points about website ownership are very important.  That is why I control all of my own domain names.

Apr 16, 2010 06:29 PM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

Yes, Lynda, it's scary - but not so bad if you take precautions - like Marc does by controlling his own domain names.

But also be sure you can get at all the copy, graphics, and video for your web pages should they happen to disappear! Putting it back together isn't bad if you have everything you need.

Apr 16, 2010 06:33 PM
Carra Riley & Declan Kenyon
Brokers Guild Cherry Creek Ltd - Westminster, CO
Helping people Transition at all ages!

Marte...Important information... Your point is well taken to make sure you have your site pages backed up. 

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Apr 17, 2010 03:59 AM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

Thanks Carra, I just got word that the animal rescue site will be back up on Monday, so it looks like their web guy did have all the pages backed up - good news for them. My other client wasn't so lucky - it took about 6 months for her to reconstruct all that had been lost.

Apr 17, 2010 04:30 AM
Carra Riley & Declan Kenyon
Brokers Guild Cherry Creek Ltd - Westminster, CO
Helping people Transition at all ages!

Marte... the more we hear it then we process and take action!  I had a plugin fail on my site.. went down.. so you never know what cyber gremlins are going to jump up and bite you!

Apr 17, 2010 06:59 AM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

Oh yes - those gremlins. I made the mistake of not backing up Wordpress files and not doing the updates... lost everything on one site. Now if I see a notice telling me to update I do it immediately!

Apr 17, 2010 07:15 AM
Troy Erickson AZ Realtor (602) 295-6807
HomeSmart - Chandler, AZ
Your Chandler, Ahwatukee, and East Valley Realtor

Marte - Great points about hosting and making sure you are the owner of your own domains.  I don't know a lot about this stuff, but do know that what you say makes a lot of sense.  I would hate to see my website disappear someday.

Apr 17, 2010 03:19 PM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

Hi Troy, it is awful when you realize that all the work you've put in is just... gone.

I was lucky when it happened to me - it wasn't an important site, but something I was doing more for the fun of it.

Be safe!

Apr 17, 2010 04:02 PM
Evelyn Johnston
Friends & Neighbors Real Estate - Elkhart, IN
The People You Know, Like and Trust!

That is scary.  A friend of mine hosts my website, this just might spur me to get my own host account...thanks for the post.

Apr 17, 2010 04:41 PM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

Hi Evelyn - Your safety probably depends on the host who is behind your friend - and of course on your friend remaining solvent.

With my GoDaddy account I can add quite a few domains so could host other people too - that may be what your friend has. But... it can't hurt to check!

Apr 17, 2010 06:03 PM
Joanne O'Donnell
Chic Home Interiors - Oakland, CA

Marte, this is such good advice, I have spent years frustrated by having others in charge of my site - people who who never seemed to have time to update.  I'd have dates of upcoming events that were all in the past - it was very frustrating.  But as I never knew html, etc, I was at their mercy, my ignorance handcuffed me.  Recently I found a new product where they host your website for $20 per month (less than I was paying before) and they provide as part of that a software that is user friendly and I wasa able to not only duplicate but improve my old website myself - brilliant!  I can make changes as needed and always be up to date and it is a major company I have no fear of disappearing.

Apr 18, 2010 01:48 AM
Brian Madigan
RE/MAX West Realty Inc., Brokerage (Toronto) - Toronto, ON
LL.B., Broker

Marte,

I did have a somewhat similar experience. A few years ago I participated in a site not dissimilar to AR. It went under, I lost my posts and in many cases, I didn't even have copies because I used their system to create the articles in the first place.

Now, never again.

Good advice on the backup system!

Brian

Apr 18, 2010 03:29 AM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

Joanne - Good for you for taking that leap. My own knowledge of HTML is sketchy, but I keep learning enough to keep my website going. I give thanks that I have a son who can help me when I really make a mess of it!

If you want to share the name of the company you found, I don't think anyone would mind.

Brian - I learned a while back to write everything in Word first - because it sometimes got lost when I was working on it. It's not much fun when you hit "submit" or "preview" and the whole thing disappears.

Apr 18, 2010 04:57 AM
Coleen DeGroff
Coldwell Banker M.M. Parrish Realtors - Gainesville, FL
Haile Plantation Real Estate - Gainesville FL

Wow, Marte....what an important post!  I'm off to check my WHOIS right now!

Apr 20, 2010 11:24 AM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

Good for yu Coleen! I was hoping when I wrote this that I might prevent others from running into these same problems.

Apr 20, 2010 12:56 PM