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NASQT: Will The Seller Take $XXXXX.00 For This House?

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Real Estate Agent with eXp Realty

Will The Seller Take $XXXXX.00 For This House?

I recently had this question posed to me about one of my listings.

I get this a lot.  Buyers and their agents will often verbally ask if a seller will accept a certain amount for a home that is listed.  Not to be mean or discouraging, my answer is always the same "well I don't know but if you could put it on paper, I'll be sure to present it to the seller."

Real estate agents can attest to this scenario time and time again. We've all been there before.  Faced with the buyer's agent or a buyer who wants us to commit (so to speak) the seller to an offer before it's even been presented.

People often take for granted that a home is listed higher than what the seller is willing to accept.  Sometimes that is true but it varies.  The fact is, there are homes that are properly priced and the seller expects that the home will sell for that amount.  But again, you just never know until a "complete" offer is submitted.

Even sellers often think that price is the be all end all of an offer, but there are other things to consider such as:

  • Is the seller expected to pay any of buyer's closing cost
  • Desired closing date
  • Contingencies (inspections, sell of a home, etc)
  • Financing terms
  • Is it a foreclosure or short sale
  • Will there be repair request
  • Many more to consider other than just price

Buyer's agents if you've ever listed a home before you know that verbally asking what a seller will or will not accept generally will not garner you a yes or no answer.

Buyers if you are serious about purchasing a particular home, please have your agent submit a complete offer in writing.

Beverly Femia
BlueCoast Realty Corporation - Hampstead, NC
Broker Realtor Stager - Greater Wilmington, NC Are

A big part of my work involves listening and filtering.... If some verbal back and forth makes sense, why not...  This isn't a production line job where every widget is the same & I never know how the next opportunity will present itself.   

Jan 29, 2011 02:10 PM
Karen Anne Stone
New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County - Fort Worth, TX
Fort Worth Real Estate

Charita:  Sometimes I will get a slightly different question.  Let's say the home is listed at $248,900.  The buyer might ask me... "How much do you think they'll take ?"  My answer:  "Well... I'm fairly sure they'll take $248,900."  Most times I will stop right there.

Sometimes, though, I will add... "but it might even take more than that if there are multiple offers."

I love watching the looks on their faces.  <impish smile>

Jan 29, 2011 02:19 PM
Charita Cadenhead
eXp Realty - Birmingham, AL
Serving Jefferson and Shelby Counties (Alabama)

Beverly nothing is cookie cutter about this business but best practices dictate that offers be in writing.  The way I see it, if it is not in writing then it is not an offer.  Again since the offer is so much more than price, would you then propose the entire offer verbally including terms.

Karen Anne I like that response even better and can't wait to use it (the very next time I am asked that question.

Jan 29, 2011 02:25 PM
Steven Pahl
Keller Williams Tampa Properties - Tampa, FL
Real Estate Consultant Tampa, FL 813-319-6423

I have used Karen Anne's response before, usually get a long silence followed by a very weak response.  If they give me a number I will say that I will mention it to my seller, but unless it is a written contract to present then I will not be returning a response other than "they will think about it."

Jan 29, 2011 03:09 PM
Karen Anne Stone
New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County - Fort Worth, TX
Fort Worth Real Estate

Charita:  You may feel free to use it, but only if you come back and tell us all how well it worked... or didn't work.

Jan 29, 2011 04:31 PM
Karen Anne Stone
New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County - Fort Worth, TX
Fort Worth Real Estate

Beverly and Charita:  I almost NEVER submit a verbal offer.  I will fight with the buyer to avoid it... and it is to their benefit as well.  I tell them... "It could hurt you.  What if I just call in your offer... and they say they will accept it ?

Well... since they have no paperwork in front of them... they have nothing to accept.  So, if they "say" yes, and then we hurry up and get some paperwork over to them... they may have either changed their mind about your offer by the time they get it... OR... they could even have received an even higher offer "in writing" while you and I were hustling trying to get a written offer OVER to them to accept."

Does that make sense ?  It usually works every time for me. 

No... verbal... offers... .

Jan 29, 2011 04:37 PM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

I recall many years ago in a real estate class hearing that we were obligated to present verbal offers. I hope that has changed. It might have worked 80 years ago when offers weren't loaded with contingencies, etc.

With no signatures, either party can back out any time - which is what bothered me when I was handling Fannie Mae homes and other REO's. The bank people would NEVER obligate themselves until all the details had been hashed out - and sometimes they did change their minds after we thought we had agreement on some points.

Meanwhile... "would they take" sounds kinda sleazy. It also sounds kinda lazy... too much effort to write the offer and nail down the details.

Jan 29, 2011 05:03 PM
Karen Anne Stone
New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County - Fort Worth, TX
Fort Worth Real Estate

Steve in #69:  Sometimes it may the script... but many times it is more likely to be in the way the "script" was delivered. 

All I can say is that it has worked many, many times for me.

Jan 29, 2011 05:46 PM
Charita Cadenhead
eXp Realty - Birmingham, AL
Serving Jefferson and Shelby Counties (Alabama)

Steven I can imagine the long silence followed by fumbling for words.  Hilarious.

