So You Think You Know What a Foreclosure Looks Like, Huh?

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Real Estate Appraiser with Thomas Horn, Real Estate Appraiser

I’ve talked about foreclosure properties in previous posts and how they are providing competition to non foreclosure properties. It really is something you have to consider when pricing your home. As appraisers we look at past sales and current active inventory. If there are other properties for sale that are similar to yours and in good shape, typical buyers will consider them when looking at available homes, even though they are foreclosure properties. The only saving grace for those selling non foreclosure homes is that banks are dragging their feet in the sales process and it takes forever for the transaction to occur. Some people want to be in a home quicker. I looked at a home recently that falls into this category, and I thought I would post some pictures to compare what it looks like compared to another “traditional” foreclosure which is in a run down condition that we are more accustomed to seeing.

Below, I have also included another foreclosure, which we are more accustomed to seeing. This home is actually better than some I have seen. As I have said before, properties similar to the one above are starting to be more predominant than the one below.

What do you think about foreclosure homes competing with “normal” home sales. Have you seen this in your market? Are you seeing nicer foreclosures these days?

Comments (18)

Andrew Mooers | 207.532.6573
MOOERS REALTY - Houlton, ME
Northern Maine Real Estate-Aroostook County Broker

We are 46th lowest for FSSR in Maine. And just do not see boatloads of any foreclosures, short sales, repossessions.

Feb 09, 2011 01:32 AM
Tni LeBlanc, Realtor®, J.D.
Mint Properties, Lic. #01871795 - Santa Maria, CA
Tenacious Tni (805) 878-9879

It is hit or mis in terms of being in decent condition.  Most don't look that great but some look just as good as a traditional sale so it all depends.

Feb 09, 2011 01:39 AM
Tom Horn
Thomas Horn, Real Estate Appraiser - Alabaster, AL
Appraising The American Dream

Andrew-you should count yourself lucky.  I hope it stays that way.

Tni-you are right, it is hit or miss.  On the whole though I am seeing foreclosures in better condition these days.

Feb 09, 2011 01:44 AM
Mark Nehs
Mortgage Loan Officer Waukesha Wisconsin - Pewaukee, WI

Like Tni said, some of each here in Wisconsin you just never know.  Thanks for the foreclosure explanations.

Feb 09, 2011 01:47 AM
Ann Allen Hoover
RE/MAX Advantage South - Hoover, AL
CDPE SRES ASP e-PRO Realtor - Homes for Sale - AL

Hi Tom, yes I'm seeing these too.  Now if the weather would warm up so they wouldn't be so unpleasant to show.  Is it Spring yet?

Feb 09, 2011 02:03 AM
Anita Clark
Coldwell Banker Access Realty ~ 478.960.8055 - Warner Robins, GA
Realtor - Homes for Sale in Warner Robins GA

Tom:  The last 2 foreclosures I've sold looked very similar to the top pics.  It's always a pleasant surprise when owners leave the homes in such pristine condition.

Feb 09, 2011 02:05 AM
Tom Horn
Thomas Horn, Real Estate Appraiser - Alabaster, AL
Appraising The American Dream

Mark-Thanks

Ann-I'm ready for spring too!

Anita-It makes an appraiser's job easier too when the home is in good shape, then we don't have to estimate repair cost.

Feb 09, 2011 02:23 AM
Doug Rogers
Bayou Properties - Alexandria, LA
Your Alexandria Louisiana Agent

Every now and then I run into a "move in ready" foreclosure. But it is a rare bird indeed!

Feb 09, 2011 02:38 AM
Richard Glesser
North Country Appraisal Services - Gaylord, MI

Doing VA work, I have done quite a few liquidation reports prior to homes being foreclosed.  From the stories told by homeowners of the frustrating and abusive behavior of lenders, I'm surprised all homes aren't trashed.

Feb 10, 2011 01:59 AM
Tom Horn
Thomas Horn, Real Estate Appraiser - Alabaster, AL
Appraising The American Dream

Doug-I'm sure those make your job a lot easier.

Richard-I've never thought about that but it sure is something to consider.

Feb 10, 2011 02:03 PM
Sara Goodwin
Ashcroft & Associates - Portland, OR
Portland, Oregon Appraiser

Sadly, I'm seeing more and more foreclosures in general.  I am often surprised with the good condition that some are left in.  More often, the banks seem to be hiring maintenance teams to keep the properties in shape. 

Here's what I find difficult.... Now that the REOs are saturating some of our area markets (saturated = perhaps 50% +/- in some of the suburban markets in my area), I cannot discount them as comparable properties like when they were making up 5%-10% of the market. In most cases, REOs have longer DOMs... agents often try to steer their buyers away from them because they're a pain to close... banks won't do any repairs required by buyers' lenders, etc... For these reasons they are often sold at a lower price than similar homes in the area.

