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Testing out Active Rain's Rain Maker

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Real Estate Agent with Better Homes and Gardens Real Estate Signature Service

In order for it to Rain Actively, you must be a Rain Maker?

Did anyone else get approached by someone from Active rain trying to get you to buy into the "Rain Maker" for approx. $40/month? I was asked persistently about giving them my credit card information and she insisted that this was an essential piece to my Real Estate practice. I was confused at the time, heard about other agents using active rain so not knowing any better, I joined.

What do you get with this price? I was told that if I bought into this "Rain Maker" that someone would get in touch with me and show me how to make use of Active rain, build my profile, so I can start using this website to its full potential. It's been 3 months now and I haven't heard from them. I've been playing around with this site, not really understanding what its supposed to do other than getting referrals and networking with other agents, but I'm still not completely sold on this site. I tried calling in to cancel my Rain maker account and the gentleman said that I should give it a few more days to try and use my rain maker account before it renews. I told him my frustration of not really understanding the benefit of the site and said that I might as well make a better effort in using it to give it a fair chance. Even though, I still don't really know how to use this site, he said that he'll send me an email about downloading some webinars or a tutorial of how to use Active rain. He said that Active rain isn't a program which will generate leads for you, you have to be active in it to make it rain, not in those words, but to that effect.

It's been 6 hours and there isn't an email from them. Well, here's my first blog...

Can ANYONE give me any insight of the benefits to upgrading to the "Rain Maker"??

 

Status update: It is now October the 9th (my billing period), the Tuesday buddy on the phone who was covering for Steven Graham told me to call back on the 9th to cancel. When I try calling them back to Cancel, (because I don't see the value in the extra "rain maker" account payments after giving it a few days), lucky me, they're closed on the weekends... Which means that I JUST PAID FOR ANOTHER MONTH FOR SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE!

Oh, and still no email from them explaining about how I can make use of rainmaker.

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Steven Ho
Better Homes and Gardens Real Estate Signature Service - Mississauga, ON

Gotta love how this huge social network for Realtors don't have a toll free # for us to call them when we have questions. Are they here to help? Or do they just want to get paid?

Oct 04, 2010 06:42 PM
Elite Home Sales Team
Elite Home Sales Team OC - Corona del Mar, CA
A Tenacious and Skilled Real Estate Team

Not sure what is going on here either.  You need to do some more probing.

Oct 04, 2010 06:44 PM
Steven Ho
Better Homes and Gardens Real Estate Signature Service - Mississauga, ON

The total came to $41.43. Every month.

Oct 04, 2010 06:45 PM
Maria Morton
Platinum Realty - Kansas City, MO
Kansas City Real Estate 816-560-3758

Steven, here is a link to the Active Rain Newbies Group. There used to be a Manual on Brad Andersohn's profile page but it is gone. As of yesterday, Active Brad is no longer the Community Builder on Active Rain; he has been recruited by Zillow.

I am not charged for Rainmaker status but I heard that people joining now will have to pay. I pay for my Outside Blog and also for Hit Router.

Another person you might want to talk to about ramping up your presence is Katerina Gassett. She is excellent at making Google juice and shares much information on her blog posts. I actually took one of her classes and learned more than I had time to implement.

Good luck in your business.

Oct 04, 2010 06:49 PM
Maria Morton
Platinum Realty - Kansas City, MO
Kansas City Real Estate 816-560-3758

Also, I noticed that you're in Ontario so try talking with Liz Moras. She is in Canada and an excellent Rainer.

Oct 04, 2010 06:51 PM
MichelleCherie Carr Crowe .Just Call. 408-252-8900
Get Results Team...Just Call (408) 252-8900! . DRE #00901962 . Licensed to Sell since 1985 . Altas Realty - San Jose, CA
Family Helping Families Buy & Sell Homes 40+ Years

Steven do you blog regularly? That is the best use of Active Rain. From my imperfect understanding, as a RainMaker when you blog, the service indexes and tags your blogs which gives you "Google Juice" - in other words, it helps the search engines find and consider your content valuable, which increases your rankings.

There are LOTS of people in the AR community who will willingly help you. The newbies group is great, check out the tutorials, and blog daily, as well as comment on others' blogs.

The reality now is for new clients to find you, they look on the search engines. If you're not on page 1, your competitor is and they'll call that person first.

