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What Will Be My Tax?

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408

The email read: "Could you explain how much would it cost me in taxes if I buy a condo in the Links? I heard that Florida has very high taxes."

You often hear that we have high property taxes in Florida. There is no simple answer here. First, your taxes and Seller’s taxes may be not the same. Taxes are being assessed every year, and they will be based on the purchase price and many other parameters, so I won’t be able to predict the exact amount of taxes.

But we sure can guess, and will be pretty close in our guess. Because the taxes are calculated not from the market value, but rather assessed value, and assessed value is the function of the budget, and not the reflection of the market values for these properties. 

Lighthouse -jon zolskyThe Links is part of Harbour Village, a gated residential community in Ponce Inlet, FL. To figure out the tax we will first find out the millage rate at which the tax is calculated. In Ponce Inlet it is 21.74620.  It means that the tax will be $21.7462 per each $1,000 of taxable value.

I checked the taxable value for a 2 bdr/2 bath condo on the 6th floor in the South Tower in The Links. It is $164,300 so the tax will be $3,572.90. Of course this is if you keep it as a vacation condo. Tax will be significantly lower if it is your primary residence.

So, is it a high tax for a 1,500+ sf condo surrounded by an executive 9-hole golf course, with one indoor pool and one outdoor, 3 club houses, including one directly on the ocean,  tennis courts, main large pool which is heated, marina with 142 slips, etc?

I can’t give you the numbers by state, as property taxes are not set by States, but rather by local governments, school districts, county government, water management district or other local taxing authorities, so the figure is fluctuating between the counties, and Florida will be somewhere in the middle of the list of 793 counties in the US with population over 60,000.

picture of Jon ZolskyIf you think this is high, please, remember, that Florida does not have State or local income tax, and if you consider this, our tax is not bad. Not bad at all.

You may even consider moving here and enjoy not only the absence of State and Local Income Taxes, but also the absence of snow. Our weather is usually very good here in Florida, which is especially noticeable in winter. 

If you think it is a good idea, you got my number right here.

 

John Michailidis
Real Property Management of Sarasota & Manatee - Sarasota, FL
Real Property Management of Sarasota & M

You wrote a good blog post Jon. Thank you for the update! --JM

Jan 29, 2011 04:02 PM
Andrea Swiedler
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices New England Properties - New Milford, CT
Realtor, Southern Litchfield County CT

Jon, you certainly explained property taxes in Florida. I did not know that Florida didn't have state or local income tax. I have to admit, I did know Florida doesn't have snow though... makes it very appealing!

Jan 29, 2011 09:52 PM
Gail C. Harris
Resource Network, LLC SFR, AHWD, ACRE, SMAR Board Director - Chesapeake Beach, MD
Reach the BEACH with Gail C. Harris (cell: 703.868

Wow,  our taxes differential, I believe, is 10% for non-primary residences.  This is a pretty high tax for vacation property.  $3500+ for a $164,000 valuation.  Oh well, they take some and they give some, it all evens out.  However, Florida has no state income tax.  So, somehow it all comes out in the wash! :)

Jan 29, 2011 10:15 PM
Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

I love your ending about the no-income tax in Florida, Jon.  People from NY often complain about our taxes and when I ask what there's are, they reply that it's different.  I think they want just a cheap getaway from the cold and forget that we have infrastructure to pay for also.

Jan 29, 2011 11:08 PM
Mike Saunders
Retired - Athens, GA

Jon - excellent explanation of how the taxes work there, and the advantages of no income tax. But remember, it did snow in Florida in 2010, but that was in the panhandle. One of the rare times when there was snow on the ground in all 50 states simultaneously.

Jan 30, 2011 02:57 AM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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thank you, John

Jan 30, 2011 02:59 AM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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Andrea - I think Florida is quite a nice place to be, especially in winter (LOL)

Jan 30, 2011 03:00 AM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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Gail - all States have Property Tax. I think this is the oldest tax levied in the US, started in the 17th century, well before the Income Tax.

There is and will be the tax for the government to operate, so with that and considering that we are in the middle and in the State with no local and State Income tax, it is pretty good

Jan 30, 2011 03:04 AM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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Gabe - I actually like the proposal that Marco Rubio had to raise the Sales Tax. It would help us involve a lot of tourists money, and I was very disappointed they had to take it off the table.

Jan 30, 2011 03:15 AM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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Mike - with temperatures even here faling below 32F it is only a matter of getting percipitations, and if we get it, it is going to be in the form of snow.

But so far I have not seen snow here, even a little bit, even in the morning... and not tht I regret not seeing it (LOL)

Jan 30, 2011 03:17 AM
William Johnson
Retired - La Jolla, CA
Retired

Hi Jon, That was  a very interesting dissertation on your property taxes. In Ca. we have what is called Prop 13. passed into law in 1978. It set the base tax rate of 1.0 . On your $164,300 sale, the tax in CA. would be approx. $1643 + any local measures. Local tax measures add to this base rate. For instance in San Diego, our rate is 1.124% of the home purchase prices. The maximum this can go up per year is 2% of the tax amount, recalculated annually. 

Jan 30, 2011 07:02 AM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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William - does it mean that in San Diego it could be total of 3% (1% + 2%) or it can't be higher than 2%. Ponce Inlet is about 2.1%, but don't you, guys, have a sizable State and Local Income Tax?

Jan 30, 2011 08:07 AM
Broker Nick
South Florida Real Estate & Development, Inc. - Coconut Creek, FL
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Like you said Jon - Flroda does not have a state income tax and that alone attracts many buyers from all walks of life -

Jan 30, 2011 10:19 AM
William Johnson
Retired - La Jolla, CA
Retired

Hi Jon, San Diego is 1.124 % and it is 2% of the tax amount not 2% added to the tax rate. Example $100,000 sale price. Tax is $1124. 2% of the tax next is $22.48 and the total would be $1146.48

Jan 30, 2011 07:38 PM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

Nicholas - it makes sense for them. I know some New Yorkers, who live here and there, and they often decide to change their primary to Florida

Jan 30, 2011 07:59 PM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

William - now I understand, thank you

Jan 30, 2011 07:59 PM