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SMARTER THAN THE AVERAGE BEAR?? MORE WILEY THAN WILEY THE COYOTE?? OR, A LAMB WAITING TO BE SHEARED??

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Real Estate Agent with Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate 303829;0225082372

Liz and Bill Spear got my attention with their savvy post about buyers who have the very sadist of negotiating skills.  See:  NO!! NOT HAPPENING!! NEVER!! FUHGETABOUTIT!!

CONSUMERS' QUESTIONS REVEAL THEIR INEXPERIENCE.  Do prospective buyers really believe that  practicing agents would disclose the most valuable information about sellers that would then give these buyers a distinct negotiating advantage????  It appears that they do. 

CONSUMERS ARE JUST LOOKING FOR THE TREASURE CHEST OF "INSIDE" INFORMATION!

I'm often posed these question when prospective buyers call for information about homes for sale.  Pot O' Gold

  1. "How much negotiating room is in this price?"
  2. "How low will they go?"
  3. "What is their bottom line?"
  4. "Why are they selling?"

THEY ARE WRONG!  No experienced agent without an agency representation relationship with a caller would disclose such information, even if they knew the answer

Our answers to those questions is likely to be:

  1. "We don't know until the seller is presented with an offer."
  2. "How high are you willing to offer?"
  3. "I don't believe that they have one."
  4. "Because they want to."

Many prospective home buyers don't realize that their questions, simply the questions alone, reveal these consumers as very unsophisticated, inexperienced and naive.  Yet, they ask the questions believing that they'll get inside information, information that no one else has thought to ask or information that will give them a clear negotiating advantage.

WHAT MAKES PROSPECTIVE HOME BUYERS BELIEVE THESE MYTHS?  I believe that buyers are reading articles on the Internet and in the weekly real estate section of their local newspapers written by journalists who have no real estate experience, no real estate knowledge and no accountability

THE TITLES OF THE ADVICE ARTICLES SPEAK VOLUMES.

  • "Questions to ask sellers when negotiating to buy a home."
  • "Negotiate home prices before you buy."

Prospective home buyers read these articles and feel empowered.  They now believe that they have learned the secrets of negotiating the best home prices, often before the home is even viewed. 

WHAT IS THE WRITER'S REAL ESTATE EXPERIENCE?  The advice columns are often written by FORMER real estate agents or brokers.  These writers can and do give quality real estate advice but seldom advise prospective home buyers to represent themselves to buy a home.  They know from experience that agents will quickly gain the upper hand in negotiating price, terms and conditions when dealing with unrepresented holENNme buyers. 

WHO HAS THE EXPERIENCE?  When the advice articles are written by journalists who have never been "in the trenches" as an agent or broker, their articles are written by information obtained by interviewing working agents.  Or, journalists base their articles on their personal purchases or sales.  Experienced real estate agents may have closed hundreds of transactions.  THAT is experience. 

Investor buyers often sound promising.  However, unless they are really experienced, they can usurp more time than the average residential home buyer.  Many investor buyers want to sit in their homes or offices, review listing after listing by phone and expect an agent to provide them with comps, plats, interior photos, etc., before they view a single property for sale.   I'm very patient with investor buyers and we represent them regularly, but only if they are willing to hit the road with us and preview listings thereby limiting the research time to those properties they the investor would consider buying. 

 

WHAT'S THE SOLUTION TO THE TELEPHONE NEGOTIATORS??  Let them know that YOU, THE AGENT, DO NOT HAVE THE ANSWERS!!  Only the home owners can make decisions about offers, bottom lines, price, terms and conditions. 

Courtesy, Lenn Harley, Broker, Homefinders.com, 800-711-7988.

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Comments(47)

Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Brenda.  Get busy.  We need some good reading.  Most of the posts today are listings.

Wendy.  We've sold several short sales where the sellers were not in arrears.  Job transfers all.

Sep 27, 2010 12:02 PM
Kristen Wheatley
Better Homes & Gardens | The Masiello Group - Brunswick, ME
Supporting Success - Best Job in the World!

Yes, yes, yes!  There seems to be no end to the "advice" given to buyers by overzealous, non-expert journalists and my personal fave - family members.  Sadly, too many agents stupidly supply these answers and the buyers have become accustomed to getting them.  Many are surprised when they find out they are not going to get these answers from you.  Then they also realize they have been dealing with unprofessional and inexperienced agents.

The media debacle also extends to the seller side.  I saw a report on a major network advising sellers to be sure they were present at all showings because "no one can sell your home like you can."!?!?!?!  Go figure!

Sep 27, 2010 12:26 PM
Christine Bohn
RE/MAX Professionals - Gainesville, FL
The Bohn Team, Gainesville FL

A-M-E-N   - Thanks Lenn.  I've been dealing with this issue too.  It's good to hear/read that someone else agrees with my brain too.

Sep 27, 2010 01:55 PM
1~Judi Barrett
Integrity Real Estate Services 116 SE AVE N, Idabel, OK 74745 - Idabel, OK
BS Ed, Integrity Real Estate Services -IDABEL OK

Lenn,

I love the responses that you have given.

