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Short Sale Flip Volume 3: The Google Search

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Real Estate Agent with Long and Foster Real Estate VA License # 0225089470

If are just going this series, following what happened to one of my Buyers when he entered into a Contract with an Undisclosed Short Sale Flip, here are the links to the previous posts to get you up to speed.

Short Sale Flip Volume 1:  The Snowstorm

Short Sale Flip Volume 2:  The First Red Flag

So without further interruption, let's dive back into the twisted tale of this Undisclosed Short Sale Flip.

THE GOOGLE SEARCH

After being informed by a trusted settlement agent (Scott) that my Buyer was involved in anything but a regular sale, I couldn't sleep.  I was totally on edge.  I couldn't figure out why a woman (Trustee Lorraine), unrelated and otherwise uninterested in the Property, would have the upside down in his mortgage Owner (Mehdi Mohammed) sign over title to her in a trust.  What was the point?  Why not just buy the house herself and THEN, when she owned it free and clear, hire her agent (Jane) to help her sell it.  This level of complication was frying my brain.  And clearly, since foreclosure proceedings had begun, Mr. Mohammed was missing mortgage payments. 

I had done my due diligence upon first learning of the situation in contacting my Broker, and between us, speaking with company attorneys and trusted Settlement Attorneys.  The Settlement Attorney and company attorneys agreed that this suspected same day Short Sale Flip was legal provided that 1) Lorraine, in her purchase from the mortgage company, used her own funds, and that 2) the release of the mortgage lien that was paid short was recorded PRIOR to my Buyer buying.  Not doing the first would raise issues with the Wet Settlement Act and settling before the release of the lien was recorded would raise make title uninsurable for the Buyer.  So we communicated once again with Jane, the Listing Agent, and were told that by the time this was sold to Vince, that it would be a regular sale.  Still, something felt off.  So when I couldn't sleep a couple nights after learning of the investment flip, I pulled my notebook computer onto my lap and Googled away.  I searched for the Trustee, Lorraine. 

Let me say, if you are planning to do something that is illegal, it is probably a bad idea to film yourself bragging about how much money you make doing said illegal acts and posting them on the Internet.  There Lorraine was in all her glory describing the situation that lived in my worst fears.  "I've made millions buying and selling real estate without using a dime of my own money."  That last phrase really stuck with me because THAT was the violation of Virginia's Wet Settlement Act.  Seems Lorraine planned on using Vince's money to pay for her purchase, which in Virginia is completely and utterly illegal.  And if she were going to do that, she would fight Vince's wish to use Best Title, as that company would not allow her to violate the Wet Settlement Act.  She'd have to buy the house she planned to sell first.

All I got from Jane was denial after denial about this being a short sale flip. And when I finally brought the Google search I did to Jane's attention, the next thing I knew, I was ambushed by a conference call with Jane's Broker, Jane and Lorraine.  Lorraine was as smarmy as you would imagine.  She used the frequent repetition of my name to try to win me over.  The crux of the call was this.  WSCE, Lorraine's title company, didn't know how to do a split settlement and if Vince wanted the house he would have to settle with WSCE.  When I told her Best Title could walk them through it, it was then a matter of privacy issues with the family trust that could not be made public.  It was at this point I took great joy in explaining that the title transfer to the Trust was public record and we knew it all.  I also told her I knew what she was doing and that, no one cared how much money she was making on the flip, but two things needed to happen.  1)  She had to use her own funds to pay for the property first.  2) Best Title at the very least needed the Short Sale Approval letter if the sales were happening the same day.  They needed to be sure that no clouds were put on the title, restricting immediate transfer.  This was the only way the title insurance underwriter's would insure the title.

Lorraine assured me that all of this was perfectly legal, and laughed that I had been the only Buyer's Agent to "figure out" what she was doing.  She found it hysterical which got under my skin.  She reveled in the naivety of my fellow Realtors®.  Apparently she had a Short Sale contract for $240,000 on the Property, against the $380,000 owed.  She stood to make $45,000 before paying the agents and settlement fees when she flipped it to Vince for $285,000.  She also made a point of telling me that she was a millionaire and would never think to use Vince's money for the purchase of her real estate.  Oddly enough, further title searches indicated Lorraine's own home was in the beginnings of foreclosure (yes, a millionaire in foreclosure.)  However she had an alias that the title examiner uncovered so I don't think any of us would  be shocked to see her alias pick up the property pre-foreclosure.  Talk about a dirt bag!

Not as annoying, was Jane's Broker saying there was no disclosure needed when an investor bought a Short Sale the same day they sold it.  I'd not talked to anyone of any authority who felt that was true.  I bet the mortgage company would love to know that Lorraine was pocketing $45,000 in a simple exchange of real estate when they were taking it in the pants over the already large loss from the original loan.  This disclosure thing was also sticking in my gut.

