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Pigs Get what Pigs Deserve

By
Real Estate Agent with Preferred Properties Key West



I have a couple of thoughts about banks and bailouts. I was opposed to the bailout because it insured the fat bastards that got us into this mess would emerge whole and unscathed. Their bad acts have gone unpunished. And they continue to reward themselves with gluttonous bonuses. All of this earned on the backs of normal people. BP Chairman Carl-Henric Svanberg (not a banker, I know) said this of what I call normal people: "we care about the small people. I hear comments sometimes that large oil companies or greedy companies that don't care, but that is not the case at BP. We care about the small people." Big banks and big oil care a lot about small people, you bet they do.

The big banks continue to deal with the foreclosure mess which they themselves created. It's a numbers game to them. And the staffs (inside the banks and outside contractors) crunch the numbers so that the result of whatever individual deal they are working on produces an acceptable result for the bank.

And it is not just the big banks that function this way. One local bank was acquired by an out of state banking system a while back. Then it acquired another local bank that was shut down by the FDIC earlier this year. The new bank spends lots of money on local advertising and seeks new business. Loan officers do what loan officers must do in small banks, they join service clubs and participate in community organizations to "reach out" and encourage new banking relationships.

This same bank has a huge number of bank owned properties acquired through foreclosure. You would think it would have all of those assets listed with local Realtors so that the non-earning assets could be sold. I used to manage bank owned assets for a big bank in Denver. I know what I am talking about. This is not "theory". It is dogma.

Mr. Potter - the ultimate sting banker

Instead this particular bank holds its bank owned assets in its stingy bankers' hands and ineptly tries to sell the banks with "bank owned" signs placed on the various properties. A phone number to an out of state location may connect an interested buyer with a special assets person who may have information on the specific property. Maybe.

Now I know the local person who is responsible for these properties. But when I call this person, the voice mailbox is always full and will not accept my phone message. If I call the local bank I am referred to the special assets departmetn in another state. When I call there I am told a local bank person will call me to schedule a showing. Eventually I will get a call back and we can perhaps see the property. In a recent instance the bank person did not show up for our appointment. He called later in the day and by chance we had just finished our last appointment. We scooted over to the property when I asked a couple of pertinent questions like "What is the price? " To which he answered I would need to talk to Special Assets in the far away state. Outside the presence of my buyer I asked "Will the bank pay me a 3% commission if I produce a buyer?" To this he answered he doubted the bank would be that generous.

A few months ago I wrote about a property that same bank owned in Old Town. It was not listed with a Realtor, and I spoke with a senior bank official directly about that asset. I produced what I thought was a very good, clean offer to purchase the property. I even delivered the contract to banker's house just as he requested. Later when I had not received any response from him, I called him back. He said the Special Assets person would respond to me. That did not happen. So I made calls to Special Assets. My calls were not returned. I called the senior bank official again and reminded him that I used to do the same type of work for a really big bank. I said that if I had failed to respond to a written offer that way I would have been fired. Within minutes I got a phone call. My buyer's offer was countered by the bank. The counter: full price. A few months later the bank listed the same property with a local Realtor at a price less than what my buyer offered months earlier.

I used to refer my buyers to a great banker that works at that same bank. No more. It is not personal. It's business. As nice and as competent as the banker is, I want to do business with individuals and businesses that I like and trust. I don't trust this bank. There are two other local banks that I refer buyers to plus a national bank that is getting a big Florida presence. Why should I send my buyers to deal with a bank that does not want to deal with me and my fellow Realtors fairly. I'm not talking just about listings. I'm talking about pricing, availability to show properties, to have good competent knowledge of what the bank is offering for sale, and to offer fair market compensation for producing a buyer.

Key West is a small town. This particular bank is sitting on millions of dollars of non-earning assets. It spends money and time trying to get new business but refuses to list most of its bank owned properties with local Realtors. It's business plan sucks.

Pigs Get what Pigs Deserve.

