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Stop Explaining a Commission as a Payment for Services. It's Not!

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Education & Training with Your Move Made Simple

"Don't get too close to me...I have a cold!" We have believed for so long that breathing the same air will spread germs, that it's almost a given. But if you talk to medical professionals, they will tell you that colds and viruses are rarely spread by breathing the same air. It's the exchange of body fluids that spread the germs.

In our profession, we have been told, and continue to tell the consumer, that a commission is a payment for services rendered. We've repeated it for so long that, almost universally, we believe it to be true. But logically, it's not. The consumer knows this and with a tight economy, they are increasingly asking some very logical questions:

"If I price my home where you tell me to, get it in tip-top condition, and make it easy to show, why am I paying the same thing as the guy down the street who does none of these things?"

"When my $600k home sells, I will be paying twice as much as my cousin across town who is selling a $300k home. Why is that? Do you do twice as much work? Or put in twice as much time?"

"If, as a buyer, I do my own driveby's and narrow down my choices so you only take me out once to find a home, why do you get paid the same as you would if you work with a buyer that required three months of house hunting trips?"


As I stated in Ripping the Roof off Real Estate, when agents complain to their brokers that it's getting more and more difficult to justify their commissions to the public, brokers overwhelmingly just tell them to show the client how much they do for them. And while I would agree that much of the public has no idea how much work is involved in bringing a transaction to the closing table, trotting out a list of the 450 Things That an Agent Does misses the point.

The commission system follows the basic rule of Economics 101: high risk must be paired with high reward. We shoulder all of the risk but get paid a high reward if successful. That's why discounting one's commission without reducing the risk we shoulder is often such a bad deal.

Here's the stark truth that we need to face head on: a commission has nothing to do with compensating an agent for time or services. Commissions are all about mitigating risk. Until we, as an industry, are willing to call it what it is, and provide quality, transparent choices in the services we can provide and how we can be paid, we will continue to see our compensation erode and our value undermined. Consumers, not understanding what we're getting paid for, will increasingly try to do it all themselves without the necessary services, expertise and representation that a skilled professional provides.
Erik Elsea
Erik Elsea-Jones & Co. Realty - Fort Myers, FL

Well I don't plan on negotiating my risk mitigation any time in the near future. Great post!

Jun 22, 2010 06:57 AM
J. Philip Faranda
Howard Hanna Rand Realty - Yorktown Heights, NY
Associate Broker / Office Manager

Steve,

What you are referring to is flat fee real estate model and it has been around for years. Ann and I ran a flat fee shop on Long Island for several years in conjuction with our full service operation in Westchester and concluded that full service brokers will always have value and be worth what they are paid. 

We aren't just door key openers, and we aren't just database uploaders. The average consumer, hell the above average consumer, is not better off on their own. Not by a long shot. I had the front row seat to some amazingly bad moves from those FSBOs. 

Half of flat fee "FSBO" listings end up listing with a full service agent. The other half either don't sell or screw up their deal royally because they haven't a clue as to how to broker their own property. 

Interestingly, I notice that the model you "predict" is the one you run yourself. 

I've told this to attorneys before, and we have our share here in New York: If real estate agents were the dinasaur, we wouldn't be in all 50 states the way we are. Attorneys are not involved in most states. Brokers are not expendable. Attorneys are. That's a fact, and while we can argue about quality of advocacy, people still get what they pay for. 

Jun 22, 2010 07:11 AM
Charita Cadenhead
eXp Realty - Birmingham, AL
Serving Jefferson and Shelby Counties (Alabama)

Mollie I'm glad that I read the entire post (and comments)  I "get" it and I'm on board with that.  I totally get that you are not devaluing our services but rather placing emphasis on commission rates as it relates to risk.  If I'm not mistaken, your goal is not to dismiss the value of our services, but rather justify the rates based on the risk that we take (that risk being extending our resources without really knowing if a home is going to sell).  In layman's terms, we are the real estate equivalent to those who invest in stock or angel investors:  we invest in our clients via time, money, resources, etc. in hopes of getting a great return (of which a portion of that is just recouping what we've invested).

Jun 22, 2010 07:26 AM
Ken Tracy
Coldwell Banker Residential - Naperville, IL
Helping clients buy and sell since 2005

Hi Mollie.  Interesting topic...

