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Alt-A -- What is it, and does it still exist?

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Mortgage and Lending with Century 21 Mortgage

If you ask 5 different mortgage persons what they are, you are likely to get 5 different answers.  However, most will probably be pretty close, just a bit different perspective.  According to investopedia:

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/alt-a.asp

"A classification of mortgages where the risk profile falls between prime and subprime. The borrowers behind these mortgages will typically have clean credit histories, but the mortgage itself will generally have some issues that increase its risk profile. These issues include higher loan-to-value and debt-to-income ratios or inadequate documentation of the borrower's income."

As real estate professionals or consumers using the services of a real estate professional you will be exposed to an onslaught of acronyms.  The Alt-A -- or Alternative A-Paper (also known as prime and conforming) mortgage type is not lacking.  Falling in the middle of the three general categories (oh, don't forget the government categories FHA and VA :), these are famous for their acronyms which bleed over to the Prime and sub-prime arena as well:

SIVA -- Stated Income, Verified Assets -- also known as "Stated"
           Your income is stated, your job (not income) is verified and so are your assets
SISA -- Stated Income, Stated Assets
           Both your income and assets are stated, but not verified, job is verified
NIVA -- No Income, Verified Assets
           No job verification but assets are verified
NINA -- No Income, No Assets
           Neither your job nor your assets are verified (can't understand why this caused a problem in the mortgage market :)
No Ratio -- No Ratio
            Your Debt-To-Income Ratio is not taken into consideration
No Doc-- No Documentation (clever with that one)
            They don't care anything about, job or assets, just credit score

All of the above are credit score driven and were as investopedia said these mortgages were typically given to clients with clean credit histories.

Many, many lenders have temporarily or permanently shut down these type of loan programs and others were put out of business b/c of their use.  We still have a few brave lenders out there willing to fund these loans.  Since the secondary market (where lenders and bank sell these loans and replenish their funds) lost their appetite for these, the rates have begun to climb dramatically.  Only time will tell whether these loans will come back.  I believe they will, but we are not likely to see the near Prime rates that we once had.

The virtues, or lack thereof, of these programs can be discussed 'til the cows come home.  Feel free to comment, but I hope this provides a little introduction as to what these products were/are.

 

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Chris Griffith
Downing-Frye Realty, Bonita Springs, FL - Bonita Springs, FL
Bonita Springs Listing Specialist - Agent
Believe it or not a blog like this is really helpful.  I'll be the first to admit I get confused or forget what they mean. A few of the mortage brokers I know start tossing around the terms and it's too much jargon to remember.  Thanks for th breakdown .
Aug 13, 2007 10:54 PM
Chris Griffith
Downing-Frye Realty, Bonita Springs, FL - Bonita Springs, FL
Bonita Springs Listing Specialist - Agent
Welcome to Active Rain!  I just noticed you're a recent addition.
Aug 13, 2007 10:55 PM
Jennifer Hillegas
Sign Your Deed Realty - Rome, GA
Every Seller Does It!
Great post thanks for explaining that to all the readers and welcome to active rain!
Aug 13, 2007 11:07 PM
Brian Schulman
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage, Lancaster PA - Lancaster, PA
Lancaster County PA RealEstate Expert 717-951-5552
Joe, thanks for the definitions.  As you said, some of these are riskier than others, and it will be some time before they come back.
Aug 13, 2007 11:17 PM
Kris Wales
Keller Williams Realty - Lakeside Market Center - Macomb, MI
Real Estate Blog & Homes for Sale search site, Macomb County MI

Joe, if you don't mind I'm going to save this post for future reference.  It's a bit aggravating to have mortgage reps throw these acronyms out there without an explanation of what they really mean.  I think they forget that unless they are talking to a fellow rep that most of us have a hard time decipering what they mean.  Great post, thanks!