Best wishes!

Oct 04, 2010 07:01 PM
MichelleCherie Carr Crowe .Just Call. 408-252-8900
Get Results Team...Just Call (408) 252-8900! . DRE #00901962 . Licensed to Sell since 1985 . Altas Realty - San Jose, CA
Family Helping Families Buy & Sell Homes 40+ Years

FYI Rama, Rainmaker and Outside blogs are 2 different services.

Oct 04, 2010 07:03 PM
Bryan Robertson
Los Altos, CA

I suggest signing up for the classes on Activerain University.  Click those words and you'll go there directly.

Oct 04, 2010 07:07 PM
Gayla Worrell
Windermere Real Estate/Everett, Inc. - Everett, WA
Real Estate Webworks

Steven - I signed up for Rainmaker through the 30 day free trial.  I pay $39 a month, probably plus tax, so $41 something sounds about right.  The biggest benefit for that is the ability to make public posts (instead of just to the AR membership) and the outside blog.  Public posts and outside blog posts are indexed by the search engines.  Spend some time going through the new member resources, webinars and AR University and you can learn how these tools will help your business.

I did invite an agent in my office today and within a few minutes of signing up, he got a call from someone at AR.  I warned him that someone would probably call and see if he needed help with anything, like they did with me.  Instead of getting a call from the helpful person I talked to, his call was a hard sell from a guy who wouldn't stop asking for his credit card information.  He tried the nice, polite route but finally just hung up the phone because the guy wouldn't give up.  I was a little embarassed that I had referred him to the site and he had to deal with that.

Oct 04, 2010 07:43 PM
Maria Morton
Platinum Realty - Kansas City, MO
Kansas City Real Estate 816-560-3758

Gayla, an agent in my office had the same experience last week. I hope this is not a harbiinger of things to come at Active Rain. The helpful phone calls from Brad Andersohn will be no longer now that he has moved to Zillow.

Oct 04, 2010 08:23 PM
Jose Dias
Home Sellers Help in Scottsdale-Phoenix-Peoria-Glendale - Scottsdale, AZ
Sell Your Home in Scottsdale-Phoenix-Peoria-Glendale-Goodyear

Steven,

I am also new to Active Rain. I have been here for a little over one week and I am enjoying it. I did not sign up to be a Rainmaker yet because I am not convinced of the value. I do have an outside blog and I don't see the benefit of maitaining another one here. My outside blog is a subdomain of my domain (MyFirstHouseAZ.com).

Having said that, if you don't have a blog under your own domain I would recommend you use the blog functionality here. It is amazing how interactive and helpful everybody are. My blog (under my domain) has a little over 2 months and I never had any comments there. I had viewers but no comments. I started my blog here last week and I had comments for every single post. This encourages me to continue posting.

And before I go I would like to leave you with a little piece of advice. As you know, there are lots of companies and people that sell to real estate agents. Some of them are very convincing and have great products. However, never sign up for anything that you don't understand or are not sure will give you the return you want/need. Gary Keller (founder of Keller Williams) has a very interesting recommendation regarding our investments - we should play red light/green light with our money. Do not spend another dime until you are sure your current investments are generating the returns you need/want. And please don't be upset with my comment. I wish I was able to follow his advice all the time. I too have spent money on things that did not generate the return I wanted. :O)

Cheers.

Oct 04, 2010 09:44 PM
Wallace S. Gibson, CPM
Gibson Management Group, Ltd. - Charlottesville, VA
LandlordWhisperer

I was never called, I just saw the value and signed up.  The value is there and it is tax deductible!

Oct 04, 2010 11:53 PM
Jay Schmitt
Keller Williams Keystone Realty - Gettysburg, PA
Gettysburg Real Estate Agent

When I signed up for the Rain Maker Trial I found I didn't really have time so I called to cancel several time and got no response. I never did get a call but found that I could go into my account setting and change my credit card # to all zeros making it unusable. I still post comments but have never been called back.

Oct 05, 2010 12:37 AM
Kelly Gebler
Keller Williams Realty Portland Elite - Portland, OR
Selling The Northwest!

All I did was buy a ticket to go to a RainCamp event...now I've just realized my credit card has been billed the last 3 months to be a member of Raincamp.  I had no clue!  I've called and emailed and gotten no response to shut it down and refund what they took out!  I like the zero's idea - definitely going to try that.

