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Why you Should Buy Your Next Home in Indian Country with a 184 Guarantee Loan

By
Real Estate Broker/Owner with CELLing Realty CalBRE #01445865

Although this is a contest entry to the The Active Rain Buyer Challenge   ( Active Rain is a network of Real Estate Agents Across the Country), the information on Home Loans for Tribal Members is correct. All of the information is correct for buying a Home in Indian Country except for the fictitious person David.

 

Native American home Loans               Native American home Loans

 

Our company, CELLing Realty, assists with Real Estate Needs not only here in the United States but Internationally as well.  Since The Reservation's are Sovereign Nations, this is another part of our services.  We can help you with Information, Qualified Lenders for the 184 Guarantee Loan, and also help you find the right Real Estate Agent to work with you, and your family, regardless of what state you live in.

Native Pride

 

Native American's are under-represented in home ownership. In recent years, Indian Gaming has given many Tribal Members more buying power, but many do not meet convential lending criteria.This is especially true if you are trying to buy, or refinance on Tribal Trust or Individual Trust Land. In addition, many Real Estate Agents, and lenders do not understand the process's they have to go through with the BIA and HUD. We have been assisting buyers and sellers on Tribal Trust Land and know the process involved. We have helped promote Native Pride by assisting  Native American families with their Real Estate needs.

Here is a link that you can go to and see if your Tribe qualifies, and if you have to buy a home on the REZ, or can buy anywhere in Indian Country. This is a good Loan, with no Mortgage Insurance (extra money you pay each month  that isn't a part of the loan).

http://www.hud.gov/utilities/intercept.cfm?/offices/pih/ih/homeownership/184/tribal_list.pdf  (A list of the Participating Tribes) 

 

Native American home Loans             Native American home Loans

I received a call from a prospective buyer that had been recently discharged from the Army, and was looking to buy  a condo in our area.  We started talking, and I asked  him, his name is David, some questions about the type of home he was looking for, and how he found me; was it from a particular home he saw, the Internet, or one of my mailings.

I spend a lot of time Marketing, and it is helpful to know where the buyer found me, then I know which area they are looking in. It turns out David found us by a flier posted on the Post Office Bulletin board.

Here is my open letter to David.  I am making this public as the  information might give you and your current REALTOR more alternatives in finding a home (if you are a Tribal Member) anywhere in the United States. Currently there are 184 Tribes that are eligible for the program.

Native American home Loans         Native American home Loans

                                         Land In Indian Country across the United States

Indian Country in Northern Washington State  Pauite Country in Nevada     Indian Country in Wyoming

Hello David,

I enjoyed our conversation this afternoon, and am sure that we can assist you.  It was nice to talk to another Veteran, and someone that might want to move to the Whitewater/Cabazon area.   I know this area well, and I am sure that we can find something for you here. 

You mentioned that you are enrolled as a Tribal Member of Morongo, and this just opened up a lot of possibilities for you.  Morongo has been expanding for the past several years, and just a couple months ago they signed a new agreement with the State allowing them to expand even further.

I know you are working with the ABC Security Firm, and as you stated you want to find another job, but don't quit yet, or take on any debt at this point. I made a few calls, and with your current job, no debt, and money in the bank, it sounds like you meet the qualifications for the following loan, for Native Americans and Alaskan Natives. 

Home Loans for Tribal Members in Indian Country are available and the Section 184 Guarantee Loan is specifically for Native Americans to buy a home, or land, on the REZ, or near it.  This program  has a lot more flexibility than conventional loans, including the VA loan. I have a list of lenders you can call, and am including 3 local ones for you. 

 native American Real Estate Loan

   Canyon National Bank in Palm Springs-(760) 327-3334

   Directors Residential Lending in Rancho Cucamonga (909) 481-4599

* General Mortgage Corporation in San Marcos 1-800-454-498

native American Real Estate Loan

The 184 Guaranteed Loan requires an Individual Tribal Member to qualify in 3 areas:

1.  Credit History- A minimum of 12 months of good credit, or no bad credit. Since you don't have any debts it appears you meet this criteria.

2.  Income-to-debt Qualifying- Must submit 24 months history of income-this could be Gaming Revenues, or employment.  You didn't mention if you received any benefits from your Tribes' enterprises, but even if you didn't, your W-2's from the Military, and pay check stubs from ABC Security will work.

