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Are You Being Suckered? Why Paying Someone to Submit Your Site to Search Engines Flushes Good Money Down the Drain… (Part 2)

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Services for Real Estate Pros with InHouse Writer

This is Part 2 of a three-part tutorial. If you missed Part 1, you can read it here.

HOW TO SUBMIT YOUR SITE TO DMOZ

Dmoz provides step-by-step directions on how to submit your site at www.dmoz.org/add.html

Here are my summation and advice...

The first step is to find the category you want Dmoz to list you in. Keep drilling down into the categories by clicking the category links until you get to the one right for you. It’s like finding a certain kind of jelly at the grocery. Drilling down through the categories would be like GroceryStore>Isle 5>JellySection>ThirdShelfFromTop.

On the Dmoz Help page it says: “You should submit your site to the single most appropriate category that is directly relevant to your site's content. Please only submit your site one time. The ODP editors reserve the right to use their editorial discretion to determine which category or categories your site will ultimately be placed.”

The graphic to the right shows the best category starting place for real estate agents: www.dmoz.org/Regional/North_America/United_States/Business_and_Economy/Real_Estate/

 To get there quickly, come back to this tutorial later and click the link above. From there, click on your state and keep drilling down (clicking links) until you find the city, county or metro area you want Dmoz to list you in.

IMPORTANT: If you click on a category and think that is where you want to be listed but there is no “Submit URL” link at the top of the page, it means that category is not available for selection.

If you have any trouble, here is the Help page on categories:
www.dmoz.org/help/cats.html

Although you don’t need to understand everything about Dmoz to use it, here is their Help page with answers to everything: www.dmoz.org/help/helpmain.html

IMPORTANT: Again, do not submit your site more than once. This can get you rejected, and it will definitely slow the process to a crawl. Also, do not submit a site that’s under construction. It will be rejected.

HOW TO WRITE YOUR TITLE AND DESCRIPTION

But first … when you type your site’s URL on the Dmoz submission form, make absolutely certain it’s spelled correctly. I believe after you type it in, you can check it by clicking it. If all is well with your spelling, clicking it will open your site in a new browser window.
 
Next, the Dmoz guidelines for writing your title and description are at www.akamarketing.com/open-directory-project-tutorial-guide.html

As the guidelines say, your TITLEshould identify the site, not describe it. It should be both informative and concise.” For instance, my title for InHouseWriter.com is InHouse Writer.

Next you need to write your description. Some search engines will use your Dmoz description beneath their  link to your site on their results page. So it’s important to put some thought into your description.

dmozIMPORTANT: Do not write your description as self-promotion. Dmoz is not for advertising. This can get you rejected. Make your description informational only. Spend a few minutes reading other descriptions to see how it’s done and to see what the Dmoz editors like.


Dmoz says the DESCRIPTION "gives specific information about the content and/or subject matter of the site. It should be informative and concise, usually no longer than one or two lines.”

Back when I submitted my site, Dmoz had a character + spaces limit. However, I could not find that limit in their  guidelines when I looked recently. (Most word processors have a word-count tool that will give you a character count too.) Below is the description I wrote back then. It has 234 characters including spaces:

Copywriter Kay Steele Faulk, specializing in direct response copy for print and web, business marketing tools, advertorials, feature articles, SEO copy, web site critique and makeover. Find services, samples, fee minimums and contact.

Direct response copywriter that I am, I could not write it without including a call to action, which is the last sentence: "Find services, samples, fee minimums and contact."

This sentence did not violate the Dmoz guidelines that say “the basic formula for a good description is Description = Subject + Content.” As you can see, “services, samples, fee minimums and contact” all have to do with my site’s content. It’s that little word “Find” that asks for a response from anyone reading it. “Click for” would have been better, but it took up too many characters, and for all I know, using it might have gotten me rejected.

Well that's it. So, how long will it take your site to show up in the search engines? Please click here for the answer...

Writing for your success,

Kay Steele Faulk
The Real Estate Copywriter

Author of the forthcoming e-book
"A Copywriter's Guide for Real Estate Professionals -
How to Write & Lay Out Your Own Personal Brochure"

Available April 17, 2008

If you found the above information useful, you might also like my post that was an AR Gold-Star Winner:
What Is a Personal Brochure and Why Should You Care?

Copyright 2008 Kay Steele Faulk. All rights reserved.


Comments(22)

Crystal Freeman
Willow Creek Creative - Eugene, OR
Well!  That answered my question on Part 1 .... Thank you Kay! 
Sep 27, 2007 07:20 PM
Anonymous
Lisa Van Dootingh
Thank you so much for this information!!! This post was invaluable to me.
Sep 28, 2007 12:26 AM
#4
Anonymous
Lisa Van Dootingh
Thank you so much for this information!!! This post was invaluable to me.
Sep 28, 2007 12:26 AM
#5
Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel
Thanks for sharing.I remember submitting to dmoz.I will check it out.
Sep 28, 2007 12:30 AM
Mary Strang
Viroqua, WI
Thanks for this post, I wanted to learn more about this subject, I will take some time to read it over and have bookmarked it!
Sep 28, 2007 01:24 AM
Mike and Dawn Lewis
The Lewis Team at Keller Williams - San Diego, CA
The Lewis Team at Keller Williams in San Diego CA

Kay,

Great info. What is a Real Estate Copywriter?

