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DIY Porch Additions Gone Wrong

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Home Inspector with Greens Home Design L.L.C. AZBTR #49380

In this edition of DIY projects gone wrong I will explore porch and carport additions.

When I design a house or an addition to a house I use certain criteria to decide whether I need to use the services of a licensed Structural Engineer.  If the design includes a beam over 20', a ceiling height more than 10' or lateral resistance that cannot meet the prescriptive requirements of the code then I use the services of a Structural Engineer.  Many Home Inspectors find an incorrectly built porch and they immediately recommend having a Structural Engineer look at it because recommending the method to repair it is beyond the scope of a Home Inspectors license.  In my structural design classes at the Arizona State University School of Construction and in the course of designing many custom homes I have learned how to design structural members that meet standard building practices.  This does not mean that I never recommend a Structural Engineer look at something or I try to practice Structural Engineering myself.  It just means that I am able to set the threshold of when a Structural Engineer is needed a little higher

The following pictures are of porch additions that were not done to standard building practices.

This carport uses the fascia as the ledger for the rafters.  The problem with this is that the rafters now rely on the weight of the roof to hold them up.  Most would conclude that the weight of the rafters push down on the top cord of the trusses and therefore push down on the wall.  In reality the wall becomes a teeter totter point that lifts up on the top cord of the truss.  This can cause the top cord of the truss to split or pull up on the ceiling causing cracks in the ceiling.

Carport rafters 

This next picture is the other end of the rafters.  The steel columns sit on a block retaining wall.  They are spaced close together, which is a good thing.  The problem lies in the beam used to hold up the rafters.  All beams should be oriented so that their longest side in cross section is vertical.  If you look closely you can see this 2x sagging at the rafters that are not close to the columns.

carport beam

There are two other issues with this carport.  The rafters are 2x6's at 24" on center.  They span at least 16 feet.  The slope of the carport roof is about ¼" per foot.  This carport is in Globe Arizona.  In the Phoenix area we get snow about once every 100 years.  In Globe they get it once or twice per year.  If you stand back from the front of the carport you can see the bow in the roof.

The home owner had inherited the home when his parents passed away.  When I showed him the bow in the roof he said "No wonder my dad never parked the car under it when it snowed."  Placing the rafters on the top of the wall would have increased the pitch of the roof to allow the snow to melt and run off faster.  Sizing the beam and rafters appropriately would have made this carport much safer. 

In the next photo of a Phoenix home they didn't use the fascia as the ledger.  They bolted the rafters to the ends of the truss top cords.  This is a stronger connection but it still created the teeter totter effect.  The 2x4 rafters are also too small for this patio.

bolted rafters

This is the front porch of the same Phoenix home.  Here they did use the facia as the ledger.  This time they covered it with the plywood.  This also made the porch roof slope too shallow to allow for proper drainage.

porch on fascia

This patio has the beam vertical.  The problem here is that the beam and rafters are undersized.  The full weight of the patio is bearing on the nails.  The post should be cut shorter and the beam should be sitting on top of the post.  The hangers that are designed to connect the posts to the beams also help resist lateral forces.  These nails will not resist any lateral forces.

porch beam

 

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Reuben Saltzman
Structure Tech Home Inspections - Minneapolis, MN
Delivering the Unbiased Truth.

That's one of the nastiest porches I've ever seen.

Feb 08, 2011 09:05 AM
Robert Butler
Aspect Inspection - Montreal West Island, QC
Montreal Home Inspector | Aspect Inspection

On that last one I'd like to see te beam notched into the post rather than just shortening the post, but that will work too. As for the rest; PUCC...People UnClear on the Concept.

If you can't lay the parts inplace and have them stay there then it is not structurally correct. Fasteners are onlt to pin them in place, not to carry or transfer weight.

Feb 09, 2011 01:03 AM
Loren Green
Greens Home Design L.L.C. - Buckeye, AZ
Phoenix Home Inspector & Designer

If the calculated beam size is less than the width of the post then notching it in is a great way to do it.  The ideal way to do it is to use a beam that is the same width as the post with a proper post cap.

I use hangers as sparingly as possible to resist vertical loads.  Most other fasteners are made to resist lateral loads.

Sometimes people choose to save money on the design phase so they can pay to take it out and do it over later.

Feb 09, 2011 05:27 AM
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