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With the Tax Credit Deadline Looming - A Game of Chicken is Erupting

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Real Estate Agent with Keller Williams Real Estate - Montgomeryville AB066108

We put an offer in for a buyer yesterday; the seller has asked that we reduce the inspection Chicken Anyone?period from 10 days to 7 days.  Why?  If the deal falls through, he wants time to sell his house again before April 30th.  Hmmm...... Guess you can't blame a seller for hedging his bets.

We seem to have encountered a strange twist now that we are late in April, sellers are taking advantage of the tax credit deadline and holding "firm" on price and home inspection issues.  They seem to think that buyers will pay a little more these days and overlook obvious material defects in a home because they are getting desperate to get under contract by April 30th. 

We get that sellers have been beat up by the market downturn of the last two years, and they now can negotiate from some position of power.  But it seems to us that some sellers are flexing their muscles a little too hard to the point of foolishness.

Would you pay $10,000 more than the comps support to get $8,000 or $6,500 back from the government? 

Would you accept a home that needs $10,000 in repairs to get $8,000 or $6,500 back from the government?

Do sellers understand there are thousands of homes on the market?

Whose tax credit is it anyway?

The old adage, "A bird in hand is worth two in the bush" seems like worthy advice to sellers these days. 

Bird in HandSellers seem to think with certainty that a better buyer will come along before the end of the month.  That is only 12 days away!  We believe that come May, when the tax credit is no longer available, most if not all of the sellers currently playing "chicken" with the market will end up on the losing end.  Buyers who have not purchased yet may also do better in May. 

Time will tell!

~Lisa

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Fred Sweezer Sr. CMI, LLC.
Hud Certified 203K Consultant - Long Beach, CA
HUD 203k Consultant

Dead lines are dead lines, hope conquers dispair!

Apr 19, 2010 12:36 PM
Michael J. O'Connor
Diamond Ridge Realty - Corona, CA
Eastvale - 951-847-4883

It is very interesting here in California as people are NOT wanting to close escrow right now and want to desperately hold out until May 1st so they can get the California credit as well.  $18,000 does seem to be getting the attention of many buyers right now....

Apr 19, 2010 12:43 PM
Carla Freund
Keller Williams Legacy - Apex NC - Apex, NC
NC Real Estate Transition & Relocation 919-602-848

Great Post - I'm seeing it in our area as well.  Sellers do need to remember that it does need to appraise.  I'm sure there will be some sellers lose out.  Buyers have a list of homes and if one doesn't work, they just go to the next one.  Now that we're so close to the deadline, they're concerned about getting a house with inspection problems and the seller not willing to make repairs or an appraisal coming in low and a seller not willing to meet the value.  That means both seller & buyer lose because the buyer may not have the opportunity or time to find a back-up home if they have to walk because the seller refuses to make repairs or meet appraised value.

Carla Freund Realtor Fonville Morisey

 

Apr 19, 2010 02:13 PM
Dana Hollish Hill
Hollish Hill Group, JPAR Stellar Living - Bethesda, MD
Branch Vice President & REALTOR

We have been in competitive bidding situations on most deals for the last nine months, but many times it is numerous people bidding below list price. Most of my buyer clients understand that the FTHB credit would be nice, but not a decision maker. And many of my buyers would benefit from the first-time home buyer credit, but can't win a home at a reasonable price that will appraise.

Good luck everyone!

Apr 19, 2010 02:20 PM
Joetta Fort
The DiGiorgio Group - Arvada, CO
Independent Broker, Homes Denver to Boulder

They better be careful, cuz things are already slowing down, I think. Of course, if a buyer can get the inspection done in seven days, why drag it out?

Apr 19, 2010 02:43 PM
Timo Yannopoulos
Platinum Realty Licensed in Missouri - Kansas City, MO
Buying and Selling Kansas City Homes

I.ll drink a glass of wine when it is over.

Apr 19, 2010 02:53 PM
Iris Shamas
ITS Realty - Scottsdale, AZ

I have seen it where the buyer was willing to pay a little more with the knowledge that the tax credit will be applicable.  It has helped speed up the process and reduce nit picking.

Apr 19, 2010 03:54 PM
Lisa Ludlow Archer
Live Love Homes-Keller Williams, Charlotte, NC Ballantyne Area - Waxhaw, NC

My buyers even against my advice are being very picky and have a list to "move on to" if an offer does not work out. It is a scary time. Blessings for a great week!

Apr 19, 2010 03:55 PM
George Burgess
RE/MAX Heritage - Pittsburgh, PA

Will be glad when this is all over. I do not see how an artificial market helps the economy in the long run.

Apr 19, 2010 09:03 PM
Lisa Ackerson
JP and Associates REALTORS® - Keller, TX
CRS - Dallas Fort Worth Area Expert

I'm working with a builder right now who has the same mentality.  Won't take an offer that has a 3rd party financing contingency because he's afraid to take his house off the market!  He will only accept an offer that has non-refundable earnest money.  It's very frustrating.  Any other April and he would have been thrilled to get our offer. 

Apr 20, 2010 12:05 AM
The Scott Loper Team Bux-Mont Premier Properties
Keller Williams Real Estate - Montgomeryville - Lansdale, PA

Thanks again for all the great comments and feedback.  We really appreciate everyone's perspective on this.  Only 10 more days!  Our best to all of you.  ~Lisa

Apr 20, 2010 01:31 AM
Steve Wisemiller
RE/MAX Allegiance - Arlington, VA
CRS

Has the IRS given confirmation that contracts  subject to third party approval but only signed by seller
are deemed ratified and approved for the tax credit? If not then I think some of the advice being given is questionable. Another tidbit.... heard that tax returns claiming the tax credit$ cannot be filed electronicaly so the refund will be delayed up to 8 weeks and 25% of the those
will be audited

Steve W
www.soldbysteve.net

 

Apr 20, 2010 02:03 AM
Justin Biehl
MVP Realty, LLC - Fishers, IN
Your Hamilton County Real Estate Coach

I see it as the buyers have the negotiating power around here.  I think buyers are stringing things along til the end of the month knowing that the seller wants to turn around and purchase before the tax credit expires as well.  I am also expecting an influx of backdating of contracts to flood the title companies up before the end of June.  Things are going to be interesting around here.

