What Does SB931 Mean to Your Seller? . . . It Means That They're a FHA Buyer!

By
Mortgage and Lending with iLoan - NMLS ID#4474 NMLS 79048

 

California has taken a clever step towards opening doors for
 homeownership.  A primary intention of this bill no doubt was to flush the market of negative equity and aid struggling homeowners.  It has an added benefit of streamlining continued homeownership for those who will do a short sale after January 1, 2011 by making a difficult FHA loan approval that much easier to get done.

                Buying a home after a short sale has been possible through FHA for some time now.  While many investors are willing to purchase and securitize these loans, few have been originated because there are two difficult hurdles in the origination cycle.  The first has been proving that the payoff of the lender being sold short served as satisfaction in full.  In most cases in CA, I’ve been able to do this for buyers who did a short sale paying off purchase money mortgages citing California Code of Civil Procedure 580b.  Sometimes, astute short sale specialists (Realtors) would manage to get this type of document through the short sale negotiations and that has worked.  In other cases, they were arduous processes of getting a letter from the previous lien holder stating that they wouldn’t pursue a deficiency judgment. This didn’t always work but some persistent buyers were able to get them with the help of a lawyer. 

                Thanks to the work of Senator Denise Moreno Ducheny, clearing this hurdle in CA should end up being a piece of cake.  As a former legislative staffer, I can attest that even the most straight forward pieces of legislation can be very difficult to get through the legislative cycle.  Her constituents should be proud.

                The second hurdle in buying a home after a short sale is dealing with the FHA condition that stipulates that the buyer cannot, “take advantage of declining market conditions, and purchase, at a reduced price, a similar or superior property within a reasonable commuting distance.”  This condition remains vague but penetrable.  Getting past it takes considerable coordination between the Realtor and Mortgage Loan Officer.  There isn’t a very graceful way of doing this other than having a well trained Mortgage Loan Officer pre-screen the list of properties that a buyer would like to have shown by their Realtor.  This list must be scrubbed against this FHA guideline with the buyer’s original hardship (Letter of Explanation) in mind.  If any of the properties even come close to resembling a similar or superior property within a reasonable commuting distance, an underwriter will kill the deal.

                Call me naïve but I have come to believe the following:

 

  • Very few people do short sales simply to take advantage of the market
  • Most sellers in a short sale have very good personal narratives/reasons for having to do a short sale
  • Most people doing a short sale greatly care about their credit and will go to great lengths to preserve it
  • Most people doing a short sale want to be homeowners and not renters
  • Realtors facilitating short sales will be one of the main reasons that our housing market recovers
  • Getting people who have done short sales back into homeownership will be key to a healthy housing sector (whether they wait 3 years or don’t wait at all)

 

All of these conclusions, if subscribed to, point to an inevitable conclusion.  The vast majority of persons doing a short sale are also buyers.  In many cases (far more than assumed), this can be immediate.  In other cases; on a 3 year track.  Understanding of how the short sale process and evolving legislation interact with FHA’s requirements will be essential in this regard.

 

Posted by

Charles Dailey - Branch Manager, Loan Officer, Certified Military Housing Specialist - iLoan - NMLS ID# 79048 -  612.234.7283 - charles@charlesdailey.com


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Comments (18)

Steven Brand
Hancock Mtg Partners - Stillwater, MN
NMLS# 261849

Great post Charles.  (13 out of 35 total blogs featured?  You put up some QUALITY stuff, partner)

Now we need to see other States jump on this bandwagon and understand that we know how to close loans for people after a SHORT SALE.  Can we get some info to Lori Swanson???

 

Nov 27, 2010 09:12 AM
Patrick Harfst
Realty Executives - Phoenix AZ - Gilbert, AZ

Charles,

Good job here... The solution to the long-term problem will almost certainly come from smart folks making the tough, but logical choices. It is curious to see that a little bit of common sense has sprouted at the state government level... You have at least a few sharp pols there! Now to spread the word, and hope that (maybe) FHA itself will adopt some of that all-to-rare Common Sense... 

Nov 27, 2010 11:29 AM
Charles Dailey
iLoan - NMLS ID#4474 - Saint Paul, MN

Steven - Thanks.  I don't write very often because I think most of what's on my mind is usually garbage but I try to make it count when I do.  Funny you should mention other states.  I just posted on MN and am going to be hitting this topic on the radio show tomorrow morning.

