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The Shine on Your Ceiling is Like the Shine on My Forehead

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Real Estate Sales Representative with Immeubles Deakin Realty

A funny cute charming annoying thing has happened as I age [ahem] "gracefully": I have developed a mid-day shine on my forehead.  Call it the development of combination skin commonly associated with women of a certain age, if you must.  Better yet, just hand me a napkin and tell me to wipe it off. 

Which is exactly what I'd like to tell homeowners who paint their ceilings in a high-gloss paint.  

I can imagine how it happens.  You scrape the Christmas tree across the ceiling one year, leaving a nice stripe, and then you suddenly notice scuff marks where the outdoors-only street-hockey ball hit the ceiling, and where you tried to wipe off what you thought was dust but was really an incubating insect.  Then you realize you might as well paint the whole ceiling and - Hey! You just happen to have a can of leftover white paint from the trim you painted last year!  How handy!

STOP!  Put down that can, mister!

That paint you have in your hand has a gloss to it, because this is typically what we put on trim.

But high-gloss paint on a ceiling does the exact same thing as oil on my forehead: it accentuates every single nook and cranny, every ridge, every less-than-perfect surface.  And ceilings are full of them.  As is my forehead - at least in the magnifying mirror (which, in my opinion, is the cruelest gadget ever made...but I digress).

Ceilings should have matte paint.  Only.  That's it.  What you save by not purchasing a can of matte paint you lose when a potential buyer walks in, looks up, and thinks, "Our ceiling doesn't have all those waves and stuff.  Maybe they have a leak somewhere?" 

Every ceiling has some imperfections, as does every complexion.  No need to accentuate them, dahling.

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Tanya Nouwens

Tanya Nouwens Inc., Montreal Real Estate Broker and Canadian Staging Professional (TM)  www.readysetsold.ca 

RE/MAX ROYAL (JORDAN) INC., www.remax-quebec.om

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This blog is written with my opinions. My opinions are presented with accuracy but not guarantees. Copyright Tanya Nouwens - 2015. If you want to reprint parts of this, just email me for my permission at tanya@readysetsold.ca.

 

Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

Oh, what great advice.  Yes, matte finish is the way to go on the ceilings.  For the floors, I always recommend satin finish.  The semi gloss (or glossy) highlights all the scratches and dents even more so it will need to be redone faster.

Mar 09, 2011 10:11 PM
Ed Silva, 203-206-0754
Mapleridge Realty, CT 203-206-0754 - Waterbury, CT
Central CT Real Estate Broker Serving all equally

Have no idea what that skin thing is all about, I have naturally larger pores. As for the ceiling, a softer, kinder tone is always better.

Mar 09, 2011 11:31 PM
Tanya Nouwens
Immeubles Deakin Realty - Montreal West Island, QC
Montreal Real Estate Broker & Stager

Good morning gang!  Thank you, everyone, for your comments - especially to those who shared that this is news to them.  Jane, I hope you've set your painter straight on your bathroom ceiling :)

As Steve points out, generally ceilings should be matte and trim should be semi-gloss.  (My crown mouldings, though, are done in an eggshell finish and look spectacular.)  I don't think walls should ever be gloss, so I concur with Melina on that one.  Eggshell for walls is great.  And in Europe, matte walls is a trend, though I don't know how they can actually live with that.  A high-gloss wall can be really dramatic, if done by an expert painter (and perhaps plasterer!), but that's a look that is very personal and not geared to the masses - though geared very well to disco balls :)

I have clients who recently painted their entire stairwell in a semi-gloss finish - because the Home Depot guy told them it would make the walls wipe-able.  Lenn and Janet, you called that one.  The problem is that the light and the sun hit the entire stairwell wall, which is the first thing you see when you enter the house -- and every single undulation in the wall, no matter how minor (and they're all minor and natural in this case) is revealed.

Valerie, Karen and Bill raise the dangers of using unmatched paint to patch walls.  Yes, it happens...and you have to see it to believe it.

