Don't Screw Up Your Loan With Untraceable Deposits

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Real Estate Agent with Lyon Real Estate, Fair Oaks CA (Sacramento Area) DRE# 00809499

Dang! It just happened again! My buyer's daughter transferred $20K into their account, because they're really buying the condo for the daughter with her money. (The daughter has bad credit, but a wad of money, so Mom and Dad are making the purchase for her). 

Loan paper trails can drive you crazyNow we need to show proof of where the money came from - which means copies of the original check, copies of the cashed check, copies of her birth certificate, marriage license, and dog's vaccination.  OK... I jest about the last 3, but DON'T MAKE DEPOSITS WITHOUT SPEAKING TO YOUR LENDER ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES TO YOUR LOAN. Federal guidelines mandate we need a paper trail for every cent of money that goes through your bank account.

Getting these verifications take time... time that can throw a serious wrench into your loan process. So while it may not be a problem getting down payment assistance from elsewhere, the timing of it causes the real problem.

So what do you do, if someone else is giving you money for your down payment?

1. Be sure your lender approves the amount.

2. Provide a gift letter, promising to put up the money as a gift.

3. Get a cashiers check written directly to the title company.

4. Wait until you have loan approval, and have signed your loan documents.

5. THEN deposit your cashier's check directly into the title company. (check with your local customs, as not all states handle title and escrow the way we do here in Fair Oaks). Having the gift money going directly into the title company means only one paper trail... from the gifter to the title coompany.  But if it first goes to the person buying the house, there is an extra layer of paper trail involved, which takes more time.

You do this, and you will avoid a bundle of paperwork that can drive you crazy.  Just make sure you have run this by your lender... then do as they say!

OR... go buy a lottery ticket tonight, then pay cash!

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Sally Dunbar, 35 year Broker Associate, Lyon Real Estate, Fair Oaks, CA (916) 524-1548, SDunbar@GoLyon.com "Your Fair Oaks Realtor"

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Rainer
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Steven B. Harkness
American Capital Corp - Silverdale, WA
360-981-8615-concierge service VA-FHA-USDA

     Hello, everyone, Steve Harkness here, and I have 17 years experience as a Mortgage Lender. This is one of the biggest issues that seem to pop-up at the last minute, and it drives me crazy. I instruct the borrowers up front in great detail about how imperative it is to account for all deposits, especially during these trying times!

          I do a lot of FHA loans here in Kitsap County where the funds to close will come from a family member. I give my borrowers a sheet of paper that shows how to document a money trail for the underwriter. It starts with a gift letter from the parent. Lenders are now even asking for a copy of the parents bank statement to show they have the ability to make the gift. Then they need a copy of the cashiers check from the parents accounts. Then need a copy of the deposit slip showing the cashiers check was deposited in the home buyers account. Then the next bank statement better show the gift funds being deposited. DID YOU ALL GET THAT LAST PART? That means don't wait until the last minute to transfer funds to the purchaser's account because many lenders will not accept a computer print out (to easy to forge).

     Another thing that gives lenders gray hairs are people that have numerous bank accounts and move money around for no valid reason. You can't tell how much money they actually have because the same funds will show on several off their many accounts.

     If you want your loans to close I strongly suggest you partner up with an experienced mortgage broker, or banker that has the ability to broker. The days of having an attitude that all lenders are the same and handing out three business cards are over. This isn't just about rate anymore; it's about who has the knowledge to close your loan. Rules and regulations are changing weekly. In addition, many of the investors that purchase these loans are overlaying their own rules on top of HUD's, VA.s or FNMA & FHLMC. This is why it's so important to work with someone that can broker. He/She can choose the best lender that fits what your borrower has to work with.

Jul 25, 2010 10:21 AM #43
Rainer
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Marshall Brown
Mid America Inspection Services, LLC - Fargo, ND
BSEE, CHI

Great post and comments. My son is getting ready to buy a home and my daughter and son-in-law are helping with the purchase. Now I know to give them some warning about possible pit falls.

Jul 25, 2010 02:43 PM #44
Rainmaker
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Sally Dunbar
Lyon Real Estate, Fair Oaks CA (Sacramento Area) - Fair Oaks, CA
Fair Oaks Realtor - Fair Oaks Homes for Sale

Steven - GREAT comment.  You are so right.  So many buyers just shop rates, unaware of the complicated details involved in actually closing a loan.  USE AN EXPERIEMCED LOAN OFFICER WHO CAN GET  YOUR LOAN CLOSED!

Jul 25, 2010 03:22 PM #45
Rainer
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Nick Pakulla
Nick Pakulla Mortgage Team Maryland, Virginia, District of Columbia - Rockville, MD
Nick Pakulla Mortgage Team, Lender in MD DC VA

Sally - this is a good point, however, I do feel that it is the Loan officer's responsibility for items like this.  Bank statements need to be dated within certain time frames (ie: 45 days from date of application, and usually 90 days from settlement).  However, a good loan officer should know as soon as they see large deposits during a pre-qualification (usually at least 30 days prior to a settlement), that they will need to document them - so this shouldn't really never delay settlement. 

Yes it requires the borrowers to be cooperative and a little bit of patience on their end.  Yes, it is ridiculous especially when you are asking borrowers who make a good money to document a few hundred dollar deposit into a certain account.  But in my opinion the Realtor's should never really feel that they need to control these things.  A good LO should make the job easy on the Realtor!

Jul 26, 2010 01:49 AM #46
Rainer
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Kris Deaton
Shumaker Realty, Inc. - Irmo, SC

Sally, Thanks for the great information.  Good to know.

Jul 26, 2010 02:32 AM #47
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Greg Cook

Sally, more information has come to the front since I made my comment about loan fraud.

Even if they were buying as an investment property, gift funds are not allowed for that type transaction. (Fannie Mae guidelines)

Those who commented that this was the LOs responsibility are right on point. How do you do a pre-approval without verification of funds?

Jul 26, 2010 03:00 AM #48
Rainmaker
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Sally Dunbar
Lyon Real Estate, Fair Oaks CA (Sacramento Area) - Fair Oaks, CA
Fair Oaks Realtor - Fair Oaks Homes for Sale

Nick and Greg - I agree there should have been more guidance from the Loan Officer.  this was someone they chose from out of the blue.  Then she went to France, with another person completing the transaction.  So I imagine the control slipped some.

As agents, there are so many scenarios that come up, it's hard enough to guide buyers through the home-related issues, let alone backing up the issues involved with the loan.  I totally agree, that a good loan officer is critical... one who knows how to get the loan closed.  If you lose your interest rate because of delays caused by inaadequate advise regarding documentation needed, and interest rates rise, you didn't save in the end anyway.

As always.... chose wisely - both your agent and your lender.

Jul 26, 2010 03:09 AM #49
Rainmaker
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Liane Thomas, Top Listing Agent
Professional Realty Services® - Corona, CA
Bringing you Home!

thank you for the timely reminder! I have a list of "do's and dont's for homebuyers".. I think I will add this to the list.

Jul 28, 2010 10:16 AM #50
Rainmaker
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Chrysti Tovani
eXp Realty - Fair Oaks, CA
Sacramento Real Estate Agent

I also agree with Steven's post.  #43.  While rates are great right now, they won't do any good if you can't close the loan and right now investors are putting borrowers under the microscope. 

Great post to put out there for people who are about to purchase a home and a great reminder of one more thing NOT to do.

 

Jul 29, 2010 09:07 PM #51
Rainmaker
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Wayne B. Pruner
Oregon First - Tigard, OR
Tigard Oregon Homes for Sale, Realtor, GRI

This is an informative post with some good comments. Thanks.

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