Unfortunately, as our new Settlement Date in mid-March loomed ever closer we found Lorraine needed more time to get her "payoff letter."  Through it all, she and Jane refused to call it a Short Sale Approval Letter.  We extended settlement to April 3rdand learned that Best Title wasn't going to be able to insure title after all with just the Short Sale Approval Letter.  If Vince wanted the house he had to use WSCE.  It was time to call for reinforcements.  As Vince said, "If they are screwing around and doing this illegally, they picked the wrong buyer to f*** with."

 Next up, Short Sale Flip Volume 4:  Speaking with the Authorities.

Comments(20)

Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

So how did you make out?

Aug 30, 2010 12:43 PM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Scott:  Stop by tomorrow and read more.  It's a series.  The transaction never closed, though we did get to the settlement table.  Just too many juicy details to not share in the various posts.

Aug 30, 2010 12:47 PM
Ginny Gorman
RI Real Estate Services ~ 401-529-7849~ RI Waterfront Real Estate - North Kingstown, RI
Homes for Sale in Southern RI and beyond

chris...this is very intriguing & what a pain in the butt to deal with these offenders...look forward to tomorrow...have not had any this low to go!

Aug 30, 2010 01:10 PM
Stella Barbour
NoVa Brokers LLC - Vienna, VA
Principal Broker, Serving Virginia and Maryland

I actually had similar situation happen and I turned them in to proper authorities.  I am so sick of all the fraud in our business.  It will never end.

Aug 30, 2010 01:21 PM
Cindy Jones
Integrity Real Estate Group - Woodbridge, VA
Pentagon, Fort Belvoir & Quantico Real Estate News

Once exposed you would think that everyone might have considered coming clean.  But if you are already in as deep as Lorriane greed overtakes common sense.

Aug 30, 2010 01:24 PM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Ginny:  This was my first experience with it, but not my last.  Luckily, I can now spot the offenders really early in the game.

 

Aug 30, 2010 02:02 PM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Stella:  Then you will love tomorrow's installment when the authorities are notified.

Aug 30, 2010 02:03 PM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Cindy:  Apparently so. 

Aug 30, 2010 02:03 PM
Susan Haughton
Long and Foster REALTORS (703) 470-4545 - Alexandria, VA
Susan & Mindy Team...Honesty. Integrity. Results.

Well, Vince sounds like my kind of client!  LOL  This is raising my blood pressure, though...

Aug 30, 2010 02:37 PM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Susan:  Vince was a great client.   I really enjoyed working with him.  Any other client in this situation would not have taken it to the mat like he did.  I was very proud to be representing hime.

Aug 30, 2010 02:42 PM
Michelle Gibson
Hansen Real Estate Group Inc. - Wellington, FL
REALTOR

Chris Ann - I really thought this was going to be cut and dry, but their is definitely a tangled web here.  Can't wait to read volume 4.

Aug 30, 2010 03:04 PM
Anne Clark
Metro Referrals - Gainesville, VA

Oh what a tangled web we weave...can't believe this trustee woman had the nerve to get on the phone and justify using her settlement company with such flimsy excuses.

Aug 30, 2010 03:08 PM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Michelle:  Tangled indeed.  I think I honestly suffered post traumatic stress from this transaction.

Aug 30, 2010 03:43 PM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Anne:  Lorraine was a piece of work.  It was unimaginable to me that her Listing Agent and the Listing Agent's Broker bought this stuff.

Aug 30, 2010 03:44 PM
Pat Fenn
Marketing Specialist for CJ Realty Group/Cindy Jones Broker - Springfield, VA

This seller certainly has nerve.  A YouTube video on how to do an illegal flip?  Really does she think that won't come back to haunt her?

Aug 30, 2010 03:44 PM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Pat:  It takes some nerve.  Then again, the disciples of these fly-by-night real estate investment gurus honestly believe they are doing nothing wrong.

Aug 30, 2010 03:48 PM
Myrl Jeffcoat
Sacramento, CA
Greater Sacramento Realtor - Retired

Chris - You have documented this situation so very well.  There will always be those out there that skirt the laws and ethics to carve themselves a nitch at the expense of others.  It is not only the banks that take it in the pants when this occurs, it's you, me, and every taxpayer that has helped pay for the bailouts.  I think it's wonderful that you have presented it here in your blog.

Aug 30, 2010 04:49 PM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Myrl:  It really took me months to calm down after this situation.  I was livid that there are real estate investment guru's that preach this way of doing business and have people out there gobbling it up.

Aug 31, 2010 03:18 AM
Jackie Connelly-Fornuff
Douglas Elliman Real Estate in Babylon NY - Babylon, NY
"Moving at The Speed of YOU!"

I think you know the choice words I would have had for everyone! This is too unreal and you can't make this crap up!

Sep 01, 2010 01:32 PM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Jackie:  It's truly sad that the Listing Agent kept intentionally sticking her head in the sand.  It's almost like she knew she would want deniability.  But in the face of this much evidence...please!

Sep 02, 2010 03:30 AM