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Hiding Behind The As-Is Veil?

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Real Estate Agent with Coldwell Banker Premier VA DPOR #0225171903

Hiding Behind The As-Is Veil?

To Disclose or Not Disclose, That IS The Question

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My clients fell in love with a bank-owned property - what's not to love?  A unique home sited on the Shenandoah River with gorgeous views.  The bank addendums provided my buyers with an inspection period and we proceeded with our inspections, then everything started to sprial downward.

The home inspector brought up some issues and questioned if a final inspection had been completed.  The septic inspection determined the system is not functioning properly - the prior owner had a bon fire next to the above ground tanks for the system and melted them. 

After the home inspector's comments we wanted to verify all inspections were completed on the property - after  visiting the local health department we learned that the system had been inspected and did pass.  Of course, once they learned of the damage that has occurred, they quickly provided us with a repair permit.  Then we visited the local building department - interesting, all inspections were done up until the finals -- they failed, and instead of making any corrections and having a re-inspection the prior owner simply moved in and neglected to ever get final inspections, much less an occupancy permit.  (Kind of scary that no one checks on this kind of stuff...isn't it?) 

Obviously, after learning that there were such issues to deal with, buyers could not obtain financing prior to them being corrected.  Think the seller (bank) would make any effort to correct any of them?  Nope.  All they wanted was a decision from my clients as to whether or not they would proceed with the transaction, As-Is, Where-Is.  All I wanted to know was how the heck did the seller (bank) ever let the prior owner ever roll their construction loan in to permanent financing without an occupancy permit...I've always had to provide one of those on a new construction. 

In accordance with Virginia law, agents must disclose all known material facts related to the property or concerning the transaction of which the agent has actual knowledge.  Unless there is some loop-hole in the law, I don't see how they can get around this.

We just checked the MLS today -- think there is any mention anywhere about the fact the property has a septic that isn't functioning properly or there is no occupancy permit?  Nope, not even a note to call the agent prior to writing an offer.  

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Julie Moorhead
Edina Realty, affiliate of Berkshire Hathaway - Annandale, MN
A Love of Selling Homes

Hi Craig,

I sure hate these bank deals. The banks get out of this by citing the Sellers Disclosure Election - never lived in the property. The REO listing agents think that clears them also. It does not. A failing septic is a material fact that affects the buyers intended use of the property and should be disclosed by the listing agent. I would share that fact in an email to the agent. (not that it helps but we need to speak up when we see something wrong).

Are the other hand, the bank is just plain ignorant of the market conditions. We recently had a bank turn down an inspection addendum that asked for the water heater in a 100 year old house and some of the pipes to be fixed for $3,000. The bank turned it down and our buyer walked. The listing agent then reduced the price by $12,000 the next week. Where is the sense in that?

Listing agents need to take some responsibility in these REO properties.

Dec 07, 2010 09:45 AM
Kellie Place
CENTURY 21 Chesser Realty - Oneonta, NY
Upstate NY's Real Estate & Land Expert

What a story! And I can certainly vouch for your frustration that deficiencies, once known, are not being mentioned or even hinted at by the listing agents. Nothing like playing by the book.

 

Dec 07, 2010 09:46 AM
Kristi DeFazio
RE/MAX Advantage - Colorado Springs, CO
Colorado Springs Rea lEstate 719-459-5468

That is so frustrating. I does seem wrong that the seller (bank) is not disclosing this since it is a material fact.

Dec 07, 2010 09:47 AM
Craig Alexander
Coldwell Banker Premier - Front Royal, VA
Associate Broker in Virginia

Julie - You are so right.  A material fact must be disclosed - or fix the problem so it is no longer a deficiency.  I just hope the listing agent makes anyone that writes an offer very aware of the problems. 

Kellie - A story that I hope we never have to relive.  (Yeah, right.)  Listing agents need to remember they are not exempt from the laws - no matter what the big banks may think.

Kristi - I agree 100% - however, I question whether or not the listing agent even realizes they have a duty to make a buyer aware of the known deficiencies. 

Dec 08, 2010 02:45 AM