Apr 20, 2010 02:25 AM
Nathan M
Rentec Direct Property Management Software - Grants Pass, OR
President (Rentec Direct)

We see that here too.  Sellers are assuming that tax credit should be applied to the buy price in whole, or at least the majority of it.  I've heard it multiple times "well they can afford 8k more because of their credit, so i'm not reducing the price".

Who's tax credit is it anyway.  VERY good point.  A lot of these sellers are going to be stuck with their house on the market still on May 1st and all the offers are going to dry up and they will regret their earlier position.

Apr 20, 2010 02:33 AM
Jill Doppel
Jill Doppel Real Estate of Dutchess County - Millbrook, NY
ABR

My clients/my experience in the last 30 days: 2 different buyers and 1 seller in these scenarios.

1- Buyer#1- placed offers for 103K, 110K and 113K on house priced @127K, good financing, close quickly: ALL OFFERS REJECTED. Seller only willing to budge 7K. House still for sale. House needs moderate work done. Buyer has since walked away from buying a home.

2- Seller#1- House listed for 4 montths at 280K with multiple showings. Priced reduced to 250K. Received full price offer with excellent terms, close quickly. SELLER REJECTED. Wants higher than asking. No further showings or offers. Seller has since stopped answering calls.

3- BUYER #2- Placed 315K offer on a 335K house (20K off asking). OFFER REJECTED. Seller countered at 5K off, firm. House still for sale. House has high taxes, no garage and non-typical layout for Colonial style. Seller should have taken offer and run like batt out of hell. Buyer pressed on.

4- BUYER #2- Placed 275K offer on 299K asking (25K off asking). OFFER REJECTED. List agent claimed multiple offers are in. Seller wanted full price. House now under "Contingent" status on MLS. Buyer pressed on.

5- BUYER #2- Placed 320K offer on 350K house (30K off asking). OFFER REJECTED. List agent claimed multiple offers coming in. House still for sale. House in mint condition, at top of it's class. Buyer pressed on, determined not to pay full price.

6- BUYER #2- Placed a 4th home offer.. the best property of all. Placed a 325K offer on a 360K house (35K off asking) that was on market for almost a year. Offer accepted immediately. House needs little work, but has buried oil tank that may have scared away other buyers. Buyers are celebrating and can't wait to close.

Now then, does anyone have any Tylenol?

Apr 20, 2010 04:38 AM
Steve Wisemiller
RE/MAX Allegiance - Arlington, VA
CRS

Hey Jill,

 

I didn't know bat's could run(3)! Sounds like you need some liquid stronger than Tylenol. Congrats and best wishes with your sale.

 

Steve  W
www.soldbysteve.net

Apr 20, 2010 04:48 AM
The Scott Loper Team Bux-Mont Premier Properties
Keller Williams Real Estate - Montgomeryville - Lansdale, PA

Jill,

Sounds like our April!  For every 3-4 contracts we write, 1 gets to a "meeting of the minds." And Steve is right, wine works better and faster.

~Lisa

Apr 20, 2010 05:08 AM
Gary Pike
Better Homes and Gardens Real Estate Metro Brokers - Powder Springs, GA

It hit me last November when they announced the extended and improved tax credit that sellers assumed they were entitiled to the credit when certain listing suddenly jumped up in price by 5-10K.  What are people thinking and why weren't their Realtor's telling them that the incentive is to get people to buy not for seller's to sell.  Thanks for posting this.

Apr 20, 2010 10:56 PM
Matt Borushko
Keller Williams Realty - Carmel, IN
Carmel, Fishers and Noblesville Realtor

Great post. I have been coaching my buyers and sellers about this game of chicken for the past 2 months. This is one of those rare times where the ability to negotiate makes a huge difference to your buyers and sellers. It is also a time where we as agents need to be careful about what we share with the agent on the other side.

Having said that, your use of the term comps is interesting. Comparable sales can be a benchmark for value in a stable market. In a market with rising or falling values, they are always behind the curve. The reality is that home values are always determined by supply and demand. If a seller is holding to a price that is too high, tell your buyers to choose another home. Another alternative is to look for another home and wait until April 28th to put in an offer. By that time the sellers who are still on the market may be desperate again...then where does the power of the negotiation go?

Apr 21, 2010 06:50 AM
Tom & Lisa Slaughter
Century 21 Coast to Coast, Clearwater Beach, FL - Clearwater Beach, FL

I've been working with a few first time buyers lately and have been frustrated time and again by being outbid. Several have gone above list price. My advice to these buyers is to not stress over the April 30th deadline. I expect an adjustment to market value to occur when the tax credit expires and the frenzy (competition) to die down. Of course, there will be an adjustment period for the sellers to realize that they can't get as much for their home after April 30th than they could have before.

Personally, I object to the federal government mucking with the economy by offering tax credits. The stimulation lasts only as long as the tax credits at the expense of the taxpayers. The federal government has far exceeded its constitutional authority. A return to a free market would provide all the stimulation we need. No more bailouts or handouts. Let the failures fail, learn a lesson, pick themselves up, and start again with the benefit of experience! That's how America became great.

Tom

Apr 22, 2010 07:24 AM