My responses are usually different because I respond with the Oklahoma Transaction Broker Law about what information can be disclosed when a broker is working as a transaction broker.

 

Sep 27, 2010 01:59 PM
Gary Woltal
Keller Williams Realty - Flower Mound, TX
Assoc. Broker Realtor SFR Dallas Ft. Worth

I agree Lenn, the POINT of agency representation is INSIDE information.

Sep 27, 2010 02:04 PM
Glenda Cherry
Keller Williams Realty - Herndon, VA
Realtor / Photographer

I love it when potential buyers ask questions like these ... it tells me more about them than they could possibly know!

Sep 27, 2010 02:15 PM
Christa Borellini
Prudential California - San Diego, CA

I read their original article and like you take as well.  I, wehn working as a buyers agent, ask these questions all the time.  You would be surprised how many agents give me all I need to get my clients the best deal.

Sep 27, 2010 02:35 PM
Richard Weisser
Richard Weisser Realty - Newnan, GA
Richard Weisser Retired Real Estate Professional

Lenn...

I always tell them: "We are playing poker and you are asking me what is in my hand before you bet." I then suggest they make their best offer and we will do the "best we can!"

Sep 27, 2010 02:45 PM
Evelyn Johnston
Friends & Neighbors Real Estate - Elkhart, IN
The People You Know, Like and Trust!

They just think they are savvy.  Their questions tell on them.

Sep 27, 2010 03:17 PM
Lana Robbins Realtor ® Licensed Real Estate Broker
Aloha Kai Real Estate - Clearwater, FL
Licensed in Florida, Washington, and Hawai'i

Hi Lenn. Yet some continue to believe those writers who try to pass themselves off as "experts in real estate."

Sep 27, 2010 03:52 PM
Christine Donovan
Donovan Blatt Realty - Costa Mesa, CA
Broker/Attorney 714-319-9751 DRE01267479 - Costa M

There are so many "investors" these days trying to get deals in this down, buyers' market.  The wrong ones can waste time, and you have to pick through to find the right real ones.

Sep 27, 2010 05:23 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Kristin.  Thanks.  You just made my point.

Christine.  Nothing wrong with your brain.  We agree.

Judi.  When everyone is a customer, things are a lot different.

Gary.  Indeed and inside is confidential.

Glenda.  And they haven't a clue.

Christa.  It's amazing how much agents will reveal when given the chance.

Richard.  There appears to be a knee-jerk impulse for buyers to begin low.  Then the house goes to a higher offer and those buyers wonder why they "weren't given a chance".  I have to tell them that they were given a chance and they didn't take it.

Evelyn.  They do, don't they.

Lana.  Most real estate writers that contact me are journalists, not real estate persons.

Christine.  Yep.  I had two in my morning e-mail. 

Sep 27, 2010 10:47 PM
Manuel Monserrate
Raleigh, NC

So right it hurts.  Because when I bought my first home this are the questions I asked myself.  It was definitely inexperience (ignorance?), but obviously now I see it as a clear indication to the agent/salesperson of how completely clueless I was.  I can picture him now, thinking "Oh my, here we go with these newbies..."

Sep 28, 2010 01:18 AM
Kathy Clulow
Uxbridge, ON
Trusted For Experience - Respected For Results

Lenn - with so much 'free' advice on the internet it is no wonder buyers still ask those questions because that is what many 'experienced' buyers ask. ..... especially given Christa's answer #36 above and your reply.

Sep 28, 2010 02:00 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Manuel.  Not to worry.  Some of us love first time buyers. 

Kathy.  Indeed.  With experience, many of us can read between the lines of what the agent or consumer is saying.

Sep 28, 2010 02:18 AM
Jim Hale
ACTIONAGENTS.NET - Eugene, OR
Eugene Oregon's Best Home Search Website

Then of course there are the experienced agents that ask the same questions.....because they've come to expect that naive agents will provide such info in violation of their duty.

Sep 28, 2010 06:23 AM
Steven Cook
No Longer Processing Mortgages. - Tacoma, WA

Hmmm - not to tempt anyone, but could the seller's agent not be financially resposible for a lower sale price due to divulging such information?

Sep 28, 2010 07:00 AM
Steve Opacke
LI House Tours - Smithtown, NY

Either the answers have value or they don't.  If the answers have value, why wouldn't the buyer ask for them?  It doesn't cost them anything and they may just get the answer.  If the answer has no value then why can't the seller give it?  

You can assume whatever you want about the buyer based on their questions.  I always ask simple/dumb questions during any negotiation.  It makes the other side feel superior and in charge.

Sep 28, 2010 08:39 AM
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Bunch of buzzards stand around talking while the early bird gets the worm........

Sep 28, 2010 09:04 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Jim.  That is very true.

Steven.  I love that question.

Steve.  You're over my head.

Richie.  That's funny . . . . .  and very true.

Sep 28, 2010 09:20 AM