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FHA Loans Myth - FHA Home Loans are more expensive in New Jersey with 5% down because of mortgage insurance

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Making a statement that FHA loans are more expensive than conventional loans because of the monthly mortgage insurance is a blind statement.  This is like saying that your house is better than your neighbors house. Just to many unknown variables to make this kind of determination.

Here is what a realtor on Trulia stated the other day....

"While an FHA loan has many benefits, the downside(aside from some hefty mortgage insurance) is meeting the guidelines.  If you can put 5% down, there is a conventional lender that can do the loan(and the Mortgage insurance is actually lower)."

Two major issues with that whole statement. There are to many factors when determining mortgage insurance for conventional loans and conventional loans are black and white. If the AUS (automated underwriting system) says no, then it's no. At least with FHA loans, you can manually underwrite them.

 

 

The basics with FHA monthly mortgage insurance (MMI) : (this could possibly change in the near future)

  • LTV(loan-to-value) > 95% = .55 basis points  Ex. $200,000 loan amount, the MMI would be $91.67/month
  • LTV(loan-to-value) = or

 

** Keep in mind, the credit score is irrelevant, and does not affect the monthly percentages for FHA loans.**

 

 

The basics with conventional monthly mortgage insurance :

  • LTV > 90.01% to 95.00% = .78 basis points (best case scenario and will explain below) On a $200,000 loan, the monthly mortgage insurance would be $130.00/month

Now, keep in mind, I said best case. Mortgage insurance for conventional loans have changed drastically in the last 2 years. The mortgage insurance companies have added new guidelines based on LTV, credit scores, and if the property is in a declining market. If in a declining market, you would need credit scores above 740 just to be able to put 5% down. The other issue is the credit scores. The lower the scores, the higher the percentage of the mortgage insurance. Some even have cut offs that are higher than the normal cut off of 620 that most lenders have.  In regards to FHA loans, it doesn't matter if you have a 620 or a 700, when it comes to the monthly mortgage insurance.

 

Another issue is the mortgage interest rates when comparing FHA loans to conventional loans.

Most lenders only have a slight penalty for FHA mortgages with credit scores of 620-640. This pricing hit is normally a quarter point. On $200,000, that is $500.

On a conventional loan with 5% down, these pricing hits can be as high as 2.75 extra points with credit scores ranging from 620-639.  On $200,000, that is $5,500. Even with a credit score of 719, the pricing hit is a half point.

 

 

Summary : There are some many ways to look at this, hence why it's imperative not to really listen to anyone but a loan officer.  But most of all, you want to listen to a very qualified loan officer that knows how to dissect all of this information properly.

Yes, some will argue still that I forgot about the upfront mortgage insurance on FHA loans in New Jersey and that is another reason why FHA mortgages are more expensive. Well, I have proven that wrong with this post by comparing both a FHA loan vs a conventional loan with 5% down and by using an above credit score of 679. I am including both the upfront mortgage insurance and the monthly insurance.  Please read :

FHA Loans vs Conventional Loans - Why FHA home loans in New Jersey can be better with 5% down

As shown in this example, you are still saving $200 a month with the FHA loan. The proof is in the pudding.

 

 

Important Note : When doing a conventional loan with mortgage insurance, you have a a seperate underwriter from the MI company that needs to underwrite the loan also. On FHA mortgages, you just have one underwriter for the whole file.

 

 

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Don Sabinske
Don Sabinske, Sabinske & Associates Inc. - Zimmerman, MN
Sabinske & Associates Inc.

You make it so understandable for the common client.  I've bookmarked this because it IS SO IMPORTANT for buyers to understand that they shouldn't listen to Uncle Fred.  And, making it clear that the only person to determine what the process is, is a QUALIFIED loan officer (again, not Uncle Fred, likely).  Thanks. 

Jul 27, 2010 01:08 PM
Endre Barath, Jr.
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties - Beverly Hills, CA
Realtor - Los Angeles Home Sales 310.486.1002

Jeff, did you address your point with the Trulia Agent? I hope so, there is soo much bad information out there, I think those of us in the know owe it to the uneducated or the non-knowledgable ones to correct the misinformation.

Jul 27, 2010 02:37 PM
Jeff Belonger
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DON... . I think it's extremely important for buyers to understand this, especially when realtors and even loan officers are giving out very misleading info.   And thank you very much for the kind words and for the support as of lately.. Again, thanks.

 

ENDRE... .   yes I did.. right there in the forum. He never came back to say anything or to back it up.  But another loan officer did come into the mix and said this...

"I have to agree with Jeff. I have no idea where you are getting your information, however even with adding the up-front MIP, the payment comes out less with MIP than with PMI, especially at 95%."

Not sure if you saw this post yesterday, but I did put a group together called the Mortgage Myth Busters. Welcome to the Mortgage Myth Busters... - Many of us are determined to put the correct information out there. Not saying that we know it all, but making sure that mortgage myths are busted and that people have a place to ask a question to get the right info... thanks

 

Jul 27, 2010 03:59 PM
Margaret Woda
Long & Foster Real Estate, Inc. - Crofton, MD
Maryland Real Estate & Military Relocation

In the old days, before we all used computers, I did comparisons of various loan types on a yellow pad.  I think my clients liked to see the actual calculations and not have to rely on someone telling them what's best for them.  They could ask questions while I was working things out, and we could re-calculate using different scenarios. The results often surprised me because they turned out to be different than anticipated.  FHA was often the winner in those comparisons. 

Excellent post, as always, Jeff.

Jul 28, 2010 04:23 AM
Robert Rauf
CMG Home Loans - Toms River, NJ

This is a blog I would have written myself if I saw that article.  FHA is often MUCH cheaper even if the credit score is higher.  If the score is below 700 you may not even be able to get PMI depending on the MI companies mood that day, and Fannie will hit you with a big rate bump to boot. 

Most agents and borrowers do not understand LLPA's and how we have to factor that into the equation, often paying FHA's MIP is less expensive than the add on you recieive on a conventional loans rate for a higher LTV lower credit score loan.

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