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In Today's Market, are Real Estate Agents Truly Qualified to Answer the Question "What's it Worth?"

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Wayzata Lakes Realty: Eric Kodner Sells Twin Cities Homes

I'm not trying to split hairs, but I have a problem with the agent who authors a newspaper column in the community where one of my offices is located, based on the premise that he is best qualified to counsel area property owners about what their home is "worth".

Professing to know the answer to "What's it worth?" in a particular community may make a great headline for a newspaper column, but it could be considered puffery.  Once you have made the blanket suggestion to readers that you are some sort of clairvoyant expert on what property in the community is worth, you may be called upon to prove your claim. 

Real estate professionals research and assemble a CMA (Comparative Market Analysis) before we tell a seller what we believe their property will bring on the market.  That Market Analysis takes into account recent sales, pending sales and also comparable properties currently on the market.  The same Market Analysis tells us what likely price a seller may reasonably expect to receive.  Without having first prepared a CMA on a property, what have you got to base your opinions on? 

Do a Market Analysis on a property first and then you can begin to tell a seller you have the answer to the question "What's it worth?" 

Better yet, bring a buyer to the table at 100% of the listed price, or even close to full price.  SELL SOMETHING! Close a few transactions at close to list pricee and I'll be far more inclined to recognize your professed expertise. 

  • Remember, even a Market Analysis is a moving target.  It's a snapshot estimate of current value and it's only good for a limited period of time.
  • Even a Market Analysis is not "What it's worth".  A Market Analysis is a guideline, not a guarantee.

 

Determining present value is pretty difficult in a community (like ours) where there is a dearth of recent comparable sales.  Without comparable sales on record, there's little likelihood that the property will actually appraise high enough to qualify for a mortgage.  And if even a local appraiser is reluctant to come up with a value figure without recent comp sales to support it, what qualifies a real estate salesperson to boldly imply in print that he or she has the answer to the question "What's it worth?"  

If an agent's own listings are sitting idly on the market, what qualifies that individual as an authority on what things are worth in the community?

NO COMPS = NO WAY THE PROPERTY WILL APPRAISE = NO MORTGAGE = NO CLOSED SALE

And so the cycle continues.  If we can't make home sales, we wind up with..you guessed it, NO COMPS.  That takes us back to square one.

We have more than our share of overpriced listings in the north country.  Some of our sellers deserve to be told what they NEED to hear instead of what they WANT to hear about their home's value.

Right now, there are half a dozen Lake Superior waterfront homes for sale in our area, all priced in the fairly narrow price range between $525,000 and $650,000.  I'd refer to this as a bubble, but maybe it would more accurately be called a logjam.  NOT ALL OF THESE LISTINGS ARE OVERPRICED, but some are.

And so far this season, nothing is moving in that price bracket.  If we reach the end of the year without any movement in this price bracket, listing agents will be left with plenty of disillusioned clients and loads of unsold inventory.  How does that serve these sellers?

It takes courage, patience and logic to deliver the message that a seller's home is overpriced. You also need to know your market.

So what's a seller's property really worth?

- Let's just say that a property will sell for what a capable and qualified buyer will be willing (and able) to pay for it.  Being able to pay that price may just mean having the ability to obtain a mortgage loan in order to buy.  There are more factors involved in determining what a property is actually worth than most sellers (and some agents) may realize.

- Let's begin to understand that some list prices in some areas may need to come down further in order for home sales to get moving again.

- Let's counsel our sellers that mortgage lending will likely have to improve before we see liquidity in housing in our area.  Not all sellers can afford to sell under a land contract.  Not all buyers can afford to pay cash.  And how many buyers have half a million in cash burning a hole in their pocket?

- Let's tell sellers that we would be glad to do a Market Analysis of their property and we will base our value opinions on that analysis.  Until we have that Market Analysis in hand, we don't have an accurate picture of the market that entitles us to declare what a property is worth, do we?

- Let's remind sellers that our area real estate market is affected by what's going on in the real world.  Your property may be located on an Island, but that Island is still part of the United States, still part of the State of Wisconsin.  The same market forces we see across the nation and the same resulting effects on appraisals and mortgages will continue to impact upon prices and values in this community.

 

A FINAL NOTE ON THE SUBJECT - When one of our area agents can demonstrate a pattern of repeatedly procuring buyers and closing sales over 95% of list price (or even closed sales in excess of 90% of a property's list price), then I will begin to believe that person is an authority on what property is "worth" in our community.  Until that happens, I remain skeptical.

 

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Contact Broker Eric Kodner with Wayzata Lakes Realty about Minneapolis & Saint Paul area properties, including Lake Minnetonka, Edina and the Minneapolis City Lakes area (Lake Calhoun, Lake of the Isles, Lake Harriet). We also sell on the Saint Croix River and on Lake Superior, including Bayfield, Wisconsin and Madeline Island homes.  With sixteen years experience marketing and selling waterfront properties in Minnesota and Wisconsin, we know Lake Minnetonka and Madeline Island real estate.

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Comments(10)

Li Read
Sea to Sky Premier Properties (Salt Spring) - Salt Spring Island, BC
Caring expertise...knowledge for you!

Terrrific post, Eric, and your comments can be applied to any secondary home/discretionary area, in any region...this is not a U.S. issue, at all.    It's about areas that involve a discretionary purchase, and globally.    This should be a featured post!    Well said, indeed....

