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A Wells Fargo FHA Short Sale in Sacramento Was a Real Nail Biter

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Real Estate Agent with Elizabeth Anne Weintraub, Broker DRE #00697006

wells fargo short saleThere are short sale agents back East like Chris Ann Cleland who love to work with Wells Fargo on a short sale. But, here, in Sacramento, those short sales are typically a struggle. Doesn't mean I don't list them and sell them, though, because as a Sacramento short sale agent, I'm not in the practice of boycotting lenders. You work with what you get. But, still. Wells Fargo, spittooey.

When it's a Wells Fargo FHA loan, it can be even worse. Because FHA wants to set the list price, just like a regular HAFA short sale but it's not HAFA. I first listed this home in February at $189,000. We received several offers and accepted an offer of $200,000. It took Wells Fargo 30 days to close out the loan modification file and assign a negotiator. By the third week in April, we had a counter offer and a demand from Wells to change the price to $211,500.

The buyer flipped out and canceled, despite my assurances that I could make Wells Fargo understand the home should sell at our offer price of $200,000. So, this home went back on the market in early May at Wells Fargo's list price of $211,500. Because we were stuck with an overpriced home on the market, it took another 30 days to sell this in what was, due to the first-time home buyer tax credit, one of the hottest real estate markets of recent memory.

We received another offer for, you guessed it, $200,000. This was June 4th. I sent the comparable sales to Wells Fargo to justify this price, and the short sale process started over. We were a little bit ahead of the game since the BPO was still valid, but it took Wells Fargo another 7 weeks to process this file. Finally, on July 22nd, Wells Fargo promised we would have the short sale approval letter within 24 hours. But on July 23rd, a fire broke out in Milwaukee, so Wells Fargo sent everybody home.

On July 26th, we received the approval letter at $200,000, stipulating a closing date of August 20th, not quite 30 days. The real nail-biting session began when the title company sent the final HUD to Wells Fargo for approval. The days ticked by and no such approval arrived. We called and called and called. Then, the day before closing, the negotiator emailed title to say a closing fee needed to be moved from the HUD and placed on line 1101, but title could not comply because it would violate HUD regulations.

We then exchanged several emails explaining the new Good Faith Estimate requirements to Wells Fargo. Still, no approval. Yesterday was the deadline. The lender funded. Title was ready to release docs for recording but Wells Fargo would not approve the HUD unless title moved the closing fee. The negotiator left for vacation. The clock ticked. By 1:00 p.m, we had escalated the file to a supervisor. It went to management review. We needed the approval by 2:30 to record.

The title company literally grabbed the minute hand on the clock and turned it backward. At 2:40, the HUD approval arrived, docs were released and we recorded, with permission to wire funds to Wells Fargo on Monday. You know, I'm lucky that I have any finger nails left at all after this.

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Elizabeth Weintraub is co-partner of Weintraub & Wallace Team of Top Producing Realtors, an author, home buying expert at The Balance, a Land Park resident, and a veteran real estate agent who specializes in older, classic homes in Land Park, Curtis Park, Midtown, Carmichael and East Sacramento, as well as tract homes in Elk Grove, Natomas, Roseville and Lincoln. Call Elizabeth Weintraub at 916.233.6759. Put our combined 80 years of real estate experience to work for you. Broker-Associate at RE/MAX Gold. DRE License # 00697006.

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Comments(12)

Dave Halpern
Dave Halpern Real Estate Agent, Inc., Louisville, KY (502) 664-7827 - Louisville, KY
Louisville Short Sale Expert

Elizabeth,

If this wasn't so sad it would be funny. The only thing we can do is continue to help homeowners and help the banks in spite of their inefficiencies.

Aug 21, 2010 03:52 AM
Cynthia Larsen
Cotati, CA
Independent Broker In Sonoma County, CA

Why, why, why are we having to explain the GFE/HUD-1 to the banks? Sounds like you are due for a relaxing weekend!

Aug 21, 2010 04:55 AM
Mary Douglas
United Country Ponderosa Realty, Red Feather Lakes, Colorado - Red Feather Lakes, CO
REALTOR, Red Feather Lakes, Colorado


Sounds like a real nail biter Elizabeth and I agree with Cynthia- why in the world would you have to be explaining the HUD-1 to a bank?!  Congratulations on getting another one closed!

Aug 21, 2010 06:31 AM
Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville

It's all just kind of crazy out there.  Happy you got another one closed, now go get yourself a manicure :)

Aug 21, 2010 06:55 AM
Doug Anderson
Tucker Associates Real Estate Services - Danville, CA
Bay Area Real Estate Views

Congratulations Elizabeth.  What a market!  Although a "nail biter" you got it done. ~ Doug

Aug 21, 2010 02:44 PM
Marcy Moyer
eXp Realty of California Silicon Valley Probate, Trust, and Investment Sales - Mountain View, CA
Probate, Trust, and Investment Specialist

I had a similar HUD problem on my last short sale. I think the negotiaotrs are just not trained enough on the new HUD1 statements.

Aug 21, 2010 04:01 PM
Steve Shatsky
Dallas, TX

Hi Elizabeth... Some of the most frustrating transactions I have ever been involved with were WF Short Sales.  Not a big fan here either. 

Aug 21, 2010 06:14 PM
Melissa Zavala
Broadpoint Properties - Escondido, CA
Broker, Escondido Real Estate, San Diego County

Elizabeth: This is a perfect day for me to visit your blog again. I have recently been having lots of trouble with Wells Fargo--two with non-responsive negotiators, one where the processor requested some documents on a Saturday and then closed the file on Monday when she had not received them, and two with BPOs that were way higher than value. Tomorrow is my Wells Fargo day and I am not looking forward to dealing with the escalations. (Just venting. I'm thrilled to know that I am not the only one.)

Aug 22, 2010 03:09 AM
Elizabeth Weintraub Sacramento Broker
Elizabeth Anne Weintraub, Broker - Sacramento, CA
Put 40 years of experience to work for you

Hey you guys, I do not know why why why we have to explain HUDs to the banks but we do. There is more confusion over the "credit" to the buyer than anything, and the new regulations are supposed to simplify. Ha.

Aug 22, 2010 03:48 AM
Jeanean Gendron
The Address Realty - Redding, CA
Specializing in Selling Unique Properties

Elizabeth,

spittooey? So love it...you always make me LOL! I think I'm too tired to do this any more. It finally wears you down after 3 years of it. I'm glad you still have the energy for it. I love "spittooey"....great word! You are so funny and at the same time a good writer. It's always fun to come over for "the read"!

Aug 22, 2010 10:42 PM
Shannon Thomas
Selling Indy Metro, LLC - Avon, IN
Managing Broker, E-Pro, ABR,SRS, SFR

Love Spittooey!    Great word for a short sale night mare!

Sep 15, 2010 02:44 AM
Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Coldwell Banker Realty

This just in from Wells Fargo: No more extensions on approval letters - close by the approval date - or don't close at all!

Sep 15, 2010 12:20 PM