I've been told by our state board that we are not to enter a positive adjustment simply because a property is a distressed sale (bank owned, short sale, relo, estate, etc).  So when these properties are also in top condition, I have no where to make adjustments to show that there is a reason for lower ticket prices on these properties. 

I understand that REOs will likely drive down the values in an area market... but when I can easily see a 10%-15% difference in value between distressed and non-distressed sales, it seems an adjustment somewhere is in order.

Any suggestions?

Feb 11, 2011 03:53 AM
Tom Horn
Thomas Horn, Real Estate Appraiser - Alabaster, AL
Appraising The American Dream

Sara- I'm with you.  You cannot ignore them.  If I tried to ignore them there would not be much to choose from or I would have to use older sales.  It's a sad thing, but they have to be considered, especially if these types of properties are listed for sale and are in direct competition with what you are appraising.  A smart buyer would definitely consider them as a similar alternative.  I don't have any suggestions, but if you come up with any, let me know.

Feb 11, 2011 07:35 AM
Craig Chapman
Call Realty / Access Appraisals - Mesa, AZ
The Value Guy

Years ago I had a REO client that almost always fixed up the houses real nice before they sold them, although, usually when I saw them they hadn't been fixed up yet. Giving them an accurate "as is" & "as repaired" was very important to them.  Then it seemed that things went to where the banks usually sold them 'as is', no repairs.  Lately I'm seeing some more that have been cleaned up & in some cases even painted with new carpet.

The distress issue that in my mind may create some kind of an adj in some markets, might not have to be a separate adj stated as a distress adj.  The cloud of distress would affect all elements of value in a given property. So with that in mind, some of the other adjustments might have to be changed a bit to reflect the extra consideration of the market of the distress issue on that element. The end result at the bottom of the grid would be the same as if you had a separate distress adj, but it would not show as such.  I don't think it would be at all deceptive, it would be just adj all of what the market participants were considering when making their offers. If you did not include the considerations the market was making, your report could be misleading. If you did not make all market adjustments, you would have to state that a comp was high or low due to not being totally adjusted to market as per client request.

 

Feb 11, 2011 01:15 PM
Richard Glesser
North Country Appraisal Services - Gaylord, MI

First, I attempt to not include REO sales if possible.  I believe they constitute a separate market within a market area in that buyers are not typical buyers since the properties must meet lending criteria and often need improvements after purchase, thereby limiting the potential buying market to investors with ready cash to purchase and repair the properties.

Questioning a REO adjustment, I completed a report yesterday where I had 5 comps with 2 being REOs.  Adjusted values were $110,100 - $128,400 - $134,500 and $80,700 - $96,800.  The latter two were the REOs.  This is very rural appraising where comps are nearly 30 miles away and adjusted outside standard ranges due to acreage variations.  But it is quite evident that an adjustment is indicated by the market.  Fortunately in this case, my adjustment was to drop the 2 REOs from consideration with 3 adequate comps remaining. 

Unfortunately, the lending market does not want appraisals done correctly by appraisal standards since it would shake their foundation.  But I'll outline that in a separate Blog.

Feb 14, 2011 02:02 AM
Tom Horn
Thomas Horn, Real Estate Appraiser - Alabaster, AL
Appraising The American Dream

Craig-Thanks for giving your insight.  I agree about the distress adjust.  Sometimes that is hard to quantify other times in more apparent.

Richard- Your example looks pretty apparent on which ones were the REO sales.  Wish they were all that clear.  I'm sure you have others that are more difficult to distinguish the REO from the regular sales?

Feb 14, 2011 02:55 AM
Richard Glesser
North Country Appraisal Services - Gaylord, MI

REOs are generally at least a 10% discount and up to 70%, depending on the area.  They do impose a drag on market values but REO buyers are most often investors with the cash reserves to repair to properties after purchase which often is also via cash. 

Feb 17, 2011 05:22 PM
Tom Horn
Thomas Horn, Real Estate Appraiser - Alabaster, AL
Appraising The American Dream

Richard- Saying that they impose a drag on market values is an understatement.  I understand a banks position with unloading the homes, but I believe a middle ground can be reached so that the REO's have less of an negative impact on the market value of other "normal" homes.  I'm sure this will never happen though.  We will feel the reverberations from this for years to come.

Feb 18, 2011 01:07 AM
Richard Glesser
North Country Appraisal Services - Gaylord, MI

The greed of the lenders is the basis of the entire problem.  If loans are government backed, the lender receives full reimbursement even when the home sells for pennies on the dollar.  The taxpayers (us) pay this bill, the homeowner has lost his home and credit rating, and the community suffers from lower housing values which result.  How many struggling homeowners with good intentions would still be in their homes if the banks would have reconstructed or refinanced them at the lower rates presently available?  And repeatedly I'm told that help is available only after they are 3 months past due, which has destroyed their credit and eliminated refinancing options.  The banks profit from foreclosures as do the attorney and servicing companies which handle the process.

Feb 19, 2011 12:30 AM

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