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The New American Dream: Oh NO! There goes my piggy bank. Vacant and Vandalized

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Prudential California Realty/Gem Mortgage

I was called into a conference room in my office today, to help a couple decide what their options were in regard their housing situation.  One of my agents, Dolores Soler, had met this couple while out door knocking.  You see, this couple had purchased their Long Beach, California home back in 1999 for approximately $190,000.00 which was full price back in those days.  Over the last eight years they had refinanced their home 3 times to the tune of $450,000.00 and now were three months behind in payments; yet, they had still not recieved the invevitable, notice of default.  My God, if they play their cards right, they might like the other couple I talked on Monday Night, get to stay in their foreclosed house for up to a year without paying a dime.  Yes, in some cases the Banks prefer the properties to be occupied instead of vacant and vandelized.  Vacant and Vandalized.....sounds like a good name for a heavy-metal band.

So imagine that in the last six years alone, home prices in Southern California had, until last year, have  gone up approx. 150%-200%.  With the lure of cheap money, Americans flocked to the banks to cash in to pay for a assumed lifestyle, that was really atificial in its origination.  Now, this is really nothing to joke about, but the perverbial ATM machine in the living room is bone dry.  And there is no place to go for additional cash!  It has been estimated that in the last 2 years that 25% percent of domestic spending was based on borrowed money from home refinancing.  Unfortunately, often these days, I feel more and more often as if I'm directing traffic on the deck of the Titanic...It's like this:  OK you have several options:

A).  When you hit the plain truth and explain that they can opt to do nothing and just lose their home in the foreclosure and totally blow their credit, at least for the next 4 to 7 years....until the next generation of sub-prime loans resurrects from the grave to save the day  and so on and so on. .. I have witnessed their eyes kind of glaze over when they realize that they might actually lose out on another home buying opportunity in the near future.  Afterall, you mean I might not get another opportunity to spend another $250,000.00 on I-pods new cars, mindless commercialism?  You might aswell impale me by throwing me off the South Tower.  After all, how am I going to keep up with the Jones when I can no longer borrow.   Afterall, they cashed out over $250,000.00 in last eight years with their last home purchase....and isn't it kind of inconvenient not being able to do that again?  I mean this is America and owning a home, or maybe I should say, borrowing on a home is the The New American Dream.

B).  The Foreberance.  Take an already finacially strapped Family that can't make their current $3000.00 a month payment, have them sign a document that because they are already $12000.00 behind that they can stay in their home under one condition:  Pay the bank only $4000.00/month for a year and then they will be all caught up, out of foreclosure, and live happily ever after.   Statistically, the only real negative side to  this approach is that it, rather inconveniently,  forces many young families into the growing crime of Bank Robbery in their desperate attempt to hang on. 

C).  Bankruptcy.  Oh yes, go ahead and file.  Just wait till the 109th day of the 110 day foreclosure process in our non-recourse, "Golden State,"  That's right folks, California is the known as the Golden State.  We only have approximately 50000 households involved in the foreclosure process, not bad considering that there are like forty million Californians, right?  But Bankruptcy isn't as easy this year after the credit card companies very successful lobbying last year.  Oh well.  just remember you had better pay the court fees and the attorneys too!

D).  The Short Sale.  Now, I'm approximately 6'-3" and weigh in about 270 lbs.  Does that mean I won't  qualify for the short sale?  Hey wait a minute that's not fair.  Everyone needs to write to their Congressmen because size does matter!  We need to turn this battleship around and start doing TALL SALES!!!   When after going through all of my gesticulations and explanations and theories and the shocked client finally realizes that there is no money in it for him?   What, you get a real estate commission and I get the boot?  You mean everyone in the feeding chain gets to cash in on my misery except for me?.....How about a medium height sale, instead?

Perhaps I better just keep my mouth shut and not say anything at all.....the last two couples in foreclosure       left my office with rather light complexions.

 

 

Shari George
Coldwell Banker Tomlinson - Lewiston, ID

What did these people spend the money on??? Is there anything at all they can sell other than their home to knock down the debt, and refinance a smaller amount?  What is the home worth now?    A short sale..everybody loses..Not to mention they have nothing, they also owe the tax bill on the "income" that they made from not having to make the full payment...

Tough..

Sep 26, 2007 12:02 PM
Steve Norris
Meridian, Idaho - Meridian, ID
Silvercreek Realty Group
Yeah, I just finished closing for a young couple that found themselves selling for a zero net.  At least these folks were merely the victim of bad circumstances and not running up the refi balance.  But watching them sell and walk away only to save their credit is hard.  Fortunately we haven't seen dramatic price drops here so far....
Sep 26, 2007 12:03 PM
Fargo Web Designs
Paulchristl.com - Fargo, ND
LiteSpeed Hosting SEO Services

Great Story

I am in North Dakota now, but my first home I bought in Coon Rapids, MN. at 62,000.00 in 1999 in 2001 it appraised at 145,000.00 and EVERYONE and their brother tried to borrow me money.  After a while with a great credit Score the offers started to look good. What I mean I was  19 years old and people tried to give me more money that at that time Thank God I Did Not need! But If I had taken out a 2nd mortgage 90% of appraised Value.  I would not be able to sell this home for that price in the current market. Thus I and My Family ARE STUCK!  I Sold That house in 2004 For 139,500.00 IN 5 Days! Rolled that into my Fargo Home That I live in Now! That I 50% Equity in.

