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Buying an AS-IS Property in Northern Virginia As Of...WHEN?

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Real Estate Agent with Long and Foster Real Estate VA License # 0225089470

Buying an AS-IS Propertyin Northern Virginia As Of...WHEN?

If you are buying a bank owned home (often referred to as a foreclosure) or a short sale in Northern Virginia, you are likely going to be buying the home AS-IS.  When you're agent sits down the write the offer and pulls out the AS-IS clause, there are three choices of AS-IS dates.  Those dates and the reasoning behind why you, or the Seller, would choose each one is as follows:

CONTRACT DATE:  This is a popular choice for buyers and their agents.  You know the condition of the property on the day you saw it.  So make sure if you choose this option that you are actually dating your offer the date you physically SAW the listing....even if that was two weeks ago.  Of course, if a buyer wants to choose this option and hasn't seen the home in two weeks, I'd recommend another visit before signing the offer.

DATE OF THE HOME INSPECTION:  This is my favorite choice whether I am representing the sellers or buyers.  Why?  There is no way you can get into a he said/she said argument over property condition when you have a written home inspection report to refer too.  This could be dangerous if the property has sustained some damage since you wrote the offer.  This may be a particular concern if you are buying a short sale and you may have delayed the home inspection until after short sale approval.  That means you could be three months away from when you first saw the home.  Maybe more.

SETTLEMENT DATE:  This is the least favorable of them all for buyers, in my opinion.  Sure your contract covers conveyances, so if a refrigerator was supposed to be in the house, and a financially strapped seller took it, you have recourse.  Your walk through will give a record of property condition.  If it's been vacant, maybe it's no big deal.  Personally, I don't like this option unless there is a vacant home that will have a fast settlement.

Ultimately, this is the buyer's choice when making the offer.  Pick the option that makes you, the buyer, most comfortable.  And if you have questions about buying an AS-IS property, ask your Buyer's Agent.

Comments(12)

Elizabeth Weintraub Sacramento Broker
Elizabeth Anne Weintraub, Broker - Sacramento, CA
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I like the date you first saw it, especially when I'm representing the buyer. Because a seller can remove items that were, oh, you know, fixtures, before the home inspection but after the initial viewing, and that would be a no-no.

Feb 24, 2011 01:53 PM
Pamela Stangler
eXp Realty - The Stangler Group - Cudjoe Key, FL
Florida Keys

I also usually recommend the date the buyer first saw the property which is usually the contract date anyway, but each client warrants individual consideration and choice.  This was a great blog, one that appeals to our clients and helps them to understand the different choices.  Thanks!

Feb 24, 2011 02:20 PM
Lora "Leah" Stern 914-772-4528
Coldwell Banker, 170 N Main Street, New City NY 10956 - New City, NY
Real Estate Salesperson

Chris, I'd choose the date I first saw it, though from an agent's point of view I can appreciate having a documented copy of the condition of the property that comes along with an inspection.  THis is a great explanation for clients as to the definition of "as is" and its possible implications.

Feb 24, 2011 02:55 PM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

Boy - this is a new one for me. When I was still selling, we didn't have this form. Of course, Idaho might not have it now - I don't know.

This is great information for buyers - and a good safeguard. You never know what can happen to a house between the time the buyer sees it and the day of closing. Vandalism, water leaks, frozen pipes - all sorts of things.

My one question would be - if something is different, who says? Have you run into difficulties when the buyer says "that window wasn't broken" and the seller says "yes it was?"

Feb 24, 2011 06:05 PM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

Just had to come back and tell you... Thanks!

My last comment - on your blog - put me at 200,000 points!

Feb 24, 2011 06:06 PM
Cindy Jones
Integrity Real Estate Group - Woodbridge, VA
Pentagon, Fort Belvoir & Quantico Real Estate News

I generally say "as is" based on the contract date.  I've seen houses where appliances and light fixtures have disappeared after the contract is ratified.  Figure the owners are just waiting to strip the house or someone breaks in to an empty property and runs off with anything of value.

Feb 24, 2011 11:29 PM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Elizabeth:  Since fixtures are covered in our Northern Virginia Regional Sales Contract, that doesn't bother me. 

Pam:  I'm a home inspection date kind of gal.  The reason so is that I had represented buyers on a short sale with as-is being the contract date.  When we went back to the house, we noticed a large hole cut out of the drywall that hadn't been there before and so began the battle of he said/she said.  Eventually, the buyers bailed from the contract.  Was too much headache.

Leah:  Unless you are a cash investor that can close quickly and is getting a hell of a deal, I don't get anyone choosing the date of settlement.

Feb 25, 2011 02:20 AM
Trustworthy Responsive-Personal-Banking
HOMEPATH, USDA, VHDA, FHA, VA, CONV & JUMBO MORTGAGES - McLean, VA
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I have been in the mortgage business dealing with sales contracts for 12 years and I had no idea that their are so many options for the As-Is clause portion of the contract. The As-Is clause is just more prevalent in this market of foreclosures and is obviously very important. Thanks for the info.  

Feb 25, 2011 02:20 AM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Marte:  Yes.  That stuff happens.  That's why I love the date of the home inspection.  Congrats on that milestone!  So happy to be a part of it.

Cindy:  The conveyance paragraph doesn't get deleted in the AS-IS clause, so that would be a point of action for the Buyers.  The way I see it, no matter what date you pick, if you are dealing with an angry Seller, they are going to do what they are going to do.  Nothing is going to stand in the way of their bad behavior.

 

Feb 25, 2011 02:22 AM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Steve:  I guess it's only logical that we have to spell out the date that the Buyer is accepting the Property As-Is.  What a nightmare if it was just As-Is for whatever the heck happened to it.

Feb 25, 2011 02:29 AM
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Chris Ann --- in California our purchase agreement states all property is sold in "as is" condition --- it's best to explain this to clients upfront so if/when they write an offer they understand it.  Even though the property is sold in this condition it does not relieve the owner(except in the case of a bank owned, probate or certain trust sales) of the duty to disclose(and we have many disclosures)known issues.  If an issue is discovered during the inspection and investigation phase of the transaction, a buyer has some choices to make, accept the condition and continue, to reject the condition and cancel the transaction or ask the seller to remedy the condition, credit for repair or reduce the negotiated price.   It's a bit more complex than stated here but that's the general idea from a West Coast perspective and when it comes down to it, all real estate is about local customs.

Feb 25, 2011 03:57 AM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Michael:  Local customs are always the ones that matter. 

Feb 25, 2011 04:07 AM