It's about time, but it's too bad you can't send someone to jail for stupidity

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It's about time,
but it's too bad you can't send someone to jail for stupidity

http://www.missionvalleycondos.infoWith all the stories about damage and theft from houses that were going into foreclosure, or in foreclosure, it was only a matter of time before one of the lenders decided to take action.

Up in Murrieta, about 75 miles from San Diego, a husband and wife pled not guilty to damage and theft from an "encumbered property." The husband is a former Marine and a current San Diego police officer. They are accused of causing $165,000 in damage and theft of $44,000 of property. The list of damage and theft from their 3,056-square-foot home is extensive:

  • The front rock facade was ripped off the house.
  • Electric wires were dug out of the walls and cut.
  • http://www.missionvalleycondos.infoA flagstone walkway and porch were removed, as was the garage door, countertops, drawers, kitchen cabinet doors, the air conditioner, gates, and even wooden beams from the interior ceilings.

According to records, on May 21 a notice of sale was posted on the house and they had until June 14 to leave. On June 15, a representative of the lender called police when the damage and theft was discovered.

I don't know if they are guilty even though their attorney said that the couple http://www.missionvalleycondos.infohad offered to return some of the property but that the lender refused. The American legal system says that they are innocent until proven guilty, and they will have their day in court. However, I didn't much care for their attorney, who also said, "How much does it cost to replace a little tile or to replace a counter top?" Too bad you can't send people to jail for stupidity.

I'm not an attorney, but I would think that if you have a house that has a mortgage on it, an "encumbered property," if the lender forecloses on your house, the house should be in the same condition as when they lent you the money to buy the house, normal wear and tear excluded.


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Linda Hinson
S & L Properties - Calabash, NC

Was this the one that the wife was a real estate agent?

Oct 10, 2010 03:49 PM #1
Roger D. Mucci
Shaken...with a Twist 216.633.2092 - Euclid, OH
Lets shake things up at your home today!

There would be a lot more home owners in this situation in jail if we could put them there for being stupid...................great post Jim. 

Oct 10, 2010 04:07 PM #2
Susan Haughton
Long and Foster REALTORS (703) 470-4545 - Alexandria, VA
Susan & Mindy Team...Honesty. Integrity. Results.

I am so glad to hear this!  My (former) hair stylist got in over her head buying up property she couldn't afford, thought she would be able to sell and make a profit, but the market turned on her.  As the first house was going to foreclosure, she commented to me she was going to take everything out of the house that wasn't nailed down, including the appliances, because "I paid for it." 

I looked at her and said, "actually, you DID NOT pay for it, which is why you are losing it."  I paid the bill, walked out of her shop and never went back.  That comment went right through me!  People actually feel INSULTED and VIOLATED because they are being expected to pay their debts!

Oct 10, 2010 04:09 PM #3
Liz Flint
Century 21 Hardee-Team Realty - Houston, TX
Houston\Tomball Realtor (832)816-8066

How sad to think that someone (the previous owners or someone else) could be so destructive to that house. 

Oct 10, 2010 04:30 PM #4
Mary Macy
Top Agents Atlanta Metro - Roswell, GA
Top Agents Atlanta Metro

We truly live in unprecedented times and people are really being unfortunately stupid right now.

Oct 10, 2010 04:50 PM #5
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster REALTORS®, Gainesville, VA - Bristow, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

It's about time that this crap is catching up with people.  I have been in properties like this that have been destroyed by their former owners.  I'm featuring this one in Bartender, Make it a Double.

Oct 11, 2010 03:25 AM #6
Will Nesbitt
Nesbitt Realty at Condo Alexandria - Alexandria, VA
Nesbitt Realty is a family-run brokerage.

No respect at all! I am left speechless with these sort of behavior towards property that isn't even theirs.

Oct 11, 2010 07:20 AM #7
Kathryn Maguire (757) 560-0881 - Chesapeake, VA
Serving Chesapeake, Norfolk, VA Beach

It will be interesting to see what happens.  There are so many people who feel justified in doing this. I toured one recently where they had spray painted everything, knocked holes in the walls, and poured cement in the plumbing.  They were not just taking things of value, merely making it very expensive to fix.

Oct 11, 2010 09:29 AM #8
Jim Frimmer
HomeSmart Realty West - San Diego, CA
Realtor & CDPE, Mission Valley specialist

Linda – No. That one was a foreclosure, and the wife was a real estate agent her husband was the bank’s foreclosure specialist.

Roger – I hope this made the national news, though, to help wake up those stupid people.

Susan – And for some reason, when it comes to foreclosed homes and repossessed cars, that’s when people really do strange things that they otherwise would not do.

Liz – I think it is much more common than what has made the news.

Mary – All because of money. Just watch Judge Judy to see how money can tear apart families and friends, and cause otherwise normal people to do insane things.

Chris Ann – Thanks for the feature. Does that mean I get some extra points?

Will – I think some of these people still think that possession is nine-tenths of the law, so as long as they still possess it, they will do what they want to it.

Kathryn – Reminds me of the “Two and a Half Men” episode where Jake says that the school bully would rather spit in his cherry cobbler than let anyone have it. Mean for the sake of being mean, destructive for the sake of being destructive…….. just doesn’t make sense to me.

Oct 20, 2010 01:16 PM #9
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