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Home inspections...presale or post sale?

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Managing Real Estate Broker with Flexit Realty "Flexible Home Selling Solutions"

I have read many posts on this subject and each has merit BUT which one works to for your client depends on which side of the transaction you are on.  This post is considering the listing side of the transaction.

Having inspections done at sellers expense before the sale, at the time of listing.  This can be handled in several ways and will have different impacts depending on the result.

  1. If the home is in great conditionwith little to do in the way of repairs and inspection can help support the CMA and keep the price up depicting value against other homes that have not had an inspection.  You are presenting a home with the condition known up front.
  2. The other side of the coin is if you uncover a material defect that will affect the property you will have to change you disclosures to reveal this defect.  The repair may be more than the home owner wishes to pay or can afford.  The next obvious choice is to adjust the listing price with an allowance to cover the repair and have the estimate ready.
  3. This may save you personal time and effort too.  First: You will know more about the property and how to market to the features and benefits that best show the properties values.  Second: You may find your seller is not willing to adjust the price or do the repair and your efforts could be and exercise in spending money without result.  Thirdly:The CMA that you thought was accurate has to be adjusted downward or upward based on condition which will help you attain the list price and maintain a higher sell to list price.

Having inspections done post-purchase agreement is by far the most common used method.  This method can reveal many surprises and even create a abandoned or revoked contracts with the buyers walking upon inspections that reveal something that the homeowner and the listing agent did not know. 

  1. Unknown defects can and are revealed, in most cases.  These can range from roof problems, wood dry rot, electrical, water damage, settling, and the list goes on.  I just had a home that seemed to be in very good shape...the air conditioning unit gave a low feedback.  The buyers called a air conditioning company to review the inspectors results...that was great to get a professional opinion.  The compressor was leaking and could not be repaired.  The only choice for the home owner was to reduce the price, repair it with like equipment or have the buyers walk.  If we would have know earlier this problem existed a compressor could have been replaced without replacing the whole unit.  That would have saved the seller thousands of dollars.
  2. Should the buyer walk the material defects have to adjusted and disclosed or repaired and disclosed.

Here is an option to get home owners to do the pre-inspection...

  1. Have them pay it up front.
  2. Have them pay it at close.
  3. You pay it up front and reimburse you at close.
  4. You pay for it as part of you listing service.

I always put a home warranty on every listing.  This puts the buyers mind a ease with all the major issues covered with a nominal service call.  It does not cover everything and it does have it's draw backs but you are representing the seller.  The buyer deals with the warranty company.  I have not had any issues with our warranty company although I do know of agents that have had some issues but were of a specific gray area defect.

How do you handle the inspections?  Which do you feel offers the best option....pre-listing inspection or post PA inspection?

Anthony Stokes-Pereira
Better Homes and Gardens Rand Realty - Nanuet, NY
Realtor

Hi Gary,

I agree with you that inspection is a very important thing for sellers and buyers, great post and very informative. Good Luck!!!!!

Anthony

Sep 07, 2007 01:37 AM
Brian Schulman
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage, Lancaster PA - Lancaster, PA
Lancaster County PA RealEstate Expert 717-951-5552
Gary, I think your idea of including a home waranty with your listings is much more effective than having the seller do a pre-inspection.  Most buyers are a little leery of an inspection that was ordered by the seller rather than their own inspector.
Sep 07, 2007 01:37 AM
Ian Butler
John R Wood Realtors - Naples, FL
PA, ABR - Naples, Florida
Warranty, Warranty, Warranty. My buyer who closed 9 months ago just had a major pipe break, flooded half of his house flooded. A home warranty was proviede to him by me, which otherwise he wouldn't have done.  It saved his you know what!
Sep 07, 2007 01:43 AM
Victor DaGraca
Critical Home Inspections - Myrtle Beach, SC
Myrtle Beach Home Inspections

As a Home Inspector, I am somewhat biased, as I have a horse in this race.

Home warranty?????  Two words  "Pre-existing Condition"

Thats the out for most Home warranty companies. Go ahead Google it.

Home warranties aren't worth the paper they're written on.