I want to second J Philip's comments!:)

Thanks for writing,

Ken

Jun 22, 2010 07:29 AM
Gene Neal
Atlantic Home Capital "The Mortgage Richer" - Hauppauge, NY

It is what it is...You must pay for expertise

Jun 22, 2010 07:30 AM
Mollie Wasserman
Your Move Made Simple - Framingham, MA

Charita, you definitely get what I'm saying. We're so used to equating full service with a commission that we can't wrap our heads around the fact that we can provide full service yet get paid for the services or time itself.

I believe strongly in our value - that's why I have such a problem with discounting one's commission while continuing to shoulder all of the risk. When I'm paid non-contingently (by fee or by the hour), I'm paid very well for the time I put in. But I get paid for my services when rendered.

There is no earthly reason that we must be paid by commission with no other choices except that "we've always done it that way". You know we used to ride around by horse and buggy too but someone came up with an gas powered automobile and thought that it might just work a bit better. Now, with climate change, new sources of transportation are on the horizon.

Our primary role is no longer to move the product, it's to counsel, advocate and represent. And we should be paid as the fiduciaries we are expected to be.

Jun 22, 2010 07:38 AM
Steve Cole
Your Home Team Advisors, LLC; 770-649-0060 - Atlanta, GA

Philip,

I am not involved on the listing side or representing the seller.  This is only my humble opinion where the listing side is going.

On the buyer side I must disagree with you.  While the agent will always play a role on the buy side, that influence will be greatly reduced in the future and the introduction of these other professionals will be common place.

There has not been on occasion where the buyer looked at our model and looked at the existing or dinosaur model and decided to go with the old way of doing things.

We will be coming to New York soon and look forward to meeting you.

 

 

Jun 22, 2010 08:04 AM
Bryant Tutas
Tutas Towne Realty, Inc and Garden Views Realty, LLC - Winter Garden, FL
Selling Florida one home at a time

Mollie, I have not experienced sellers not understanding commissions. The sellers I work with completely understand how and why I'm compensated. The commission model has worked since the beginning of time and will continue to work. Having said that there is a small part of the market that will embrace fee for service and service menu brokerages. But my opinion is that they will always be on the fringe.

I recently had one of my short sale sellers mail me a check after closing because he felt the 6% that the lender capped my commisison at was not enough for all I did for them. So they mailed me a check. How cool is that? 

I get paid for getting the job done. Sellers don't really care how I do it.

Jun 22, 2010 08:12 AM
Gregory Bain
Mezzina Real Estate & Insurance - Little Egg Harbor, NJ
For Homes on the Jersey Shore

Mollie, I disagree with you completely. It does cost more to sell a $1 million dollar property than it does a $150,000 home. Just in dress, office, transportation, advertising the costs follow the consumer demands and expectations. You may have a different model and it may work well for you - it may be a niche market that some consumers in that price range like. But, my commission is my reward for work rendered. If I feel like giving someone a break that's my choice. However, it costs a certain amount of money to stay in business and not everyone is going to get a break. The $600,000 home compared to the $300,000 home may cost me exactly the same to get sold - but, I can show you the comps sold and days on market for each and they are not the same. It's not risk, or, risk aversion that I am selling. I am selling homes and the best way to distribute the cost is to charge a percentage of the sale. Call it a progressive tax if you want, but it has nothing to do with risk.

Jun 22, 2010 08:14 AM
Mollie Wasserman
Your Move Made Simple - Framingham, MA

Those who think that fees are for a "niche market", take note: the recent Inman survey "A New Decade in Real Estate" showed that 64% of respondents believe that fees will be the dominant way that real estate is paid for come 2020. There are some of us who think it may come sooner.  More and more consumers are growing weary of commissions that are based on the price of the house rather than the services rendered.

Again, just because something has always been done a certain way in the past does not mean that it's the best way going forward. As Bob Dylan said "The Times - they are a changin'".

Jun 22, 2010 10:32 AM
Ted Tyndall
Davidson Realty Inc. - Saint Augustine, FL
I will help You find the Home YOU want to Buy

Mollie, I have to disagree that a commission is not for services rendered.

I also agree with Bryant that I have had no trouble from clients on paying a commission and understanding what it is for.

Jun 22, 2010 11:06 AM
Mollie Wasserman
Your Move Made Simple - Framingham, MA

Ted, certainly the services are included but what you charge with a commission is not based on the services rendered, it's a percentage of the home's sale price. We can dance around it all we want but that is what a commission is. Perhaps you have no trouble explaining what a commission is - I have no problem either. And again I stress that there is nothing wrong with paying by commission as long as the client understands what they are paying for and why they pay a premium when they pay by commission.