3.  Assets-It sounds like you have enough for this.  If not you can receive the money from a family member, or possibly a down payment assistance program. This program is nice because it doesn't require you to have the money in the bank for a certain length of time. 

 native American Real Estate Loan

I am including a couple of links for you, these should not only allow you to see if you qualify, but give you an idea of what's available in our area if this is where you would like to relocate.  If you decide to move to another area, that is in Indian Country, we will be happy to assist you there as well.

http://www.hud.gov/utilities/intercept.cfm?/offices/pih/ih/homeownership/184/tribal_list.pdf A list of Participating Tribes

www.WhitewaterTimes.com We have several Homes for sale in this area, and you can click on the link of Interest button to see information on schools, entertainment, etc.

http://www.morongo.com/  this is the official site for the Morongo Band of Mission Indians. Only part of it is currently working, but you can still get some information.

http://www.indiancountry.com/author.cfm?id=54 Indian Country News

http://www.nps.gov/history/nagpra/DOCUMENTS/ClaimsMAP.htm Map and Information on Indian Land

 

Thank you David, and I hope you find this information useful. I am looking forward to our meeting on Tuesday.  Please feel free to call me with any questions you might have in the meantime.

Respectfully,

Kathy                                                                         Morongo Casino Resort and Spa

Kathy McGraw-Broker/Owner                                                                         
CELLing Realty & Whitewater Times©
137 N. San Gorgonio, Banning, CA
(951) 849-8600 fax:(760) 293-9466

 http://cellingrealty.com/  

 

Call me Kathy McGraw for homes in Indian Country

Christopher Walker
Mission Grove Realty Inc. - Hemet, CA
Local Broker and Realtor - Hemet & San Jacinto, CA
Ecellent post to group from a lending perspective! The 184 program...especially now. truly is a great program for our Native American Community members..
Sep 10, 2007 05:37 AM
Kathy McGraw
CELLing Realty - White Water, CA
Riverside County CA Real Estate

Ann,

Thank you.......and yes, contests don't inspire me......But I did learn from this one, and that is a big plus..another lesson, and I also just learned that I should do something called hot links...:) :)  So, all in all a success...imparted some info, and gained some back!!!

Sep 10, 2007 05:41 AM
Kathy McGraw
CELLing Realty - White Water, CA
Riverside County CA Real Estate

Christopher,

Thank you for commenting.....yes, your area and mine, and half the United States can sure use this program to benefit this part of the population. And the best part is they can buy land, a home, refinance, or fix up their current property without the restrictions of our traditional lending programs.

Sep 10, 2007 05:46 AM
Colleen Graves
LandAmerica Commonwealth - Escrow Division - Banning, CA

Kathy,

Great info and interesting blog (as always) !!

Colleen

Sep 10, 2007 07:33 AM
Bill Roberts
Brooks and Dunphy Real Estate - Oceanside, CA
"Baby Boomer" Retirement Planner

Kathy, do indians get to own the land when they they "buy" on tribal trust lands like in Palm springs?

Bill Roberts

Sep 10, 2007 08:00 AM
Ann Cummings
RE/MAX Shoreline - NH and Maine - Portsmouth, NH
Portsmouth NH Real Estate Preferrable Agent

Hi Kathy - what an interesting approach this post is!  Great info for the buyer to consider, and the links are helpful as well.

Good luck in the contest!
Ann

Sep 10, 2007 09:07 AM
Kathy McGraw
CELLing Realty - White Water, CA
Riverside County CA Real Estate

Colleen- Thanks, and double thanks as I know you are one of the "lurkers"  :) :)

Bill-It is a little complicated on Reservation property.  If it is FEE land the answer is yes (not in a Trust), but if it is in a Trust then no, they don't own the land......there is a process, Family, Tribe, then it has to fall out of Trust and revert back to FEE before a buyer actually owns the land. this is the very condensed version.....I don't want to make a post of my answer, so bottom line is "It depends." :) :)

Ann-I like how you put that-a true diplomat.  See I knew I should never enter a contest, or write anything after Sally......I loved her entry.  But as you said this was a different spin, I did give my 3 properties, but I couldn't make it fit like the others......But the feathers are as Colleen stated "pretty" :) :)

Thanks for your comments.

