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Can I Change My "Bid" on that Short Sale? Prices Have Dropped!

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Real Estate Agent with Humphrey Home Connections Realty, Reno, Nevada

One of the sad realities of short sales is that they are not short. Although the odd one may be approved quickly, it is still more common for three or more months to elapse before the bank responds. In a market like ours in Northern Nevada, prices may have continued to drift downwards as those months rolled by. So it is not surprising to have buyers like you raise this question if they suspect that their once-upon-a-time screamTurtleing deal is now merely a fair buy.

Unfortunately, the answer is "no" or at least "not now". Since it's been awhile, let's review the sequence of events we went through to get to this point. First we found the home you wanted to purchase. We wrote an offer, negotiated it with the sellers, and ultimately entered into an agreement with them for you to purchase the house at certain price and terms. At this point, the period for making offers or "bids" including negotiating the purchase price is done; we are "in contract". "But wait", you ask, "if the bank hasn't agreed, there is no contract!" Not true! You are confusing contracts with contingencies.

The agreement you signed contains many terms that you are obligated to abide by. Many of these terms are contingencies. Contingencies are occurrences that must take place in order for the contract to continue to be valid and progress to completion. For example on the seller's side, there is a contingency stating that the lien holder must agree to accept less than they are owed. If that contingency is not met, then the sellers will be unable to sell you the house. They can cancel the contract without penalty because they specified that it was contingent upon this event.  

There are also contingencies on our side. Your "performance" or following through to complete the Into the shredderpurchase is contingent upon several things. One of those is a limit on the length of time the seller has to get approval from his lender. Once that time has passed, you can cancel without penalty. Notice I said "cancel", not "renegotiate the price". However, we also have a contingency that the home has to appraise at or above your purchase price. If home prices have dropped as much as you imagine, and the home does not appraise, this is the point in time when you have an opportunity to renegotiate on price.

So the answer to your question is: if you just want out of the agreement to purchase the house, it is possible that we can arrange that if enough time has elapsed since the contract date. If, on the other hand, you still want the house, you just want it for less money, you have two options. One is to wait for the bank to respond and your lender to order an appraisal, then see where it comes in. The other is to cancel the contract now and then submit a new offer at a lower price. The latter is a risky maneuver that will likely not be well received by the seller. They have already forwarded the current contract along with a boatload of financial data to their lender. A new contract will require starting all over with that process. They may prefer to put it back on the market. So you should be prepared to lose the house if you try this route and I don't recommend it unless prices have dropped substantially.

 

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Dick & Sandy Beals
Wilmington Real Estate 4U Wilmington, NC - Wilmington, NC

Good info!  I think you laid it all out pretty well.  What do you think the buyer will do?

Dick Beals

Dec 30, 2010 07:15 AM
Linda Humphrey
Humphrey Home Connections Realty, Reno, Nevada - Reno, NV
CRS, Broker/Owner HHC Realty

Thanks! In the instance that prompted this post, after my explanation the buyer elected to cancel. He follows the market pretty closely and felt strongly that prices had dropped in the area. I hated making that call!

Dec 30, 2010 07:23 AM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Linda:  What a great post!  I had this scenario on a Short Sale Listing.  It was after the stock market crashed that we got approval for the sales price and the Buyer countered the amount of money he'd lost in the crash by taking it off the sales price.  The Sellers, with an approval in hand, booted that Buyer and moved on with the next buyer.  They were afraid that if they entered into a counter offer with the bank and the market declined again, the Buyer would do it again. 

Dec 30, 2010 08:04 AM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

FEATURED IN THE GROUP:  BARTENDER, MAKE IT A DOUBLE.

Dec 30, 2010 08:06 AM
Linda Humphrey
Humphrey Home Connections Realty, Reno, Nevada - Reno, NV
CRS, Broker/Owner HHC Realty

Chris - It is remarkable the things buyers want to drag into their decisions that have absolutely nothing to do with the value of the property. As if the stock market or the buyer's losses had anything to do with your listing's market value! Your sellers were smart to move on, tigers don't change their stripes (or is it leopards and spots?).

Thanks so much for the feature, I am really excited about that!

