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Mainland Lenders vs Local Lenders

By
Real Estate Agent with CENTURY 21 All Islands

I just need to air this out in public.

Here in Honolulu, we often deal with new arrivals from the mainland, and God Bless Them, sometimes they are already pre-approved and are ready to buy their new home. Those of us who have seen this before are aware that this is also a double edged sword. The first problem is what almost all mainland clients face, and that is the inevitable "sticker shock," unless the new arrival hails from San Francisco, Los Angeles or like-priced areas. In these cases, the sticker shock is much less severe than for someone from say, Oklahoma City.

The next problem is the one that has my knickers in a wad. The pre-approved borrower is using - you guessed it - a mainland lender. In the best case scenario, the lender has a branch office here, and that will hopefully get the future transaction all the way from pre-approval to closing; caveat, operational term here is hopefully. The truth is, no matter how one might be tempted to sugar coat it, the mainland lenders always find a way to complicate the transaction. This usually occurs the day before, if not the day of recording, when the underwriter stops everything due to some sudden manifestation of an unknown factor.  Some big bugaboo suddenly drops on their unsuspecting head and knocks them senseless. What monstrocity is it that suddenly catches these distant underwriters so unwary? Would you believe me if I told you that it is usually an item that most agents had made sure they had addressed early in the dealings, so that this exact scenario would be avoided. Some of these deal killing items are, in no particular order of occurence: 1.)Owner/Occupant ratios 2.)Mixed use zoning 3.)Condominium Declarations

Sometimes the client wants to stay with their mainland lending agent for any of a number of reasons. No amount of logic, pursuasion or threats will get them to seek counsel of a local lender. The really frustrating factor is that the agent can try as he may to have the lending agent cover all the bases with the underwriters, and if the lending agent is also on the mainlaind, about all you can do is make sure that you have provided in your purchase contract for at least a two week extension on your closing date. Once the closing is missed, time lines can be thrown out of whack and the buyers could not only lose their earnest money deposits, but the entire purchase could be put into jeopardy.

When this happens, of course everyone starts pointing fingers at everyone else. As the Buyer's Agent, you will not appear sexy to your client if you raise an eyebrow and in a raspy voice whisper "I told you so." The best advice I was ever given is that if you are the buyers agent involved with a mainland lender, you cannot be satisfied with asking the lender "How is our loan coming" which will always be given the response "Just Fine!", but you must be more pro-active, and constantly ask the lender to give you a line by line item report of exactly what information and steps have been completed, what next steps need to be taken, and what is happening on items that were due to be completed but are still being resolved. In other words, you must make a nuisance of yourself. Even then be prepared to have the bottom drop out right at the end. At least when it does, there is still a chance the deal may be saved, as most likely the problem may have already been addressed previously, and need only be re-examined by the underwriter.

Randy L. Prothero
eXp Realty - Hollister, MO
Missouri REALTOR, (808) 384-5645

Wow Mike!  You stole my thunder.  I was planning to write this blog or something just like it.

Ditto, Ditto, Ditto.

I hear mainland lender and my stomach sinks.  I have been quite fortunate in persuading my buyers to avoid the pain and misery.  Unfortunately you do not have influence on the otherside of the transaction.

Our contracts are different than they are used to.  The few big name lenders from the mainland I have had experience with, in every single case either costed the buyer the deal or made it the most painful thing they ever thought of doing.

If the buyer was going through pain, you know where the seller and the Realtors were.

The worst I saw recently was a transaction one of the agents in my office had.  She represented the seller. 

  • They had a full price appraisal from the appraiser the lender (CW) selected.
  • The seller moved out of state.
  • The closing deadline came and went.
  • The closing extension came and went. 
  • They agreed to another extension, it came and went.
  • The loan officer gave them several dates that they promised the final loan approval.  All came and went.
  • The buyer was living in a hotel waiting for the closing. The seller would not agree to an early occupancy due to the flakey lender.
  • The phone call finally came in from the loan officer.  We have a problem.  The underwriter has rejected the comps on the appraisal that was done 5 weeks ago.  He has lowered it from just under $500,000 by $80,000.

This just one example of why I pray that no one asks for a mainland lender.

Nov 13, 2006 09:02 PM
Michael S. Mackey
CENTURY 21 All Islands - Mililani, HI
REALTOR ABR, CRS, GRI, RSPS
Hey Randy, I think you should go ahead and post this response (at least the content) as a blog. Getting the word out may help these Dodos wake up and start getting their act together... I know, who am I kidding! By the way , thanks for posting that one about re-doing the signs.
Nov 14, 2006 02:05 AM