I think that referring someone should not mean you should receive a kick back. I think that what I want is the best for my customer in getting good service. If they take someone I refer to them I can keep a close eye on the transaction and advise that the person they are using is giving them the best service at the best price. If that is what they are doing.
Jay:
Very good post. RESPA's main existence revolves around kickbacks. When I first studied this many years ago, I found it interesting that "kickbacks" is the exact word that is used in RESPA.
You are right. The gift card can be a kickback. Anything of "significant value." I don't know what C.E. instructor single handedly started the false $25.00 rule. It doesn't exist in RESPA. "Significant value" is ambiguous for a reason. Don't Do it!
We cannot have enough posts on this topic.
Good info, and info that many were probably not aware of. What seems to work the best for me is a marketing relationship.
Thank you all for your comments:
Edson- Thank you for commenting; I agree with you. We are all in this business together and get paid handsomely if we do a good job.
Gita- I appreciate your time to comment. Your response is sound textbook business. If I have done business with a particular agent that is ethical and does a superior job, I have no problem letting my client know that. In this rapidly changing market having a a team of people that you work well with can help the customer experience.
Bill- Thank you. Good to hear from you again too. The rumor on the island that anything $50 or less is fair game. However after a little research it appears that anything of "significant value" is the key term. I know that its to protect the consumer, but if some one give me sound advice in life I like to thank them with something of significant value to let them know that I am grateful. In business I must show my gratitude through the quality of my communication, ethics and a job well done.
Seth- Thanks. I agree. There is significant value in co-marketing with business partners; it's great way to split costs for both parties. Aloha
I appreciate your comments Jay!! I work in Title & Escrow, so you know we have not only RESPA to adhere to, the OIC as well.
I have some Lenders in my area who think that RESPA does not apply to them and have made such comments in a crowd of peers. This lender also slams the Title companies for not sponsoring holes at Golf Tournaments, donating auction items to Realtor functions, not sponsoring open houses, ect. This Lender has gone as far as to say "I would like to donate to RPAC(Realtor's Political Action Committee) in the names of Realtor's who send me referrals." I said in this meeting "I wouldn't do that if I were you" Then quoting the RESPA referrals and kickbacks. She told me oh quit being so political.
I wish there was a way to educate Realor's on this subject. Many people in my area think it is only a title company issue. I guess until someone local is called out on the carpet (like title companies have been)then they will shape up.
Thanks
Nancy
Good post, but remember you can not legislate ethical behavior. RESPA exists to keep us all on a level playing field. A referral with compensation should be more than an"Arms Lenght" away. In other words the parties in the referral should not be parties to the transaction.
By the way Nancy, Title and Escrow agents do the same..offer $$$, bling, gift cards all as incentives to refer more business to them.
"By the way Nancy, Title and Escrow agents do the same..offer $$$, bling, gift cards all as incentives to refer more business to them.'
08/23/2007 | by Paul Moye, Broker, ABR, GRI, e-PRO |
Not all Title and Escrow agents do this! You may wish to reconsider who is handling your title and escrow transactions in the future. This casual attitude regarding incentives must be corrected. Sales agents/brokers have no problem recieving a referral fee simply by passing a "name" to a fellow agent/broker. When no work has been performed, this referral fee has been unearned in my opinion. Unfortunately this is still allowed within the realtor community. A level playing field must be established and enforced. Assuming that this behavior is acceptable because alot of businesses are doing it does not solve the problem. I would like to see referral fees/incentatives/kickbacks eliminated across the board for EVERYONE in the real estate industry. Unfortunately, there are companies/individuals that see the potential profit exceed the possible risks/penalties. Business as usual for them, until they get caught. And they will, it appears.
Good point, Lee. Not ALL title and escrow companies offer gifts for business, mine being one of them. The expectation from many of the Realtors for free loot is still there, regardless of how much we advise of our regulations by the OIC. I don't expect that anything will change that mindset other than the recipients being fined for accepting gifts from Lenders AND title companies.
I was at a Golf Tournament recently and witnessed a title company paying for 2 Producers golfing fees at $60 a pop. This was not done by some naive sales rep but by the owner of the company who happens to be an Attorney. They know better, but they do it anyway.
Lee & Nancy - Thank you for your attention to this matter. It is an ongoing issue that may never be obeyed, On the other hand, regulators may crack down on some unexpectant violators.
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