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Forget Looking for a Housing Bottom

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bottomless pitWhile the pundits and economists have begun making projections on when we’ll begin to see home prices increasing, we can forget looking for a housing bottom. Macro projections may make for interesting headlines, but what homeowners want to know is when the price of THEIR home will increase; and the answer to their question could be: NEVER.

 

Much of the past year’s home price fluctuations resulted from the Housing Tax Credits and the nation’s widely varying unemployment rate. Once the Tax Credit expired, prices in most areas returned to their downward trend. However, some areas of the country—the area surrounding Washington, DC, portions of California and Texas, some areas of New England, and others, have seen rising home prices, but those areas also have a correspondingly higher rate of employment, a key factor to housing demand.

 

What I think we’ll see in the future is a continuation of this trend with home prices rising in those areas where job creations are strong, and prices unstable or falling in those areas where jobs are unlikely to return. Homeowners in areas of high unemployment are “out of luck” if they expect the price of their home to return to the levels of 2004-2006. Some of the cities that experienced extreme job losses have recently seen nice homes in good areas selling for $25 per square foot. It is irrational to expect those homes to recover their lost equity; and predicting a bottom for their market futile, for some have passed the point of recovery. Stabilization may be the most optimistic outcome. An interesting article on Yahoo describes some of the areas where home prices are well below construction costs.

 

The U.S. economy is being re-formed, the jobs picture is changing, and housing must follow. While we’re experiencing a tepid recovery, with the stock market following a slow rise, and with some businesses having returned to profitability, and with some jobs being created, we’re far short of a typical recovery. During the coming decade I expect to see a growing group unable to participate in home ownership; and it is that group which helped to fund the growth of the past decade. Without their participation, the national housing numbers will remain wanting.


It is difficult to image a return to overall stability unless we can somehow magically create millions of new jobs—a most unlikely scenario. While the Fed is now poised to inject more than a half-trillion dollars (QE2) in an effort to boost the economy and make housing more affordable, the influx of dollars seems unlikely to have a significant impact on either mortgage rates or housing. And with today’s historically low rates failing to lure additional buyers, a slight lowering of mortgage rates will probably bring out few buyers.

 

The objective of QE2 seems unclear; if it is to entice more homeowners to refinance, what is the purpose? If it is only to allow homeowners to lower their monthly payment, there is no benefit to the economy. But if Bernanke expects homeowners to go on another spending binge because of their “found” money, I suspect he’ll be surprised. Not only is such spending one of the reasons for our current problems, those homeowners who have survived the housing crisis and who have some remaining equity have seen the consequences of reckless spending. I doubt many will revert to using their home as an ATM.

 

There’s just no sign on the horizon that housing will stabilize or that home prices will return to robust appreciation, so we can forget looking for a housing bottom. What I expect is a housing market that will seem normal in some areas, unstable in others, and extremely depressed in a few.

 

Few outside the Beltway have confidence that Bernanke’s efforts will bring either growth or stability to the economy. His track record is dismal at best. Most recall his pronouncement at the beginning of the subprime crisis that it would be extremely unlikely for home prices to fall on a grand scale. And just over a year ago he said, “The Federal Reserve will not monetize the debt.” However, in direct conflict with that statement, Dallas Fed President Fisher recently said, “For the next eight months, the nation’s central bank will be monetizing the federal debt.” If Bernanke actions and rhetoric are meant to instill confidence, they fall woefully short. Most are now jaded to such ramblings from bureaucrats and politicians who seem reluctant to share the truth—if they are even aware of it.


Once again the government’s efforts will disappoint; and once again they may be setting the stage for some painful “unintended consequences.” The best hope for this latest round of economic waggery is that it will “do no harm,” stabilizing the housing market seems out of the question.

 

For additional blogs on this topic, see:

While Housing News Is Interesting, Understanding YOUR Market Is Essential

No Housing Recovery = No Recovery

Home Prices Must Fall

Fundamental Changes Coming To The Housing Market

 

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Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

I am reading Bush's book that just came out and he contributes our current nonsense and fall  to Wall Street greed and lack of financial planning by the industry regulators....I mean if the President of the United States couldn't stop or prevent the catastrophe, it is folly to believe that it can be stopped now as your post covers quite well. It is an emergency of National proportions and global if we do not tame it...Rapid appreciation for the market at large is not realistic. For superior and hard to acquire properties like downtown city blocks and parcels that abut next to Disneyland, will always hold their value and more. Looks like the middle class common man in the street carries the burden. John, thank you for the much needed balance (and reality check) on this subject matter.....