Sep 25, 2010 06:09 AM
Andrew Mooers | 207.532.6573
MOOERS REALTY - Houlton, ME
Northern Maine Real Estate-Aroostook County Broker

The value is an opinion. A doctor that says you need a back operation could lead to another doctor say no no, you should be doing this stretch, this squat and lose 50 pounds, and did you realize one of your legs is a 1/4 inch longer..you are out of alighnment? Same with real estate. But the gut backed up with comps, a consideration of the seller's expectation, motivation, time frame and pressure plus along the way adjustments when more supply of just like its increase or descrease. You can not automate the process. If you the broker, agent do not know at any given time the value of a new listing, without a day and a half analysis something is wrong.

Sep 25, 2010 06:09 AM
Gabrielle Nemes
RE/MAX Realty South - Tumwater, WA
206.300.8421, S King & Pierce County RE Advocate

Eric, I certainly agree that it takes a close look at each house individually when answering a "What's it worth?" question, but some assumptions can be made by merely looking at statistics for an overall area. For example, if I can clearly see that prices are sitting at approximately a 2005 level, there's an assumption that can be made that your house is going to fall at about a 2005 price point.

But that's why we're agents -- to analyze a particular house in a particular neighborhood and make a knowledgeable judgment on what price it will take to sell a house. And, daggone it ... there ARE some price points that are just stagnant right now! ... althought the adage certainly is "price it right and the buyers will come."

Sep 25, 2010 06:18 AM
Steve Davis
Davis Coastal Properties - Carlsbad, CA
Carlsbad CA

The Market - the buyers - tell us what a home is worth. Always. But what if there are no buyers? Do we keep lowering the price till we get a buyer? This is the most difficult market I have been in and I have been involved in real estate since 1975. The conventional wisdom of a CMA does no good if no one is buying. Yes - there are overpriced listings. But reducing all the overpriced listings - will that create more buyers?  I do not think so.

Sep 25, 2010 06:25 AM
Ruthmarie Hicks
Keller Williams NY Realty - 120 Bloomingdale Road #101, White Plains NY 10605 - White Plains, NY

When there aren't any buyers - you can only go by comps...however, you can't go by comps if no one is willing to buy....A lot of people in my area use comps to justify a price that is too high.  The result is homes moving at a glacial pace.

Sep 25, 2010 05:00 PM
Anonymous
K. David Hirschey

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Several good observations and valid comments to Mr. Kodner original post and/or challenge.  However Mr. Kodner has hit a KEY element in articulating that the 'sky-high' (read as: hoped for, sunk cost, ‘use-to-be-worth’, etc.) listing approach does a disservice to the prospective buyer, the frustrated and discouraged seller, as well as the local community in general!  Contrary to some peoples ambitions or objectives, market conditions dictate the actual or current price / value ratio.  By in large, inventory moves when price accurately and not necessarily when or how one ‘wishes’.

Overpriced listings serve (?) only to stroke the ego of an ill informed, lazy, or perhaps disingenuous Broker / Agent.

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Sep 29, 2010 07:23 PM
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Eric Kodner
Wayzata Lakes Realty: Eric Kodner Sells Twin Cities Homes - Minnetonka, MN
Wayzata Lakes Realty: Twin Cities, Madeline Island

Li, thank you so much! 

Andrew - In our Madeline Island community, we have few comparables on which to base our pricing.  A lot of extra research is required in order to come up with prices that are based in reality. 

Gabrielle - Good observation on your part about some price points being "stagnant right now".  And while a particular price range may be stagnant, people's lives are not.  Sellers need to sell and not all sellers can sit and wait year after year for an offer.  The only solution to getting a property moving on the market may be to adjust to reality and price accordingly.

Oct 01, 2010 05:03 AM
Eric Kodner
Wayzata Lakes Realty: Eric Kodner Sells Twin Cities Homes - Minnetonka, MN
Wayzata Lakes Realty: Twin Cities, Madeline Island

Steve and Carol - "Reducing all the overpriced listings" probably won't happen, because some sellers will put their feet in concrete and won't budge.  We see this particularly with the folks who list a house and tell their agent "I'm testing the waters to see what I can get for my home..I don't have to sell".  And if a seller is not motivated to sell, their price likely won't budge.

But if a seller must sell, and sell in the near term, there is no option to stubbornly adhere to a blue-ribbon price.  For the seller who must sell, reducing the price of their overpriced listing offers perhaps the only possibility that a buyer will see the value and act on it.

There's just so much we can do in our profession.  We can counsel sellers to price at the market.  We can increase our marketing so that more prospective buyers are able to find our listings.  There are no guarantees that any one action will succeed.

Oct 01, 2010 05:11 AM
Eric Kodner
Wayzata Lakes Realty: Eric Kodner Sells Twin Cities Homes - Minnetonka, MN
Wayzata Lakes Realty: Twin Cities, Madeline Island

Ruthmarie - I hear the frustration in what you wrote above.  The seller who has to sell and has to sell now can't afford to overprice.  That being said, overpricing comes down to a matter of opinion.  A higher price does not mean that a property is overpriced.  In fact, the highest-priced home in a particular bracket may be the best value!

Oct 01, 2010 05:17 AM
Eric Kodner
Wayzata Lakes Realty: Eric Kodner Sells Twin Cities Homes - Minnetonka, MN
Wayzata Lakes Realty: Twin Cities, Madeline Island

Mr. Hirschey, thank you for the supportive comment.  It's always gratifying to know that my posts are being read by the public.  I really liked your statement, "Inventory moves when priced accurately".  That is the essence of what agents need to tell their sellers when counseling them about pricing.

Oct 01, 2010 05:20 AM