Patrick - FHA is the only lender (well, insurer anyway) with any common sense towards short sales.  They'll let you buy immediately after a short sale.  Getting that letter stating that the sale served as payment in full (no deficiency judgment) has been the tough part of getting them done.  With this bill, they should start getting easy in CA.  I just wish other states would follow their lead.  You're absolutely right about spreading the word though.  Sometimes it seems like nobody knows this stuff is possible.

Nov 27, 2010 11:50 AM
Travis Wichmann
Amerifirst Financial NMLS # 305427 - Phoenix, AZ

Thank you for posting your thoughts Charles- We need more Qualified Loan Officers speaking up on Active Rain.

Nov 27, 2010 02:41 PM
Tni LeBlanc, Realtor®, J.D.
Mint Properties, Lic. #01871795 - Santa Maria, CA
Tenacious Tni (805) 878-9879

I hate to see so many good folks that are barred from the market for so long after a short sale.  We need some of these folks to buy houses.  If their credit looks great if you eliminate just the short sale I think they should be given a second chance a little quicker.

Congrats on the well deserved feature on this topic.

Nov 27, 2010 03:12 PM
Phil & Celeste Pafford
PaffordHomes.com, Corona CA - Corona, CA
Corona Short Sale Broker

Torn here... as a realtor, I obviously want as many people to own a home as possible, but if the consequences of a short sale are eased, you "will" get more short sales out here in Southern CA.  If you reward a behavior, you get more of it, if you punish a behavior, you get less... just the way it is.  ;-)

Nov 27, 2010 05:09 PM
Tim Lorenz
TIM LORENZ - Elite Home Sales Team - Mission Viejo, CA
949 874-2247

Torn

Well done and it is a bit tricky but we here in South Orange County have had a lot of short sales and people are begining to have a little hope that it is not the end of the world.

Nov 27, 2010 05:29 PM
Kate Bourland
Marketing with Kate - Redding, CA
Onlilne Marketing Mobile Marketing

This is a great post.  I need to find more information on this bill.  I thought that it also helped to keep people in their homes by helping them avoid forreclosure.  I too find that most people do not short sale to game the system. 

Nov 27, 2010 05:42 PM
Melissa Zavala
Broadpoint Properties - Escondido, CA
Broker, Escondido Real Estate, San Diego County

Senate Bill 931 will be a welcome relief come January 1 to homeowners who need to sell in a short sale. There's a two year waiting period on purchasing, right? So, we will probably see the first of these in 2013. That's what I am thinking.

Nov 28, 2010 01:42 AM
Michael-Edward Cruz
Pacific Sotheby's International Realty - Newport Coast, CA
Michael-Edward Cruz - Newport Coast & Bay Front

Thank you for sharing and thanks for the link. There are so many details when dealing with short sales that we need to share with each other more to help make the process better for all. 

Nov 28, 2010 05:17 AM
Elizabeth Weintraub Sacramento Realtor Top 1%
RE/MAX Gold - Sacramento, CA
Put 40 years of experience to work for you

SB 931 is great for short sale sellers in California because it protects short sale sellers from ramifications regarding first-position purchase money as well as hard-money first loans. But it doesn't go into effect until January 1, and it has no bearing on the seller's ability to buy another home. Of course, FHA guidelines say a short sale seller can buy again immediately if they are current, but try finding a lender to fund it. Most lender overlays say the seller has to move 600 miles away to qualify as an FHA buyer after a short sale, which covers only relos. So, in my opinion, it doesn't help much. But if you've got a line on a lender let us know.

Nov 28, 2010 07:02 AM
Lorraine or Loretta Kratz
Crescent Moon Realty, Inc. & Land N Sea Auctions. - San Marcos, CA
Certified Negotiation Consultants

Time will tell. I am always cautious about making predictions as to whether or not the real estate market will be better because.

Nov 28, 2010 07:13 AM
Charles Dailey
iLoan - NMLS ID#4474 - Saint Paul, MN

Travis – Thanks and I love your “description” in your profile.

Tni – Congratulations on your feature as well.  It was hilarious.  I wish I could write like that.

Phil & Celeste – I agree with you in that there are moral hazard concerns but there will still be tough consequences for short sales.  Steep credit score drops, potential taxable events and waiting periods on most types of financing are consequences.  Only a portion of people doing short sales are eligible to buy homes immediately and from my experience, they are not undeserving.  They worked hard to stay current with their loans and had real reasons for having to do the short sale.  Most will have to wait though. 