Nov 11, 2010 08:16 AM
John Mulkey
TheHousingGuru.com - Waleska, GA
Housing Guru

Richie - And thanks for your input.  As you know we'll all survive.  This isn't about coming soup lines (although the number requiring such help is surely growing); it's about fundamental changes that are occurring in the economy.  And while some will benefit, Main Street will only lose spending power as competition for good jobs becomes more fierce, wages stagnate (unless you work on Wall Street or in DC), and the values of their homes fails to regain recent losses. 

Nov 11, 2010 08:46 AM
Michelle Francis
Tim Francis Realty LLC - Atlanta, GA
Realtor, Buckhead Atlanta Homes for Sale & Lease

John, 

Excellent post.  I am re-blogging.  We need jobs to see appreciation.  We are not seeing that yet!  It's going to be a wild ride!

All the best, Michelle

Nov 11, 2010 09:22 AM
John Mulkey
TheHousingGuru.com - Waleska, GA
Housing Guru

Michelle - Thanks for the support and reblog.

Michael - Exactly.  And being aware of what you're truly seeking can put you on the correct path.

Nov 11, 2010 12:10 PM
1~Judi Barrett
Integrity Real Estate Services 116 SE AVE N, Idabel, OK 74745 - Idabel, OK
BS Ed, Integrity Real Estate Services -IDABEL OK

John,

Very few people want to hear the truth and even fewer speak it.

Employment I the largest influence on the housing market in my area and I have to believe that is elsewhere also. 

When people are working and making money, they can better afford a home.  When the income stops what can they do??

Nov 11, 2010 12:14 PM
Jane Peters
Home Jane Realty - Los Angeles, CA
Los Angeles real estate concierge services

Not a pretty story, but an excellently written one, John.  Unfortunately the only thing that can turn this housing market around IS employment and that is probably never going to come back, certainly to what it was.

Nov 11, 2010 12:40 PM
John Mulkey
TheHousingGuru.com - Waleska, GA
Housing Guru

Judi - And the income has stopped or been reduced for millions.

Jane - Thanks! We've been bleeding jobs for years, and the collapse of housing was a "tipping point," taking job loss to levels not seen in decades.

 

Nov 11, 2010 12:47 PM
Brian Madigan
RE/MAX West Realty Inc., Brokerage (Toronto) - Toronto, ON
LL.B., Broker

John,

We obviously have a different market in Canada. In Toronto the prices now are higher than ever.

Brian

Nov 11, 2010 01:27 PM
Endre Barath, Jr.
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties - Beverly Hills, CA
Realtor - Los Angeles Home Sales 310.486.1002

John, interesting points, we could be debating this for hours. There are a few points I would like to add: First Bernanke is the one who really created the Meltdown Period! He started raising the interest rates worrying about inflation not understanding the big picture what the ramifications were. I thought he would just tank the US Real Estate Market, I did not see that he would tank the Global i.e.: world economy----- I am a Realtor in the Greater Los Angeles, He on the other hand is th FED Chairman he Should have known better! Why he is still in there is beyond me.

Nov 11, 2010 02:13 PM
Lane Bailey
Century 21 Results Realty - Suwanee, GA
Realtor & Car Guy

The mental midgets in DC just can't seem to grasp that the problem is private sector jobs, and they can't "fix" that with a pant-load of new taxes, a ream of new regulation and dumb slogans.  The market will create jobs when they stop tryingt o make a "worker's paradise" and just leave them alone. 

Nov 11, 2010 03:06 PM
Jark Krysinski *PREC (Personal Real Estate Corporation)
REMAX CREST REALTY WESTSIDE - Vancouver, BC
TeamYVR Team Leader, BA,ABR,IRES,IMSD,LLB

It's daunting that so many properties can sell for as little as 25$ per square foot, and it's something I don't wish to anyone.  These are truly depressing stories and, to be honest, I'm not sure if the Fed is doing much to help.  Cheers, Jark.