Mike Lewis

Sep 28, 2007 01:54 AM
Kay Steele Faulk
InHouse Writer - Lake Village, AR
The Real Estate Copywriter

Crystal: Hey again. I just answered your question over in Part 1 comments, but I now see you found the answer here. Good. Hope it helps........Kay

Lisa: I'm so glad! I held this series in my drafts for a couple of weeks before posting it, so it's very rewarding to know the information has helped someone........Kay

Gita: You're very welcome. Thank you for commenting.........Kay 

Sep 28, 2007 11:55 PM
Kay Steele Faulk
InHouse Writer - Lake Village, AR
The Real Estate Copywriter

Mike: You've given me an idea for a blog post. Thanks!

First, copywriting is writing that markets or sells a product or service. The words used in copywriting have specific work to do, which is determined by a project's primary and secondary objectives and its target market.

So, as a real estate copywriter I specialize in writing copy for real-estate-related projects. These include such projects as brochures, sales letters, Web site copy, email marketing campaigns and other marketing materials for real estate agents and brokers, mortgage brokers and stagers. It also includes B2C and B2B special reports. And it includes such materials for companies that provide services and products (training, coaching, software, research, ebooks, etc.) to real estate agents, brokers and investors in both the residential and commercial sectors.

I also write feature magazine articles for custom lifestyle/relocation magazines published by chambers of commerce. Although magazine articles are not considered copywriting, many of these articles have to do with the housing market in a particular town or county, and the magazine itself is a marketing tool for the town.

This is probably more than you ever wanted to know! But thanks for asking, and let me know if I can help you........Kay 

Sep 29, 2007 12:43 AM
David Slavin
Keller Williams Premier - Katy, TX
CDPE, ABR, SRES Keller Williams Premier
Very informative blog and answers!  Thanks for the insight!
Sep 29, 2007 06:25 AM
Dick Todhunter
Sound Realty Northwest - Renton, WA

Kay,

Great source of information.  I went out to DMOZ and found that only one of three sites were listed.  So now I am up to two of three.  The not registered site, a new blog, is similar to one of my web sites and refers prospects to the recently registered site.  It sounds like, due to similar content, the blog may not be able to be registered.  Which do you think would have been better to register?

Sep 29, 2007 08:12 AM
Kay Steele Faulk
InHouse Writer - Lake Village, AR
The Real Estate Copywriter

David: You're very welcome. Love the testimonials in your profile! Thanks for commenting.......Kay

Dick: I would submit the static site that points to the blog. Only because I don't know if Dmoz accepts blogs. It may not. Click here to go to the Dmoz forum and ask the editors if blogs are accepted. By the way, I found your DickTodhunter.com site on Dmoz, but I didn't find the second one. Your DickTodhunter.com site definitely needs links on it to The Sound Team site and to your mortgage site.

Sep 30, 2007 08:33 AM
Leesa Finley
RED Properties - Wake Forest, NC
RED Properties - Raleigh NC Real Estate
Kay - As always, THANKS!  Bookmarked yet ANOTHER of your posts.  Your advice and knowledge is always appreciated!
Oct 08, 2007 05:11 AM
Kay Steele Faulk
InHouse Writer - Lake Village, AR
The Real Estate Copywriter
Leesa: Thanks for your kind words. I hope this info is useful to you..........Kay
Oct 23, 2007 07:15 AM
Miro Fitkova
Fitkova Realty Group - Boston, MA

I tried to add my site to dmoz twice however both times I got the security code wrong and it wouldn't let me proceed.  Dmoz.org is the only site I have had problem like that with.  Any advice?

 

Miro in Boston

Nov 26, 2007 06:54 PM
Kay Steele Faulk
InHouse Writer - Lake Village, AR
The Real Estate Copywriter
Miro: This is a perfect question to ask in the Dmoz user forum. However, I tried to find it to give you a link and could not. There are other forums, though, that discuss submitting to dmoz. Just google "dmoz forum." Sorry I can't be more help, but I've not encountered that problem............Kay 
Nov 27, 2007 12:46 AM
Heather Fitzgerald
REALTY WORLD-Harbert Company, Inc. - Greenwood, IN
REALTOR Greenwood Indiana Real Estate

I am a Newbie,

I can't get over how much information is on this site.  Have you ever paid for SEO?  I currently am, and am regretting it the more I read on this site.  It was a year contract, so live and learn...

 

Heather in Indy

Nov 27, 2007 02:47 AM
Kay Steele Faulk
InHouse Writer - Lake Village, AR
The Real Estate Copywriter
Heather: Yep, it's part of the price of education. And we all pay it at one time or another. I glanced at your site code and can't see any SEO work to speak of. Certainly nothing that would be more than a one-time fee, not an on-going contract. And there are some simple SEO opportunities that have been completely missed. If you'd like the details I'm basing my opinion on, just email or call me. Please know that this is not a solicitation for work from me. But I'd be happy to share with you what I know. If you're being taken advantage of by your SEO person, he knows he's taking advantage of you and that he's doing nothing to earn an ongoing fee. Personally, I wouldn't pay another dime...........Kay (who is not an attorney nor does she play one on TV)
Nov 28, 2007 12:00 AM
Steve Saunders
e2 Property - Houston, TX
Great info, I just submitted my website.  I had been struggling with whether or not to spend the money, you rock.
Nov 28, 2007 12:26 AM
Kay Steele Faulk
InHouse Writer - Lake Village, AR
The Real Estate Copywriter

Steve: Hi. Glad I could help. You're such a good writer. I love real estate investing and enjoyed reading your blog...........Kay

 

Nov 28, 2007 03:45 AM
Elizabeth Nieves
The Elizabeth Nieves Realty Group - Durham, NC
Bilingual Raleigh - Durham North Carolina Real Estate Team
Kay:  This is priceless information. I am not a techie person...but I get this! Thanks so much!!
Nov 29, 2007 12:10 AM