How Different my famliy's Life would be if things where different then! And we borrowed all that money.

Keep that Money in Your "Living Room" So that when this slows happen YOUR NOT STUCK!!

 

 

Sep 26, 2007 12:12 PM
Adrian Alvarado
MGR Real Estate Inc. - Ontario, CA
Inland Empire Real Estate

Unfortunately this is todays market and we are now turning into the reporters of bad news. A lot of clients do not realize that they can no longer afford to pay or have room to cash out any more money. The days of getting by with that extra cash from your refi are long gone. Foreclosures are hitting the market and dragging down an already down market.

Sep 26, 2007 12:39 PM
Adrian Alvarado
MGR Real Estate Inc. - Ontario, CA
Inland Empire Real Estate

Unfortunately this is todays market and we are now turning into the reporters of bad news. A lot of clients do not realize that they can no longer afford to pay or have room to cash out any more money. The days of getting by with that extra cash from your refi are long gone. Foreclosures are hitting the market and dragging down an already down market.

Sep 26, 2007 12:39 PM
Danny Thornton
R & D Art - Knoxville, TN
WordPress Guru

As bad as this may seem, it is what has been going on for some time.

Sep 26, 2007 12:56 PM
Andrew Trevino
ADT Real Estate - Wilkes Barre, PA
Wilkes-Barre Homes For Sale
It's unfortunate, but it's the result of our high living life styles. You know what's going to happen? These folks will go back and do the same thing all over again when they get a chance.
Sep 26, 2007 02:45 PM
Lanre-"THE REAL ESTATE FARMER" Folayan
Samson Properties - Bowie, MD
I don't make promises.I deliver results.SOLD HOMES
Its sad that you have worked all of your life to own a piece of the American Dream only to end up turning into a nightmare for some. Great post.
Sep 26, 2007 02:46 PM
Joan Whitebook
BHG The Masiello Group - Nashua, NH
Consumer Focused Real Estate Services
Terrible news for these people. Is there anyway they can rent their homes out and become "roommates"  --  Short medium and tall sales are not the answer either -- there are all those taxes!
Sep 26, 2007 03:50 PM
Bill Nazur
First Lending Solutions - Riverside, CA

Kirk

6'3, 270, and you just squashed your clients like a bug.....and they deserved every bit of it. That does not mean I'm not compassionate because I am, but can people really believe that it wouldn't stop, and then on top of that, not prepare for it?

 

Sep 26, 2007 04:31 PM
Duane Hosek
Coldwell Banker - Lewis-Kirkeby-Hall - Rapid City, SD

Hmmm.   Sounds like a vicious cycle with no happy ending.

Duane Hosek in the Black Hills of South Dakota

Sep 26, 2007 05:33 PM
Bob & Carolin Benjamin
Benjamin Realty LLC - Gold Canyon, AZ
East Phoenix Arizona Homes
A very unhappy story. Many people have unfortunately been living that story.
Sep 26, 2007 06:10 PM
Laurie Manny
Long Beach CA Real Estate - Long Beach, CA
We are going to be hearing more and more of these stories coming down the pipes. 
Sep 26, 2007 06:20 PM
Faith LaRosse
Springer Realty Group - Limerick, PA
Serving Berks, Chester & Montgomery Counties
so sad.  I hope someone can help these people to avoid getting right back into this again. Unfortunately, I'm afraid in so many cases, that is the cold hard facts.
Sep 26, 2007 06:24 PM
Brett Noel
Keller Williams - Paso Robles, CA
gREAT ARTICLE THX
Sep 26, 2007 06:45 PM
Robert Kerr
Kerr Financial - Warwick, RI

You forgot Option E: Call the bank, mail in the keys, walk away. 

Sep 27, 2007 01:13 PM
Anonymous
Sol <a href="http://www.farewellcalifornia.com/">Farewell Calif
If option A is the "New American Dream" and it is "bust", what will the "Neo Post Modern" American Dream be?  ;)~
Sep 28, 2007 09:02 AM
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Kirk Mulhearn
Prudential California Realty/Gem Mortgage - Long Beach, CA

I would think that the new American Dream would be Neo Post Modern american dream will be to refind the soul of America, for us as a people to rediscover what principles this great country was founded on and then to reapply those ideals!!!  but it all starts on the street with you and me-----take care.  ktm

Sep 28, 2007 02:39 PM
Kerry Jenkins
Prime Properties - Crestline, CA

The American Dream began as a quest for one's own land and homestead.  Unfortunately it meant the destruction of a race of people, because we couldn't all get along. Now, in the same quest for homeownership and your 5000 sqares 15 feet to your next neighbor, we have replaced that Dream for the fanciest cars, fanciest clothes, fanciest furniture to impress others and make it seem that we have "made it".  this is because so many have fallen victim to advertising that makes you think your life is empty unless you have these things.  Unfortunately this means the destruction of another race of people, the middle classes that just wanted to get along with the smallest percentage of people in the world that have made them feel empty unless they had that lifestyle.

Kirk, to refind the soul of America is to bring God back into the fold. 

Sep 30, 2007 07:33 AM
Kirk Mulhearn
Prudential California Realty/Gem Mortgage - Long Beach, CA
Amy, very well said, we live in a material world that puts the emphasis on the wrong things!!!  This life is fleeting and will be over for all of us soon,  I hope that the current slump will force people to rediscover their spiritual side....
Sep 30, 2007 08:29 AM