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Is it right to strip a house you are about to lose?

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Real Estate Agent with Realty Executives Ambassador (Orland Park, IL South Chicago)

Is it right to strip a house you are about to lose? I see this happen quite often in middle to high end neighborhoods. Recently we took over a house in Burr Ridge, IL which is a high end suburb of Chicago. The house was easily a $1,500,000 house even in this market. The neighborhood was completely built with similar houses which were $1,500,000+ and as of right now there are still a few high end custom homes under construction in that neighborhood.

When we were first assigned the task to check on the occupancy of the home we easily found the home because it stood out like a sore thumb being the only house in the neighborhood that didn't have landscaping which was nicely groomed. We pulled in the driveway and immediately saw a pickup truck parked so it was obvious that someone was still living in the home. When we visit a foreclosed home and find people still living in the property then we try to make contact so we open up the lines of communicatio and try to work out a cash for keys deal to get the owners/tenants out in a timely fashion. The front double door had huge windows built into them so we were able to look into the house and see people in the living room watching TV plus get a decent idea of the interior condition of the house which, at the time, looked good despite the exterior needing upkeep. As soon as we rang the door-bell the 3 people in the living room just got up off the couch and walked away as if they had no idea anyone was at the door. We simply taped our contact info to their door and left. About a week later the bank sent us an email that the house was being redeemed by the owners and to cease all tasks. About 3 months went by before the bank updated us on the situation of that house. The situation was that the owners never followed through with their redemption and the bank wanted us to go back to the home to check on the occupancy status again. When we arrived at the home, the first thing we noticed was no vehicles in the driveway. We then proceeded to the front door where it became obvious that the place had been abandoned. All the furniture was gone and we could even see through the windowed door that some appliances were gone. When we find a foreclosure that has been abandoned we immediatley gain access to secure the property, take pictures, and assess the damages. The owners had taken everything of value out of the house. They took all appliances, kitchen cabinets, bathroom vanities, light fixtures, doors, shower enclosures, toilets, some light switches and electrical outlets, a built in bar, and so on. The only thing they didn't take which made us happy was the sump-pump because the basement was finished (despite a few things they stripped) and it would have been a shame if it flooded. Despite the amount of damage done to the house by the previous owners the bank just had us call the police to get a police report so they can make an insurance claim. No charges were filed against the previous owners.

Burr Ridge Stripped KitchenWhat happend to the shower?That was probably a nice bar

Another house that was stripped by its previous owners was a middle class house located in the Mount Greenwood neighborhood of Chicago. For those not familiar with Chicago neighborhoods Mt Greenwood is considered a good neighborhood to live in. In Chicago the good neighborhoods are usually the ones occupied by city employees (ie. Cops, Firemen, & City Workers) because city employees are required to live in Chicago in order to hold a city position. When we pulled up to the house to check occupancy it was obvious it was vacant because it was boarded up. We were immediately approached by a couple neighbors who happened to be Chicago cops, and they were more than happy to tell us the details about the previous owner. It turned out the house was owned by a Chicago Fireman whose wife became addicted to internet shopping. Despite a hefty paycheck coming in from the fireman the wife kept spending and eventually they didn't have any money to pay the mortgage. The fireman knew he was going to lose the house so he rented another house a few streets over and then hired a crew to strip the house of everything. The neighbors told us they watched as the fireman personally directed a crew a men to pull out anything and everything of value down to the windows. The fireman then tried to pull a scam by saying that he was robbed and even tried to blame the neighbors for not stopping the house from being stripped, but the scam didn't pan out since more than a few Chicago cops personally watched him direct the crew as to what items to strip. So the fireman then gained sympathy from his fellow fireman who couldn't believe he would do something like that and they pooled some money together to hire a board up service to secure the home for the guy. Now all the neighbors are stuck looking at this stripped down ugly house until it is purchased and rehabbed. Once again, the bank just has a police report filed for insurance purposes and no charges are filed against the previous owner.

MT Greenwood Stripped HouseThey took the garage doors?Has anyone seen the pool?

Those two examples are just a couple of many where home owners destroy their own house before the bank can take it over.

About 3 years ago when I first started listing REO properties is when a relative of mine who lives in the south suburbs of Chicago decided to completely update her house from the ground up because her and her husband felt it would help them sell the property for top-dollar. Little did they know how much the market was going to tank over the next 3 years. One day at a wedding, I was telling them stories about houses that I've come across that had been stripped by the previous owners, and as they listened, I could see the shocked look on their faces as they would ask eachother how someone could do something like that? Fast forward 3 years and they are about 6 months away from losing their house and refuse to do a short sale. They have been going to court trying to fight the foreclosure (without a lawyer) and are getting no-where. They recently told me the bank's lawyers pulled a fast one and didn't inform them of a court date which really pushed ahead their foreclosure since they weren't at court. They are now irate with the bank and the bank's lawyers and want revenge. How do they plan on getting revenge? They are planning on stripping the house clean, and somehow selling whatever they can to whoever they can. Funny how their mind changed in a matter of 3 years. I think the 2 reasons that houses get stripped are for the money that the materials can fetch and the main reason they strip it is a way to stick it to the bank.

My opinion, probably like everyone else's opinion, is that the house should be left the way you lived in it. I can see taking appliances since those can be considered personal property even in a standard real estate deal but windows, flooring, cabinets, vanities, countertops, toilets, come on! I guess we really don't know how we would act in a certain situation until we are in that situation.

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Tammy Emineth
Personal SEO - Website SEO and Real Estate Marketing - Frenchtown, MT
Content Marketer, SEO Teacher, Website Fixer

Tim, It's amazing what some people will take.  A friend of mine said the most common thing taken is the light bulbs.  I think a lot of people take ridiculous stuff just cause they are mad.  It's a matter of anger rather then actually needing the item... Sad... but understandable. ... But still time consuming for folks like you!

Tammy Emineth

Jan 12, 2011 11:22 AM
Jean Hanley
Coldwell Banker Kivett Teeters - Hemet, CA
Specializing in Folks Who Want To Buy/Sell Homes

Light bulbs are more of a personal property item, in my mind.  They are not really fixed.  I'm not justifying taking them, just sayin......however, folks who think it is the bank's fault that they are in the predicament they are in, tend to get really nasty.  I have seen an entire kitchen and bath removed, and I mean the only thing that told you what roomit was would be the gas pipe where the stove used to be, the dirt around where the cupboards used to be, etc.. I think this is a crime and should be punishable.

Jan 12, 2011 11:41 AM
Tim D. Krzyskowski
Realty Executives Ambassador (Orland Park, IL South Chicago) - Orland Park, IL
REO PRO

Jean, it actually can be punishable but the bank has to proceed with criminal charges and then they have to be able to prove that the owners actually took it and that someone didn't break in and take it. Those pictures above are from the actual houses I'm talking about in my blog. That first pic is actually of the kitchen in a high end house. Can you tell that was a kitchen?

Tammy, Most often the entire light fixure is gone so I've really never noticed just the light bulbs being taken. LOL

Jan 12, 2011 11:46 AM