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If Appraisers are using Short Sales as Comps.....CRY FOWL!

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Real Estate Appraiser with Lanier Appraisal Service CR004373

I know it is frustrating when foreclosures are used to appraise a property, which I discussed in a BLOG before. See Below Link. However, if appraisers are using SHORT Sales, CRY FOWL.

Why Appraisers Use Foreclosures 

Here is how a Short Sale is Defined: A property sale negotiated with a mortgage company in which a lender takes less than the total amount due.

This is not a "REAL" sale, nor does it have anything to do with a MARKET Sale. The sales price depends solely on what the bank is willing to negotiate and how much of a loss they are willing to take.

We even have lenders noting on the appraisal requests...DO NOT USE short sales as they are not true sales and this is 100% correct. They are not market driven sales and that is the foundation for determining values.

Now foreclosures are a different story, If they dominate the market being appraised, they do become the competition for the subject. Read my post below for more information.

Why Appraisers Use Foreclosures 

 So if you find that an appraiser has used a short sale in the appraisal process. Advise the lender that the appraisal is flawed and another one should be completed.....PERIOD! As a Realtor you know which sales were Short Sales, so you can help the borrowers in this situation.

The lenders are supposed to have an appeal process in place if someone does not agree with the value.

One final note: Many Realtors as well as Appraisers do believe that if someone is willing to pay a certain price for a property, that DEFINES Market Value. In an ideal world that is absolutely TRUE, but there are many other factors that come into play, like is the buyer adequately informed and knowledgeable of the market....that is where the Realtors come in....So if homes have not sold in a particular neighborhood over $200,000 and now the buyer is willing to pay $210,000 for a very similar property, you have to ask yourself, does that buyer know that all the other homes sold for under $200,000 and if they do, what is the reason for them now paying $10,000 over past market sales? Put yourself in the buyers shoes...what is the justification here?

Sure at some point that ceiling has to be broken otherwise values will never rise....and if we see a steady increase in values in the past 3-6 months for example or we have a darn good reason why we feel values have reached that higher sales price, then we can make upward adjustments accordingly to those sales, But we better have sound analysis and market data to support and back up our decision to indicate that this home is NOW worth $210,000. We look at things like absorbtion rates, supply, days on market, etc. to evaluate just where this market is headed or where it is currently.

As I have always said in my past Blogs, we are here to protect the banks interests in lending money.... now more than ever, we are not here to KILL deals, we have no vested interest in doing so! We just want to provide the lender with the most accurate valuation of the properties in question.....

Have a Great Memorial Day Everyone....Remember our VETS....

 

 

 

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Comments(4)

Paul Francis
Francis Group Real Estate - Las Vegas, NV
Las Vegas Real Estate Agent - Summerlin Homes

"This is not a "REAL" sale, nor does it have anything to do with a MARKET Sale. The sales price depends solely on what the bank is willing to negotiate and how much of a loss they are willing to take.

We even have lenders noting on the appraisal requests...DO NOT USE short sales as they are not true sales and this is 100% correct. They are not market driven sales and that is the foundation for determining values."

As somebody who primarily does short sales, I have to completely disagree with these statements.

The sales price depends solely on what the bank is willing to negotiate?

Sure... if the buyer agrees to it and their lenders appraisal supports it...

How does the bank determine what they are willing to take and accept as a loss?

I've never closed a short sale where the bank did not order an appraisal or at least a BPO before determining what they would take on a loss...

Should we also cry fowl if cash deals are used in an appraisal?

38% of closed sales in our market are now short sales... And from talking to a family member who is the VP of Lending for a regional bank in Georgia.. they order an appraisal on every proposed short sale before agreeing to let a homeowner out on a short sale.

By the time that sales price hits the MLS, Multiple Parties on both sides of the deal have come together to come up with that sales price. Certainly a much better indicator of market value then what was taking place four years ago...

 

 

 

 

 

Jul 12, 2010 08:52 PM
Mary Thompson
Lanier Appraisal Service - Flowery Branch, GA
Lake Lanier Appraiser in North Georgia

Ordering a BPO rather than an appraisal really concerns me and that is the subject of another post!

But the very definition of Market Value, which is what appraiser's are supposed to provide in an appraisal report, is thrown out the window with a Short Sale. See Below definition,

Cash Sales are not even the same deal and they do fall within what defines a Market Value sale, as long as buyer and seller are acting prudently and knowledgeably.Many times we appraise homes that are Cash deals so the buyer knows they are not getting taken on the deal. Just because it is cash does not mean an apprasial is not part of the process.

the most probable price which a property should bring in a competitive and open market under all conditions requisite to a fair sale, the buyer and seller each acting prudently and knowledgeably, and assuming the price is not affected by undue stimulus.  Implicit in this definition is the consummation of a sale as of a specified date and the passing of title from seller to buyer under conditions whereby:

•(1)       Buyer and seller are typically motivated;

•(2)       Both parties are well-informed or well-advised, and acting in what they consider their own best interests;

•(3)       A reasonable time is allowed for exposure in the open market;

•(4)       Payment is made in terms of cash in U.S. dollars or in terms of financial arrangements comparable thereto; and

•(5)       The price represents the normal consideration for the property sold unaffected by special or creative financing or sales concessions granted by anyone associated with the sale.

Jul 13, 2010 12:56 AM
Paul Francis
Francis Group Real Estate - Las Vegas, NV
Las Vegas Real Estate Agent - Summerlin Homes

"and assuming the price is not affected by undue stimulus"

and

The price represents the normal consideration for the property sold unaffected by special or creative financing or sales concessions granted by anyone associated with the sale.

Well then... we might as well just throw out every single deal where the buyer received / is receiving the first time homebuyers tax credit while we are at it.. ;)

 

 

 

 

Jul 13, 2010 03:05 AM
Mary Thompson
Lanier Appraisal Service - Flowery Branch, GA
Lake Lanier Appraiser in North Georgia

A VERY valid point and I doubt most appraisers are considering that this credit may have allowed buyers to pay more for a home than they needed to due to the credit they are getting. If we start making adjustments for this tax credit like we do seller concessions, then the Goverment will hunt us down as the sole reason for the continued collapse of the housing market  :) :) :)

Jul 13, 2010 07:19 AM