Jun 22, 2010 11:44 AM
Neal Bloom
Brokered by eXp Realty LLC - Weston, FL
Realtor CRS-Weston FL Real Estate

Hi Mollie,

I don'twork with many buyers so my clients are generally sellers IE short sale lenders etc. It's all laid out in the listing agreement. If I choose to charge more or less....the sellers all are aware of the fee that they pay me. I think that in almost 15 yrs..I had one or two that might have questioned it at the closing but they paid it. I've had hard deals...and I've hard real eas deals.

I guess I really never thought about that but to me is to get the job done and get compensated for it whether it be called commissions or brokerage fees...in the end the clients know what they have to pay us...it's disclosed. If a client has an issue with what they are paying then they'lll tell me when I meet with them and they sign up. And I do beleive we offer a service because if we didn't then everyone would probably be doing it too.

Jun 22, 2010 11:46 AM
Bob & Carolin Benjamin
Benjamin Realty LLC - Gold Canyon, AZ
East Phoenix Arizona Homes

Gotta think about what you are saying exactly -- all the best.

Jun 22, 2010 12:53 PM
Lynn Krogseng
Keller Williams Premier Partners - Vancouver, WA

Mollie, perhaps you are the leading edge of what I hope is the next trend in real estate: retainer fees!  Meanwhile, I explain to people that by working on a commission, I can provide the same excellent service to all my clients. If I were to price what I do more like a flat fee, some people wouldn't be able to afford the service.

Jun 22, 2010 06:18 PM
J. Philip Faranda
Howard Hanna Rand Realty - Yorktown Heights, NY
Associate Broker / Office Manager

Steve, Your website offers to list homes for $429. I don't know how you can say you don't represent sellers. 

http://www.yourhometeamadvisors.com/

Better agents are the ones with the market share, and better agents won't work for peanuts. Even with the amazing technology at seller's disposal, which has decimated other industries almost overnight, alternative models have yet to gain any significant market share. That is because you won't get good listing agents with $429, and the agents you do get won't be able to compete. 

When you do come to New York, I doubt it will be with the tens of millions in venture capital Foxtons and Zip arrived with. I'll take you to lunch, and I'll show you where their closed offices once were. 

Jun 23, 2010 12:19 AM
Bryant Tutas
Tutas Towne Realty, Inc and Garden Views Realty, LLC - Winter Garden, FL
Selling Florida one home at a time

Mollie. I completely disagree with the Inman survey. Folks have been saying this for decades and it has yet to happen. In fact fee for service models are going out of business in my area. It requires a full commission to stay in business with this current market of distressed properties. Of course I'll be retired before 2020 so really con't care about a prediction that's 10 years down the road.

Again I have no issue with this model and completely agree the consumer should have choices. I just disagree that it will ever be mainstream.

Jun 23, 2010 02:05 AM
Mollie Wasserman
Your Move Made Simple - Framingham, MA

You're right Bryant in that folks have been predicting this for years. However, I think it's finally coming little by little, mostly because of technology.

One thing that you should know: fee business does not have to replace your regular commission income. But it's great to have choices to offer to capture business that would never happen if you didn't offer options. What I believe will be mainstream sooner than we think is that consumers will flock to trained consultants who can offer them choices.

Jun 23, 2010 02:16 AM
Steve Cole
Your Home Team Advisors, LLC; 770-649-0060 - Atlanta, GA

Philip,

We only list properties for our buyer clients.  We realize our clients may need to sell something before they can buy. In that case we will list the property for them.  The difference is that we list as a service to our buyers and you list in the hope of getting a client.  At the end of the day we make no profit on those listing.  We are ok with that because we get paid when our clients close on the new property.  This is just one of the many services we provide our clients. 

 

There is not magic to listing property.  All you can do is expose it to the public and put it in its best possible light.  I can't tell you the number of times I have heard traditional agents say "You need to list with me because I specialize in hard to sell homes and I am connected in the relo market" or something like that. None of that is true.   No agent has special super powers that help a property sell.  Most "marketing plans" are developed to get the agent additional business more than sell the property.

 

There really is no comparison between your (the traditional model) and ours.  We offer so much more to the consumer by providing a competent team of experts to advise them.  Your model only provides a real estate agent where as our model provides the real estate agent, attorney, surveyor, structural engineer, title examiner, project manager and more.   Actually in our model the consumer saves money and gets so much more.  There really is no choice.

I look forward to lunch. Maybe we can discuss your future with our firm.

Jun 23, 2010 03:16 AM
Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Burlington, MA
Metro Boston Homes For Sale

Mollie Wasserman - well said - high risk should be paired with high reward!

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