Anonymous
lbfisher

on a certain level, i agree with you that commercial banks have, for the most part, acted irresponsibility. those of us in the financial community are not all that surprised since commercial bankers have never been considered all that swift. you seem to ignore, however, that the real estate industry, namely brokers, are not without blame. they encouraged purchases way beyond the buyer's ability to service......................better yet, they bought properties on the cheap and expected to make big bucks after restoring the property  and then cashing in on the never to fall real estate market. i can't tell you the number of properties i've seen which are described as owned by an agent.... i feel bad about those bona fide owners who got hurt in the real estate free fall............by the same token, i could mcare less about the injured banks and the all too smart real estate agents who got it wrong

Oct 18, 2010 10:08 AM
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Gary Thomas
Preferred Properties Key West - Key West, FL
Realtor to the Dreamers

I am aware that a lot of Realtors participated in the downfall. I was not one of them.  I have written several blogs that called real estate "professionals" to task for things they did and that some continue to do.

Today's blog is just my sounding off against the huge bonuses the big banks are taking and the money they continue to earn at the expense of normal people. They are too big to care about individuals. And the men and women bankers in small town branches like Key West have policies to follow.

As for the "local" bank, it is not really local any more. It is run by a small group of people elsewhere who could care less about our town. 

It's kind of like Levis and Maytag washer that used to be symbols of American made. Now they are made in Mexico. Locally owned and operated banks had deep commitments to local communities. Foreign owned banks (owned by companies in Texas or California or wherever) are not local. They care about their stockholders. They do not care about the people of Key West or the people that have money in their banks or use their banking services.

My comments will not phase the big banks or the local bank that is owned by an out of state holding company. The big banks are too big to care. The local bank ought to care, but that bank's business plan does not focus on community. It focuses entirely on profitability. That's why Mr. Potter's pic is in the blog. He's an easy reminder of greed incarnate. Creepy greedy banker.

Gary

Oct 18, 2010 10:52 AM
Anonymous
andrew

Get off your bailout phobia.  Without the bailout you would not be running this blog and instead of 14 million unemployed there would be millions more.   Your emotional outbursts do not reflect reality.

The bailouts enabled those fat bastards kept us all in business.  The federal government if given the money would have screwed it up royally.

The banking system is the heart that supplies the blood that circulates through the economic body.  Just like the human body, stop the heart of the economic system--banking, the blood stops flowing and the economic body dies.    Most of the buyers of the upperend homes in old town are the fat bastards you decry.  Don't turnoff your customers. 

Oct 19, 2010 02:42 PM
#3
Gary Thomas
Preferred Properties Key West - Key West, FL
Realtor to the Dreamers

Andrew, Wrong!  You have your opinion and I have mine.  The big banks are once again raking in Billions of dollars in profits.  I know we had to do something to prevent total calmity, but the bad conduct that got us into the mess went unpunished. 

I remember a case when I was in law school. A young couple in their late teens or very early twenties was drifting across Colorado and managed to steal some hamburger at a Safeway store.  They got caught and were put in jail.  Back then hamburger cost 49 cents per pound.  Jail.  The judge I clerked for asked me go talk to them (off the record) and find out what was going on. What motivated them to steal hamburger.  They had no money.  They were lily white would be hippies who had no money. They probably did it before. Maybe they did it again. I reported back to the judge and he had me talk to the D.A. The D.A. probably dropped the charges. I can't remember. But I do remember a boy and a girl near my age going to jail over 49 cent hamburger.

But we don't put bankers in jail who manipulate markets so that they can make billions in profits. Pension funds were decimated. The housing market across the nation was turned upside down and inside out.  All so that the big banks could make more money.

By the way my buyers are not "fat bastards". Most of my buyers are people my age who have worked, earned, saved and invested so that they can buy their place in Paradise. I respect them and they respect me.  I even have a former Goldman Sachs broker as a buyer.  He got a great deal on a really great house. And I also have young buyers, mostly young couples with small kids, looking to buy a primary residence or an investment property that they can hopefully use full time at some later date. 

My buyers know exactly where my head and heart are located.

Gary

 

 

Oct 19, 2010 09:39 PM