Nov 11, 2010 04:08 PM
John Mayer
Oikos Realty, Cape Canaveral, Cocoa Beach Florida - Cocoa Beach, FL
Your Beach Area Expert

John - Great post! I used to smile a lot more. It's hard to make a buck in Florida right now and with the upcoming NASA layoffs, it's going to be even harder. Fortunately my overhead is low and the beach and bikinis are only a short bike ride away :-)

Nov 11, 2010 04:58 PM
Broker Nick
South Florida Real Estate & Development, Inc. - Coconut Creek, FL
Broker Nick Relocation Broker Service

Government is not the answer - the demographics of an area is generally the rule of market value of home - if the demographics states that the primary income of the area is $50,000 per family income 0 than the prices of homes will generally fit that income level - not rocket science - no more "stated income - stated assets" loans - banks actually require documentation now - 

Nov 11, 2010 05:06 PM
Broker Nick
South Florida Real Estate & Development, Inc. - Coconut Creek, FL
Broker Nick Relocation Broker Service

Jon - Congratulations on the featured post and the gold star - well done - great post.

Nov 11, 2010 05:07 PM
Kirsten Lindquist
Pacific Union International - Sonoma, CA
Realtor - Sonoma Wine Country

Provocative post and the logic behind it is hard to deny.  I agree with others who've said the jobs we've lost are gone...manufacturing and call centers are not in the future of the u-s job market.  But we do have job growth possiblities in other areas---specifically---energy and technology.  Call me Pollyanna but I believe our country has the ingenuity and drive to ramp up development of employment opportunities in alternative energy and emerging technology.  I also believe we can provide incentives to business that would keep more jobs in the u-s.  We need an intense focus on job growth right now...and we can do that if the business community and government work together to do it.  Too optimistic?  Too simplistic?  Maybe....with our new congress...but who knows?

Nov 11, 2010 05:50 PM
Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

Take a look at Lenn Harley's post about this subject.  A good start is to ask what is meant by the bottom?

Nov 11, 2010 11:28 PM
John Mulkey
TheHousingGuru.com - Waleska, GA
Housing Guru

Brian - And some markets here are doing quite well.

Endre - After keeping track of some of Bernanke's statements, it's easy to see he doesn't understand.

Lane - Politicians remind me of a "carpenter" who says, "I don't understand. I've cut this piece of wood 3 times and it's still too short."  They keep doing the wrong things.

Jark - The Fed is only worsening the situation and placing us at even greater risk.

John - At least you're in a beautiful area.

Nicholas - Thanks!  Government interference is just that.

Kirsten - I agree that we "can" solve our problems, but have yet to be convinced that DC is on our side.

Gabe - Exactly!

 

Nov 12, 2010 12:54 AM
Patricia Aulson
BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY HOME SERVICES Verani Realty NH Real Estate - Exeter, NH
Realtor - Portsmouth NH Homes-Hampton NH Homes

YEs it is what it is, nothing we can do about it except remain positive and forge ahead for the next go round.

Patricia/Seacoat NH & ME

Nov 12, 2010 06:23 AM
John Mulkey
TheHousingGuru.com - Waleska, GA
Housing Guru

Patricia - And keep forging . . . and forging . . .

Nov 12, 2010 09:11 AM
Ruthmarie Hicks
Keller Williams NY Realty - 120 Bloomingdale Road #101, White Plains NY 10605 - White Plains, NY

Its intersting - Westchester is just outside Manhattan and the upper end is starting to thrive again.  The middle class is having a tough slog - even here. 

One of the problems that we have is the disparity between extreme wealth at the top and the rest of the country.  This is a more fundamental problem than people realize.  The super-rich drive up costs on essentials like housing and health care.  They have it, so they spend it.  But that makes it harder on everyone else and puts things like home ownership, medical care, energy costs etc out of reach. This type of two tiered society could result in tremendous civil unrest.  Those "2nd amendment solutions" may indeed come to pass when the tea party figures out they put the fox back in charge of the hen house.

The other issue is that you can't educate yourself out of this disparity.  I hear the talking heads yammer on and on about educating Americans in math, science, and engineering to bring back innovation.  True - that's essential. But have any of these pundits spoken to a scientist in threnches working at the bench?  These people will not go through the  YEARS of full-time post-graduate training required to master these disciplines unless they can earn a decent salary.  There are way too many unemployed or very underpaid  scientists and engineers out there for anyone to enter these fields.  The country simply can not survive on with only 4-5 career tracks earning decent incomes especially if none of them are innovative in nature. 

This is a serious STRUCTURAL problem.  Salaries have to rise again because the wealthy are keeping the cost of living sky-high.

Nov 14, 2010 06:45 PM