Sitting by the side of the road, drooling.

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Real Estate Agent with Coldwell Banker Residential

A recent set of featured posts bandied about the notion as to whether protecting the copyrights on your photographs (yes, those fugly ones that you put in the MLS) was your right, or simply selfish and at the cost of your community at large.

Philanthropists                Respectful Hoarders

I was truly (truly!) surprised to hear a well-known and respected real estate agent espousing the beliefs that you should just open up your internet library and allow other agents to pick at it's carcass for the good of your village, city, town, community.

And what was even more surprising was, that there were many who were willing to jump on the bandwagon... and said... yeah, that's right... for the good of the community... some even put down their torches and pitchforks to write a few lines of commentary supporting the belief.

In today's day and age, to find someone expounding on the idea that "if you deign to protect your copyright, you're being selfish and thoughtless" just caused my jaw to drop.  (and for those of you who know me, I didn't do so silently, as I let my voice be heard on both the pro and con sides of the argument.).

I'm still kinda sitting on the side of the road, staring into the void, slack-jawed after the collision, mumbling quietly to myself... "Seriously???    Seriously???... what just happened".

Which side of the road were you on... did you get the license plate of the truck that hit me?

Oh, well... I'll think about that tomorrow.

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 ALAN MAY, Realtor®   
Specializing in Evanston Real Estate and North Shore Real Estate

Coldwell Banker Residential Real Estate, 1710 Central Street, Evanston, IL 60201
847.425.3779      Cell: 847.924.3313      Email: Almay@aol.com

Evanston Real Estate & North Shore Real Estate
Licensed in Illinois

   

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Alan May
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Bill - in fairness, this guy was declaring open season on his own photos, and strongly suggested that everyone else follow suit.

May 26, 2010 07:08 AM #69
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Joe Pryor
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Alan, I loved your above cartoon so much I copied and used it on my blog post. Just kidding.

May 26, 2010 07:27 AM #70
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Joe - LOL... that made me laugh out loud, too.

May 26, 2010 07:58 AM #71
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Deborah "Dee Dee" Garvin
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Alan, great post!  I am always amazed by the people who lack the intregity of requesting approval or giving credit to an author, photographer, etc.  Apparently, they have a vacillating code of ethics.

Hey, I think Jenna Dixon and I may have worked in the same department at the same corporation!!!   

May 26, 2010 08:39 AM #72
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Deborah - as you can tell, I'm amazed, too.

May 26, 2010 08:43 AM #73
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Lyn Sims
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I was totally surprised & I said so. I thought the post was assinine and sounded childish. I want your photos & you better give them to me .... nawwww nawwww.

You also elevate that gentlemen by saying 'well known and respected'.  I believe he/she knocked himself off his appointed throne.  In this day and internet age, are we going backwards?

May 26, 2010 10:02 AM #74
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Lyn - I'm trying to take the higher road... from comments left by other L.V. agents, he seems to be well known and respected.

May 26, 2010 10:40 AM #75
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Melanie Hedrick
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Great artwork!  It was very kind of you to leave the names off the villagers!

May 26, 2010 03:30 PM #76
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Melanie - the villagers mean well, they really do.

May 26, 2010 04:02 PM #77
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I was speechless....you hear that? I, as in me, was actually speechless. I made no comment because it would have turned into a mini-novel. Thanks for disagreeing too.

Deb

May 26, 2010 04:09 PM #78
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Deb - happy to carry the banner for all of "we speechless".

May 27, 2010 01:34 AM #79
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C Tann-Starr
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I second that in spades (LOL).

May 28, 2010 12:40 AM #80
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Ladies and Gentlemen:  C Tann-Starr, calling a spade a spade!

May 28, 2010 01:42 AM #81
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Mitchell J Hall
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I actually was at a photo shoot today for a new listing. The previous agent's firm does watermark their logo on all their photos. They use the same photographer that I used to use. To be honest, I'm not sure if the broker owns the photos or the photographer. Even though I had new pictures taken, I wonder if I could have bought the photos from the photographer.

Five years ago I listed and sold a property, I was with Coldwell Banker at the time, they paid for the photos. I recently re-listed and sold the same apartment again through my new firm The Corcoran Group. I took some new pictures but I used one of the old shots that I had saved. The $ amount of the photo was debited from my ad budget and the invoice had the name of the original photographer. I thought I owned the photo but apparently not. CB is no longer in Manhattan, Corcoran is owned by NRT, Reology which also owns CB so it seems the photo is the property of the photographer.

May 28, 2010 02:59 PM #82
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Mitchell - I ran into that recently with a local competitor.  I was listing a condo that was now vacant.  They had listed it the prior year, with furnishings and it looked great.  I called the agent to ask if we could work something out, and he was amenable, but the agency was not.  The agency indicated that the photos (since they were subsidized by the agency) were proprietary and they wouldn't loan or sell them.

Ah, well, such is life.

May 28, 2010 03:37 PM #83
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Mitchell Hall post 83, the photographer who takes a photo is always the owner until s/he licenses someone else to use it for specific or general purposes. It is the "work product" of the photographer.

I use my own photos and stock photos that I buy and I don't want others stealing them.

For the stock photos, they can go and buy them the same way I do. For my own photos if someone thinks they are good enough for them to use, they can ask and I'll make a decision based on the need and the usage.

May 29, 2010 02:50 AM #84
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Damon Gettier
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Unfortunately we will always have those that will agree with the poster even though they really don't believe.  These are the same ones that list a house for what the seller wants rather than what the market dictates. 

May 29, 2010 08:10 AM #85
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Nick T Pappas
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Alan, not much I can add here that hasn't been said.  Except that I understand the in your face, look at me, self promotional style and as someone said "drink the kool-ade" I was not going to feed into any of that over inflated sense of worth.

I did want to stop by here just to say kudos to you for representing yourself with professionalism and intelligence.

May 29, 2010 11:12 AM #86
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Charita Cadenhead
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Yup.  I put my two cents in on post sides of that coin.  Aaron was "virtually" hog tied.

Jan 03, 2011 02:30 AM #87
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Alan May
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Bill - that would apply only for an "independent" photog.   An in-house photog doesn't own his own work product.

Damon - not going there.

Nick - thank you very much... it's much appreciated, even though I'm late acknowledging it.

Charita - if only.

Jan 03, 2011 11:44 AM #88
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