Karen Anne I promise I'll share results.  And yes it does make sense in that it would benefit the seller far more than the buyer. 

Marte offers can be verbal but contracts must be in writing.  Even so, putting offers in writing is always a good practice.  Having the agent ask this question of the seller's agent may say more about the agent than the buyer.

Karen Anne I don't do well with scripts, but this is one that I am going to have to try.

 

Jan 29, 2011 09:18 PM
Karen Anne Stone
New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County - Fort Worth, TX
Fort Worth Real Estate

Charita:  I would suggest that a "script" should NOT be knocked... just because it is a "script."  I really feel that scripts are great for absolute beginners who really have no idea where to start, or how to get where they want to go.

But... a script is a starting point... not a destination.  One can take the starting point of a script... and "make it their own."

This is not a smarty-pants response I am making here.  A "script" has been the starting point of many an Oscar-winning movie.  Winning Oscars is a good thing.  So is having closings.  <smile>

And... as usual... everything in moderation... and "your mileage may vary."

Jan 30, 2011 02:06 AM
Charita Cadenhead
eXp Realty - Birmingham, AL
Serving Jefferson and Shelby Counties (Alabama)
Karen Anne i am not oppose to scripts! I have just not been able to use them in a way that seems natural so I choose not to use them.
Jan 30, 2011 02:22 AM
RhondaHeaslip NanaimoRealEstate
RE/MAX of Nanaimo - Nanaimo, BC

Often times what would be a "no" on a verbal will be a counter on paper. I always tell my buyers that we should put it on paper as handing the seller a contract offer has far more impact, therefore far more power, than any verbal request will.

Jan 30, 2011 07:57 AM
Gene Riemenschneider
Home Point Real Estate - Brentwood, CA
Turning Houses into Homes

You can also end up negotiating against yourself.  If you say yes they still might come in less.

Jan 30, 2011 11:32 AM
Jay O'Brien
RE/MAX Revolution - Kansas City, MO
Kansas City Real Estate

Great points. It seems like shooting yourself in the foot to walk away from a potential offer. Price is only one small component and can't be summed up that easily. You gave the right advice for them to put it on paper! (and they WILL!)

Jan 30, 2011 01:53 PM
Arthur Hillman
RE/MAX Real Estate Center - North Attleboro, MA

This is a much different market than it was a few years ago and I don't want to tell a Buyers Agent and their Buyers to go put it in writting just to have them travel all over town until they find someone that will listen to their verbal. I explain that in Massachusetts all offers have to be in writting to be binding, but let me run it by my sellers and see what their response is. I then call my clients and suggest they not reply with a $ amount but have them request to see all the terms and conditions in writting so they can give it serious consideration. When working myself as a Buyers agent I often ask the listing agent if there is anything their Seller has said they could share about the price and terms they are looking for. Sometimes the listing agent will give away the entire farm and my Buyers appreciate that I asked the question on their behalf.

Jan 31, 2011 12:07 PM
clara Hahn
AgentOwned Realty - Mount Pleasant, SC

I would simply say that I'm not going to second guess my sellers. Please send me a written offer and I will be most happy to present it. Chances are that the agent asking this is new or perhaps an  agent that thinks I would give away info that I should'nt. Of course you can't be too upset with  a buyers' agent for trying to get to know something extra before working on an offer. 

Feb 02, 2011 01:48 AM
Charita Cadenhead
eXp Realty - Birmingham, AL
Serving Jefferson and Shelby Counties (Alabama)

Rhonda I dont' think anyone would disagree that an offer on paper carries far more wait and sellers are likely to take it more seriously.  Good point.

Exactly Gene.  Why risk it?

Jay you can never go wrong by putting it on paper and the buyer's agent would be doing the buyer a disservice if the agent did not insist upon it.

Arthur I just would not want to set myself up as the listing agent that fields verbal offers upon request.  If I did that then at some point, I'd probably have a hard time changing my game and insisting the offers be presenting in writing.  You know how reputations go.

Clara you absolutely cannot blame them for trying.

 

Feb 02, 2011 01:58 AM
Judy Luna
Keller Williams Market Pro Realty - Fayetteville, AR
Technology with a Personal Touch

I know the listing agents probably get this question all the time, and of course, they can't say. I work primarily as a buyer agent and I also get this question. What I tell buyers is that all sellers are different and even the same seller may accept different amounts of money for his home, depending on how long it has been on the market.

I then proceed to find out how much the seller paid for it and when they purchased it (from the county records) and then I do a market analysis, just like a listing agent would do. This gives us a fair price for the property, based on recent sales. It also helps assure that the buyer doesn't pay too much and gives us at least a ball-park figure that the appraiser may end up giving for the value.

Feb 05, 2011 02:44 PM
Tim Woodcock
ReMax Centre City Realty Inc. - London, ON

Great post Charita ! There are a lot of " tirekickers " out there these days !!

Feb 07, 2011 08:22 AM
Charita Cadenhead
eXp Realty - Birmingham, AL
Serving Jefferson and Shelby Counties (Alabama)

Judy all of the information combined can be very helpful in formulating an offer.  However, what the seller paid for the house should have far less of a bearing than the market value.

Thanks Tim.  No time for tirekickers.

Feb 07, 2011 09:00 AM