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I AM NOT A VULTURE !

By
Services for Real Estate Pros with Everglades Equity Inc

I posted thiis as a reply/comment to a discussion going on about investors.  Well they used the term flippers, which I don't like at all.  The general feeling seems to be that an investor is ok if he fixes up a house before he resells it, and that if an investor buys a house and sells it for a profit without fixing it up he was a vulture. That it was unconscionable for anyone to make a profit without first fixing up the house.

I'm an investor and I am not a vulture.  Here's my comment:

I have to weigh in here. I am an investor. My partner is an even bigger investor. We make offers to purchase homes in short sale.

Sometimes the houses are in great condition and sometimes they need a little work. But the one thing they all have in common is that they all have a very poor financial condition. It is that financial condition that we aim to stabilize, not necessariy the physical condition of the house.

We make offers on short sales. Without our offer, most banks won't even begin the negotiations. It is our offer that helps get the seller out from under his overencumbered house. It's the first step.

Some of these homes we have bought are totally beautiful, but have been on the market for 794 or 440 days. Would the agents above who criticize investors as being sleazy and vultures rather have their clients sit through another 300 days of uncertainty?

We make offers to purchase and we even provide the short sale negotiation at no cost to the agent or seller. When we get an acceptance from the bank we close and take title. We wait whatever time that lender wants us to wait, and then we find an end buyer and close with them

Sometimes our profit is as little as 7.5%. Occasionally it is as much as 20%. We work for it. We improve the financial condition of the home and allow the owner to move on.

What about this is not honorable? The seller isn't going to make anything on the sale of the house in short sale anyway. Why shouldn't we profit? The agents get paid.

Are we hurting the bank? No. They'll get every penny they want from an investor's offer and a deficiency judgment. It's the lender who is unconscionable!

If we could give the seller anything, we probably would, but we can't. By the way, we won't even do a deal with a lender who won't sign our waiver of deficiency judgment.

How does that make us vultures? Do you think your doctor is a vulture because he makes money from sick people? I don't understand this problem agents have with investors. OK, I've met my share of fly by nght so-called investors who place an option on a house and never take title to it. But to lump us all into the same package is unreasonable.

Evelyn Johnston
Friends & Neighbors Real Estate - Elkhart, IN
The People You Know, Like and Trust!

Whoa! I can tell from the tone of your post that you were highly offended.  I did not see the post you referenced in the beginning of yours but someone really stomped on your parade!

I believe everyone has the right to make money.  If I can get a product, whether it is a home or a loaf of bread at a lesser price, it is my right to offer on it, just as it is yours.

I deal in short sales and would never consider another person to negotiate an offer for my cleints, the home owners.  As the investor that wanted to buy the property it seems to me like you would be in a conflict of interest position.  Just my way of thinking...but, you still have the right to buy a property and make money by reselling...

Aug 14, 2010 01:36 PM
Faina Reinhardt
HotRentalsNY.com - Manhattan, NY

There is absolutely nothing wrong with seeing an opportunity and capitalizing on it.  No one is hurt.  You didn't cause the seller's financial predicament.

Aug 14, 2010 02:13 PM
Karen Feltman
Cedar Rapids/Iowa City, IA KW Legacy Group - Cedar Rapids, IA
Relocation Specialist in Cedar Rapids, Iowa

I think that there are honorable investors out there that are a valuable part of the market recovery.  Whether you need to make physical improvements to the property or not, you should not be judged by your ability to resell to a ready and willing buyer at the true market value.  Good luck to you!

Keep smiling,

Karen

Aug 14, 2010 02:25 PM
Randy Ostrander
Lake and Lodge Realty LLC - Big Rapids, MI
Real Estate Broker, Serving Big Rapids and West Central MI

Most of those will be angered are more angry because they didn't make the money. If it is a legal transaction more power to you.

Aug 14, 2010 02:27 PM