Tim – Well that’s awesome to hear.  Orange County took it hard.

Kate – Thanks.  I’m not familiar with the whole bill.  I just focused in like a laser on the section applicable to short sales and deficiencies because these FHA loans after short sales have become an accidental niche of mine and it was highly applicable.

Melissa – Steven Brand just wrote a good post that summarizes waiting periods for bankruptcy, foreclosure and short sales.  It is possible for there to be NO WAITING PERIOD on short sales.  See Buying a Home After a Short Sale.

Michael – Agreed.  And share the right information.

Elizabeth – It definitely does have a bearing on a short seller’s ability to buy a new home.  The statute specifically states, “Written consent of the holder of the first deed of trust or first mortgage to that sale shall obligate that holder to accept the sale proceeds as full payment” and this is a specific condition for Mortgagee Letter 09-52 and has in the past been a difficult loan condition to deal with.  This new statutes makes that condition a foregone conclusion.  As far as finding lender that does them, I just look in the mirror.  I fund them and have 3 different investors that buy them from me.  In fact, I just funded one of these last Tuesday for a client you facilitated a short sale for on Melbury Way in Antelope.  The 600 mile overlay is not something I’ve ever heard of nor is it applicable to Mortgagee Letter 09-52.  FHA won’t allow someone to buy a home that is similar or superior to the previous home that is also within a reasonable distance.  They can buy a home next door to the one they just sold if it isn’t similar or superior.  If you’re having trouble finding a lender to do this, my CA license is CA-DOC79048 and you can use my blog and that Melbury Way seller as a reference.

Lorraine or Loretta – I’ll roll the dice on this.  I don’t see a meaningful downside.

Erica – That’s always great to hear.  

Nov 28, 2010 09:45 AM
Christine Donovan
Donovan Blatt Realty - Costa Mesa, CA
Broker/Attorney 714-319-9751 DRE01267479 - Costa M

Charles - I can see the potential issues with the short sale rules.  However, here in Orange County, CA where median values are off 40%, a person who couldn't afford a similar house at previous values and interest rates might be able to afford that same home at today's price and rates. 

Nov 28, 2010 10:58 AM
Momentum Realty
North Orange County CA Real Estate Specialists - Yorba Linda, CA
Orange County CA Real Estate Agent

Hey Charles,

Great points you make. Yes, I can't imagine anyone doing a "strategic short sale", so they can get a better property, not with how difficult and stressful they are! Although, if they purchased their current home within the last few years, it would be hard for them to NOT purchase a similar or better home, for less money, especially here in CA. I'm sure it's tempting to a lot of people.

Thx for the though provoking post,

Gina

Nov 28, 2010 11:26 AM
Charles Dailey
iLoan - NMLS ID#4474 - Saint Paul, MN

Christine – I’m sure it would be tempting for people in Orange to buy a similar or superior home after a short sale using this program.  It wouldn’t work though.  For instance in my most recent transaction, the old home was new construction purchased at 411,000 (more square footage, bedrooms, bathrooms, nicer amenities, etc.).  The one that he bought at 225,000 was built in 1966 (and it needed plenty of updating in the interior).  If he were to buy a similar property to the one he had before, it would cost 300,000 plus (33% more than the subject).  In this case, it did work because it wasn’t a same or superior property.  If someone were to essentially buy the same type of home (or superior) in the same general area that would be seen as taking advantage of the market and the loan would get declined.

Gina – I’ve only had 2 people purchase a nicer home with this loan profile.  But in both of those situations, there was a job change and the new employer was some distance away.  In one of the two, it was a divorce situation and that made default eminent.  In the other, there was a 4 person family in a 1 bedroom house (yikes).  Remember though, the same or superior home within a reasonable commuting distance rule does apply but whether it costs more or less that the original cost of the sold home is immaterial.  Cost is not part of the rule.

Nov 29, 2010 12:56 AM
Sharon Alters
Coldwell Banker Vanguard Realty - 904-673-2308 - Fleming Island, FL
Realtor - Homes for Sale Fleming Island FL

Charles, this is very interesting information and worth getting the word out here in Florida for our legislators to consider.

Nov 29, 2010 08:48 AM

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