Oct 14, 2010 09:16 AM
Lorinda Ward
Keffer Realty - Norfolk, VA
Serving, Hampton Roads Virginia. Norfolk, Chesapeake, Va Beach

I have been a member since 2007 and I see that new members are offered memberships for $20, $30, and $40.  Why do mine says $69.00 a month, what is the deal with that.

Mar 13, 2011 07:28 PM
Roberta Kayne
Dublin & Central Ohio Homes - Dublin, OH
CRS, ABR, SFR, RRS, Realtor, Re/Max Affiliates

I joined activerain several years ago and was listed as a "rainmaker" but then they said if I upgrade my blog I would get more hits and traffic.  I did that and am  not seeing results for the $39/month.  I asked several times for help and all they say is to go to the webinars.  I like to 000 idea too. 

Mar 20, 2011 04:57 AM
Kerrie La Guardia
ActiveRain, Community Manager - Kirkland, WA
Let it Rain!

Steven, I am so sorry that I am just seeing this now and that you've experienced that kind of service.  It truly makes me red in the face because ActiveRain prides itself on superior customer service and it looks as though we have dropped the ball here and for that, I apologize.

The benefit of becoming a paying RainMaker vs the free account is you have the option to post your blogs publicly.  If you are not a RainMaker, your posts are only being seen by the other members of ActiveRain.  Public posts are indexed by the search engines and if done right, will show up on page one of Google for the search terms you'd like to get recognized for.  There is a certain algorithm to this, "Google Juice" if you will and thus is why we provide free ActiveRain University classes.  You must know how to blog in order to show up on page one. 

The price of RainMaker status has changed throughout the years in order to keep up with trends.  Current price is $59/month.  If you are paying another price, it is because you signed up when that price was active and you will continue to be grandfathered in at that price so long as you don't cancel.

Steven, I'm here to give you some one on one if you'd prefer anytime.  Your success is my success!

Mar 24, 2011 07:58 AM
Christine R. Sutherland
Sun Realty USA, Inc. - Punta Gorda, FL
REALTOR - RSPS, e-Pro, TRC

Steven was excellent and very helpful, but, of course, he has now left, together with Doug Ching.  So many changes!

May 24, 2011 02:48 AM
Jeff Mateja
Keller Williams Realty - Universal Properties - Portland, ME
Southern Maine Real Estate

Interesting. I signed up at RainCamp for an account and received a fair amount of traffic but like someone else said I did not have the time to post regularly on here and m personal blog so I scrapped it with the Gary Keller red light/green light philosophy. I now get automated emails that my credit card has expired and they have called me to try and get me to come back to being a RainMaker. I don't see the overall value. If you can work the SEO angle you can do this all from your own site.

May 30, 2011 03:32 AM
Mike Schneider
10 YRS with Active Rain ! - Lake in the Hills, IL
ABR, CDPE, SFR

well almost a year has passed since you wrote this post........im interested in knowing...how are things since oct 2010.....are you happy ? are you still with AR? are you still a Rainmaker? and what advice do you offer me....for I was a rainmaker for $39./mo..never really knew what I was paying for...tried to cancel and couldnt find a fone # either.....in fact, at the time, I had 2 AR accounts...not sure how that happened...I tried to merge the two but I gave up. One was a rainmaker and was "free".....I eventually changed the credit card # as well..and never heard from anyone till they discovered my card was no longer accepting their 'debit"...Thats really not my style but i had no choice...to this very day..i'm active on AR...not as aggressive as many ive seen...but today i discovered University...and explored. Still "free" and explore a little each day..I was left with a bad taste for many months i attempted to get help...and didnt. That's why today, i'm still cautious. Actually I found your post via search mode and I related well to your comments and others apparently who experienced the same.....Im not "putting down" AR for I do enjoy it day to day. The posts are great. I'm still not sure if the rainmaker will benefit me that much..and technically Ive been active with AR since 2008. I found somewhat of a comfort Zone,,,,,just browsing each day....but still wonder why im not taking advantage of all features...like you, I need "insight" and proof of benefits ! and $59 month is getting steep if you ask me....

really interested what path you took after writing this post.....hope all is great for you.

Sep 30, 2011 02:26 AM