Dec 30, 2010 08:36 AM
Marcy Moyer
eXp Realty of California Silicon Valley Probate, Trust, and Investment Sales - Mountain View, CA
Probate, Trust, and Investment Specialist

Linda,

Excellent explanation.  I have had this happen after inspections are done, if they are done before bank approval as well.

Dec 30, 2010 01:17 PM
Linda Humphrey
Humphrey Home Connections Realty, Reno, Nevada - Reno, NV
CRS, Broker/Owner HHC Realty

Marcy - That's interesting! The argument for doing inspections before bank approval is that it supposedly shows the buyers committment to the transaction. Not in your case I guess.

Dec 30, 2010 02:02 PM
Anna "Banana" Kruchten
Retired Broker/Owner - Phoenix, AZ
602-380-4886

Buyers can walk in AZ with our short sale addendum in place.  Normally we ask for at least a 60 to 90 day non-refundable earnest deposit to at least give us a chance to get the banks to respond. But if the bank doesn't respond in a timely manner (which is more often than not) the buyer can walk. And in many areas the prices have dropped yet more.....If I were the buyer I am sure I wouldn't pay more than market price.There are so many homes on the market here a buyer can easily find another suitable home.  If I were the seller of course I would hope the buyer would hang in there - but to expect them to pay more than the market will bear - not so much. 

Just had one go south this week where the bank was 4+ months in the process and still no answer.  The sellers questioned many times 'why' the buyers were still hanging in there?  After 4+months the buyers had had enough.  And the sellers totally understood.  Needless to say they're not happy at all with the bank they had chosen......what a shock these days.  (naught)

Dec 30, 2010 02:47 PM
Linda Humphrey
Humphrey Home Connections Realty, Reno, Nevada - Reno, NV
CRS, Broker/Owner HHC Realty

Hi Anna Banana - We have a short sale addendum here in Nevada too. Probably pretty similar to yours. The original version only committed the buyer for 30 days, which is clearly inadequate to accomplish much of anything unless you're lucky. Smart listing agents have learned to counter on that point just as you suggest to give the short sale a fighting chance. After that the buyer can walk. I guess my point wasn't that the buyer should stay the course no matter what and pay an above the market price, but rather that a contract has terms that must be respected. Too many buyers just write offers all over the place and then feel they can bail or change the terms at will.

Dec 30, 2010 03:11 PM
Joetta Fort
The DiGiorgio Group - Arvada, CO
Independent Broker, Homes Denver to Boulder

There's not much motivation for a buyer to put up with the frustrations and risk of a short sale, unless they can get the property below market value. If values have dropped to where the short sale they're waiting on is not a good deal, not many would stick with it.

Dec 31, 2010 07:58 AM
Linda Humphrey
Humphrey Home Connections Realty, Reno, Nevada - Reno, NV
CRS, Broker/Owner HHC Realty

Joetta, you make a good point. The trick is to hit that price sweet spot where the buyer feels they are benefitting financially from their willingness to tolerate the hassles, but the bank feels it is close enough to market that they agree. Lately it seems to me that the banks are getting more agressive about countering reasonable short sale offers. In the last couple of months, I have had three deals tank and one is currently circling the drain because of unreasonable lender counters.

Dec 31, 2010 11:17 AM
Karen Fiddler, Broker/Owner
Karen Parsons-Fiddler, Broker 949-510-2395 - Mission Viejo, CA
Orange County & Lake Arrowhead, CA (949)510-2395

This is a tough one....I get it too. I understand the frustration and we can walk away, but trying to renegotiate once we've sent in an offer is very tough at best.

Dec 31, 2010 01:21 PM
Linda Humphrey
Humphrey Home Connections Realty, Reno, Nevada - Reno, NV
CRS, Broker/Owner HHC Realty

Karen - Yes, it is a difficult and often frustrating situation for all concerned. Sometimes I marvel that any of them close escrow, but as we all know it can be done.

Jan 01, 2011 02:52 AM
Joetta Fort
The DiGiorgio Group - Arvada, CO
Independent Broker, Homes Denver to Boulder

That 'circling the drain' feeling is awful. And yet, it seems it happens in all my short sales, usually quite close to the point when we have to give up. But so far, I've closed them all, so keep on keeping on as long as you can!  I also marvel that any of them close.

Jan 01, 2011 04:59 AM