 

Aug 13, 2007 11:26 PM
Chris Griffith
Downing-Frye Realty, Bonita Springs, FL - Bonita Springs, FL
Bonita Springs Listing Specialist - Agent
I'm with you on that one Kris!  Flagged for a feature.
Aug 13, 2007 11:37 PM
Joe Kupiszewski
Century 21 Mortgage - Tallahassee, FL
Thanks for all the comments folks and glad that you all found it useful!  I've found some great insites AND entertainment on the site.  It seems to be an excellent jumping off point and reference for both industry professionals and consumers.
Aug 14, 2007 12:55 AM
Lacey D. Horton
LDH Services - Heath, TX
Certified Signing Agent Texas
Who can get a loan with NINA?  I am confused.  No income, no assets.  Hmmm.  Doesn't sound good. Thanks for information, this is interesting.
Aug 14, 2007 02:43 AM
Joe Kupiszewski
Century 21 Mortgage - Tallahassee, FL
Lacey, Great question.  If you have good credit, there were and are lenders who still offer this product.  The rates and terms on these products are typically not that attractive.  Less than a few months ago, rates would barely be more than .5% to 1.5% more for some of these "alternative" programs when compared with conforming or prime products.  Again, these are riskier loans for the lender to make. 
Aug 14, 2007 04:04 AM
Joe Manausa - Tallahassee, FL
Joe Manausa Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Tallahassee Real Estate
Hey Joe, I can tell by all the comments that this was well received. Thanks for the clarification on definitions. So, can you get me a 4% fixed-rate NINA?
Aug 14, 2007 09:14 PM
Joe Kupiszewski
Century 21 Mortgage - Tallahassee, FL
Too funny.  I'll keep looking for that 4% NINA for you Joe.
Aug 14, 2007 10:14 PM
Joe Manausa - Tallahassee, FL
Joe Manausa Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Tallahassee Real Estate
Joe, I had to come back and see what all the activity was about, nice job. Five Stars.
Aug 15, 2007 09:17 PM
Joe Kupiszewski
Century 21 Mortgage - Tallahassee, FL

Thanks Dave and Joe.  Still getting requests for Alt-A, but oddly enough (or not) most people with credit that could use some help are also the ones looking for 100% financing.  Great, observation Dave - the consumer NEVER expects issues and thinks that 100% financing is a right!  I don't believe they (the consumer) are aware of the details.  They seem to interpret a company going out of business as an excuse to just go to another company.  While this is certainly still possible -- the reasons they went out of business are changing the way companies are willing -- scratch that -- able to lend.  I think the willing/able issue is part another interesting issue. 

As many of you in the profession know, lenders, banks and mortgage brokers do not have an endless supply of money.  Here is a great snapshot of what goes on in the mortgage market:

Show Me the Money 

The secondary market and more particularly the investors have decided that the loans they could not get enough of are more risky and some types of loans (Alt-A and Sub prime) are difficult if not impossible to sell.  Some banks are using their own money to continue, others are dramatically raising rates to get them sold and others just stopped funding/providing these loans to the consumers so the mortgage originators do not have access to them. 

Hope that helps some -- thanks for the questions!

 

Aug 15, 2007 10:33 PM
Joe Manausa - Tallahassee, FL
Joe Manausa Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Tallahassee Real Estate
Great Graphic Joe. Where exactly is the ATM that my wife always seems to find? I looked everywhere on your chart and didn't find it.
Aug 16, 2007 10:43 PM
Missy Caulk
Missy Caulk TEAM - Ann Arbor, MI
Savvy Realtor - Ann Arbor Real Estate
Excellent post, Leah mentioned it in the week in review and I missed it. Good job, it is confusing to use Realtors, so I have book marked it to refer to.
Aug 19, 2007 01:13 PM
Joe Kupiszewski
Century 21 Mortgage - Tallahassee, FL

~Missy~  Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the feedback!  "Week in review" -- is that something official that you found on AR?  I searched it and seems like many folks were offering their own version of week in  review -- can you post a link to it?  Thanks!

Aug 20, 2007 12:48 AM
Armando Rodriguez
QUEST REALTY SERVICES - Orlando, FL
Orlando Homes 4 Sale, Real Estate Broker-GRI

Great stuff...as you point out there are many forms of "Stated"

Thanks for clarifying!

Aug 20, 2007 08:58 AM
Joe Kupiszewski
Century 21 Mortgage - Tallahassee, FL
Thanks Armando, glad you enjoyed!
Aug 21, 2007 01:40 AM