A comment on your payment methods. No Home Inspector worth his salt is going to accept "payment at closing"

The only reason a seller would't want a pre-listing inspection would be due to the fact that they'd be scared of the findings.

A buyer wouldn't trust a sellers inspection?

If the buyer is educated appropriately, He would know that it was not the seller that conducted the inspection, but an un-biased, independent, professional that has no dog in the fight and has to reveal his findings regardless.

What would you rather have? the news up front or at closing time?

I guess you know by now that I'm a proponent on pre-listing inspections.

Edited to add the following:

What is a Home Warranty

Sep 07, 2007 02:10 AM
Carey A. Smith
Bloomsburg, PA
ABR, One America
My clients that have purchased the home warranty haven't had much luck with them because of the "pre-existing condition"  As for the home inspections, in my market it's the norm to have the buyer order them once the agreement has been accepted but some Realtors in my company have been throwing around the idea of suggesting to our sellers, prior to marketing the property, to have an inspection done.  Then we are ahead of the game.  It hasn't been done in our area but I think will be heading there. 
Sep 07, 2007 02:20 AM
Marchel Peterson
Results Realty - Spring, TX
Spring TX Real Estate E-Pro

Gary, in our area the buyer pays for their inspection.  Personally I have never had a buyer not get an inspection as I STRESS how important it is!!  Occassionally when I have had the listing I have had buyers that didn't (I thought they were nuts).  When that has happened I make sure the buyer's agent has them sign a form saying they were told they should get an inspection.

As far a the home warranty I also always make sure they have a 1 year warranty.  I recently had a relo seller that would not pay for it so I bought it for my client.  Typically I can get it negotiated in the contract for the seller to pay but if not then I swing for it.  I have my own company and feel that I need it for the E & O protection as much as anything else; plus I just think it is something every buyer should have for peace of mind!!

Sep 07, 2007 02:29 AM
Gary White~Grand Rapids Home Selling Pro Call: 616-821-9375
Flexit Realty "Flexible Home Selling Solutions" - Grand Rapids, MI
Real Estate Services You can Trust!
Hi Anthony, I have to agree.  I always have my clients get a home inspection.  Education levels and competence of inspectors very just like Realtors or any other profession so it pays to know something about who you recommend for this task.  The ultimate choice is the buyer that is requesting the inspection.  Thanks for the comment Anthony.
Sep 07, 2007 06:25 AM
Gary White~Grand Rapids Home Selling Pro Call: 616-821-9375
Flexit Realty "Flexible Home Selling Solutions" - Grand Rapids, MI
Real Estate Services You can Trust!
Hi Brian, a pre-inspection does make you think something might be fishy but they can always get there own, which is what I would recommend.  This just gives you a heads up on the property before being surprised.  By the way I have not done a pre-inspection either.  This has been a trend I am seeing so I thought I would put it out to the AR group and see what they are thinking.  Thanks for the comments Brian.
Sep 07, 2007 06:28 AM
Gary White~Grand Rapids Home Selling Pro Call: 616-821-9375
Flexit Realty "Flexible Home Selling Solutions" - Grand Rapids, MI
Real Estate Services You can Trust!
Hi Ian, I have had good luck with the home warranty as well, however others have had problems as I mentioned.  Thanks for your confirmation of the warranty Ian.
Sep 07, 2007 06:31 AM
Gary White~Grand Rapids Home Selling Pro Call: 616-821-9375
Flexit Realty "Flexible Home Selling Solutions" - Grand Rapids, MI
Real Estate Services You can Trust!

Hi Victor, you do have some bias but here is a few things that make and break your case.

  1. Home Warranties do have a pre-existing condition clause....I have had hot water heater replaced, furnaces repaired, certain plumbing issues handled without any hesitation by the warranty company.
  2. Down side is you can not just call anyone to do the repairs...you must use their approved service provider.
  3. Have they denied claims...not for me but I do not try to bilk or take advantage of the warranty with things that they should not cover.  I also document very well.
  4. Payment methods....I have to tell you this is your opinion...I have used the same inspector for over 5 years now and I guarantee him payment personally...because he is good and I recommend him and 80% of the time he is paid at close.  He offers a discount if paid at the time of service but full price if at close.  This is a matter of financial company stability or personal policy and has nothing to do with "worth their salt".  Sorry this is a business practice you chose not too, he offers combinations of payment methods.
  5. I agree with the seller not wanting to find out something, as I mentioned unless it is repaired it will have to be listed on the disclosures once known.  If it is repaired it still will be listed but also shown as repaired with a date.
  6. Buyers and Sellers have a natural built-in distrust...one is trying to buy as cheaply as possible and the other is trying to sell for as much as possible so the line is drawn before they ever see each other.