Sep 10, 2007 10:38 AM
Ann Cummings
RE/MAX Shoreline - NH and Maine - Portsmouth, NH
Portsmouth NH Real Estate Preferrable Agent

Kathy - your entry is wonderful just as you wrote it!  How each entrant interprets the guidelines and rules is up to them, and I thought yours was really interesting. 

And YES YOU SHOULD enter contests!!
Ann

Sep 10, 2007 11:05 AM
Kathy McGraw
CELLing Realty - White Water, CA
Riverside County CA Real Estate

Toni B. :)

Thank you.

Sep 10, 2007 11:05 AM
Kathy McGraw
CELLing Realty - White Water, CA
Riverside County CA Real Estate

OH Ann, are you sure you're not in cahoots with Sally??????  I just read her post on entering the other 2 contests....but at least they will be just thinking, and they don't have any guidelines including "pretty."  :) :) 

Seriously, thank you, I have gotten some good feedback,both publicly and privately, and being new to blogging I really appreciate it.  Thank you Ann,

And thank you Sally and "others" :) :)

Sep 10, 2007 11:11 AM
Brad Andersohn
Retired Executive Director of Education at eXp - Boulder Creek, CA
ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876
Kathy - great entry for the contest, good luck to you, enjoyed your post! B-)
Sep 10, 2007 07:01 PM
Tom Plant
WINEormous.com - Murrieta, CA
Kathy - Chock full of great information. I would love to get together with you next time I'm out in your neck of the woods. Best of luck in the contest.
Sep 11, 2007 02:25 AM
Kathy McGraw
CELLing Realty - White Water, CA
Riverside County CA Real Estate

Brad-

Thank you.  And since you are an Escrow person...I didn't mention them, but I haven't found very many Escrow people that are that familiar with the Master Leases, working with the BIA, or the process involved.  One guy in Palm Springs assured me he knew about this, but when tit came to tit for tat....he dropped the ball.  Do you know how to do these Escrows?

Tom-

Anytime.....but go on here and look for Corina McGraw, she is closer to you, and has a ton of resources (people) in the Pechanga, and La Jolla areas.  This was her degree from UCR.

Sep 11, 2007 03:21 AM
Kathy McGraw
CELLing Realty - White Water, CA
Riverside County CA Real Estate

Corina,

Thank you, that's a compliment.  Oh, and by the way, that's 'My Baby"........:) :)

Sep 11, 2007 05:57 AM
Ashley Drake Gephart
Drake Intel Group - Albuquerque, NM
Kathy this is a great spin on the buyer. Very interesting information about buying tribal owned land and the financing needed.
Sep 12, 2007 06:26 AM
Kathy McGraw
CELLing Realty - White Water, CA
Riverside County CA Real Estate

Ashley-

Thank you....it is hard to fit my work into a "traditional box" thus this spin......I figured if I did one of the land here, or the International it wouldn't work as well.....:) :)  Anyway, the info is good info, and in your area there are sure to be people that could use it. 

 

Sep 12, 2007 09:48 AM
Margaret Woda
Long & Foster Real Estate, Inc. - Crofton, MD
Maryland Real Estate & Military Relocation
Great information.  It's so cool to learn about all these different markets through ActiveRain!  By the way, I see you're on the verge of a point milestone (35,000 points), so congratulations in case I miss it when you get there.
Sep 12, 2007 10:52 AM
Kathy McGraw
CELLing Realty - White Water, CA
Riverside County CA Real Estate

Margaret,

I agree, there's a lot of information I too have learned here on AR.  A milestone, what milestone, maybe I better take a look :) :)  thank you very much for that comment.

Sep 12, 2007 12:09 PM
Monika McGillicuddy
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Verani Realty - Hampstead, NH
Southern NH & the Seacoast Area

Kathy...I really enjoyed reading your post about Indian country. What a tough contest this has been. Thank god I don't have to judge...so many great entries.  Good Luck.

 

Sep 17, 2007 09:22 AM
Kathy McGraw
CELLing Realty - White Water, CA
Riverside County CA Real Estate

Monika,

Thank you.  I am with you in that there are many great entries in the contest, and also that I do not have to judge.  Buyers are very lucky to have so many great agents, and areas, around the country to choose from.

Sep 17, 2007 12:03 PM