Thanks for your comments Victor a professionals opinion always adds benefit to everyone involved.  Most of you comments other than noted are right on, thanks.

Sep 07, 2007 06:45 AM
Gary White~Grand Rapids Home Selling Pro Call: 616-821-9375
Flexit Realty "Flexible Home Selling Solutions" - Grand Rapids, MI
Real Estate Services You can Trust!
Hi Carey, I have had a few in our offices that also have had a few problems.  Most of the issues were second hand conversations so I don't really know the details.  You have first hand knowledge and it becomes an business decision to offer or not offer the warranty based on experience.  Thanks for your comments....they add perspective Carey.
Sep 07, 2007 06:49 AM
Gary White~Grand Rapids Home Selling Pro Call: 616-821-9375
Flexit Realty "Flexible Home Selling Solutions" - Grand Rapids, MI
Real Estate Services You can Trust!
Hi Marchel, we do pretty much the same thing and E & O is a big deal to make sure you are covered.  I too offer a variety of services that strengthen my legal position including release forms when certain services are turned down.  The only way to fly....cover thy self.  Thanks for the comments Marchel.
Sep 07, 2007 06:52 AM
Kris Wales
Keller Williams Realty - Lakeside Market Center - Macomb, MI
Real Estate Blog & Homes for Sale search site, Macomb County MI
Pre-listing inspections may be a good idea for that nervous seller that wants everything perfect before putting the home on the market.  As a buyers agent though, I would still want my buyer to get their own inspection.  What one inspector may miss, another may find.
Sep 07, 2007 10:50 PM
Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel
Buyers should hire their own agent .If sellers do the inspection , they should get estimates for correcting the problems and correct the problems rather that give an allowance, because buyers think it costs more than it would, and sellers think it can be done for less.
Sep 07, 2007 11:01 PM
Victor DaGraca
Critical Home Inspections - Myrtle Beach, SC
Myrtle Beach Home Inspections

This post was timely. This coming week I have a mailing to do. I have a database of the RE agents round about and am going to be sending out a brochure explaining the pros and cons of the pre-listing inspection.

Included in the mailing, as a way to introduce myself and my services, I am including a coupon for 50% off of a pre-listing inspection.

One per agent.

I'll let you know what kind of reception it gets.

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Oct 05, 2007 06:12 AM
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Kenneth Miller
Jordan Hill Home Services, LLC - Berkley, MI

Hi, Gary.

I did a blog on this same subject not long ago.  As an inspector, my opinion is slightly biased.  There are many reasons to have a list inspection.

Having a List Inspection allows the report to show the owner what items an inspector will find.  The owner now has the option of getting repairs done themselves, often cheapre, or lowering the selling price.  If they repair it, they can provide the report and the receipts for the work.  The report may also demonstrate to a buyer that the owner is trying to be honest and realistic.  Yes, the seller may have to amend the Disclosure, but I think better to find out about problems in advance.  Less likely to kill a deal.

For the buyer, they get to see a third parties view of the home.  It should give them more information to decide if they want to see the home or put in an offer.  They can see the owner isn't trying to hide anything.  It provides something to compare their inspection report against.  If there are inconsinstancies, they know where to bring in contractors.

For the agent, the report can be used as a selling tool.  A list Inspection will also help to ensure the buyer's Disclosure is accurate. 

As far as the payment on a List Inspection, you may have a hard time doing inspection paid at closing.  As an inspector, I don't know how long the home will be on the market.  If I had a guarentee from the agent, in writing, that I would be paid at closing or net **, whichever comes first, I might accept that.

Regardless of whether there was a List Inspection performed, buyers should always have an inspection performed by a qualified Home Inspector of their choosing.

Oct 05, 2007 07:55 AM