Debbie makes a great point that high gloss on floors can have the same effect - and as the owner of a rambunctious dog and mother of two boys, I can attest to the validity of what she says!  Luckily, the years of playing tag in the house and racing cars around the kitchen have served to dull any shine there once was :)

Maureen, thank you for your intention to re-blog. I had no idea it wasn't fixed yet.

And Jennifer, thank you for the mention of SNL in your comment.  I take the association between anything I write and an historical SNL skit as a compliment of the highest degree ;)

 

Mar 10, 2011 12:18 AM
Brian Madigan
RE/MAX West Realty Inc., Brokerage (Toronto) - Toronto, ON
LL.B., Broker

Tanya,

This only works on the ceiling of a commercial kitchen. Other than that leave that paint in the can.

Brian

Mar 10, 2011 12:31 AM
Richard Strahm
American Foursquare Realty - Lansdale, PA
Lansdale and North Penn Real Estate

I love the post and the analogy!  While you may feel your forehead gets glossy with age -- mine just gets bigger and bigger with age!

Mar 10, 2011 01:22 AM
Irene Kennedy Realtor® in Northwestern NJ
Weichert - Lopatcong, NJ

Tanya,

As a former decorative painter, I'm with you 100%.  Well, except that I remove my corrective eye wear anytime I'm close to a magnifying mirror...

Mar 10, 2011 01:40 AM
Stephanie Stringer
First Choice Loan Services NMLS#210764 - San Antonio, TX
Mortgage Loan Originator

Tanya,  You are so funny.  I always love reading your post.   Yeah, high gloss paint on cover ups....  That's like me trying to cover my freckles with 8 shades darker foundation, then heck it bits me in the butt with looking like I got looks of age spots.

Mar 10, 2011 01:46 AM
Susan Mangigian
RE/MAX Preferred - West Chester, PA
Chester & Delaware County Homes, Delaware and Ches

Of course, this brings me to a funny story.  One Sunday while I was out working,my husband decided to paint all the trim on the first floor of our home.  I had bought several gallons of woodwork paint and it was stored in the basement.  He called me to ask me what the can said.  I said the color printed on the can was Benner White.  Benner is the name of the painter who originally painted the house and he gave me his formula for woodwork paint.  Unfortunately, he also left a can of ceiling paint in our basement that also said Benner White on the can.  I came home from a long day to find my husband, who had also had a long day, just about finished with the woodwork on the ENTIRE FIRST FLOOR OF MY HOME.   How does it look? he asked.  It looked great, clean and fresh... still wet, it was shiny.  Then I noticed the can.  "Please tell me that you did use this paint", I quietly asked.  "You said Benner White", he answered.  

What I didn't think I needed to mention to a man who's lived in the world as long as my husband has is that YOU DON'T PUT FLAT CEILING PAINT (which is what the can clearly said) ON WOODWORK.

 

 

Mar 10, 2011 02:31 AM
Chris and Berna Sloan
Group 1 Real Estate - Tooele, UT
Tooele UT

Great info! It pays to look up! Thanks for the post

Mar 10, 2011 02:52 AM
Robert Butler
Aspect Inspection - Montreal West Island, QC
Montreal Home Inspector | Aspect Inspection

As I'm doing an inspection, high gloss is actually an aid to my work. It means I can see and 'read' everything. And thats good for me. Being able to see is critical and also why I rarely do inspections under artificial light.

As a home resident you don't want that much detail, everyday. Great subject Tanya.

Mar 10, 2011 02:58 AM
Bill Rozek
Embrace Home Loans, Inc. - Potomac, MD
NMLS #214260

Funny and to the paint, uh point.  As a guy who has done his share of painting and can "cut in" a pretty mean line for an amateur, I would also recommend using top-of-the-line paint, whatever brand you choose.  Cheap paint isn't worth the time of having to put on an extra coat or two, or the drips, splatters and runs or lack of washability you will get with thin, cheap paint.

Mar 10, 2011 03:33 AM
Joel Weihe
Realty World Alliance - Wichita, KS
Helping you to use your VA home loan benefits

We just asked some sellers to consider repainting two bedrooms that were beat up by the tenant and had bad paint jobs and just looked awful.  They agreed.  I went over today to look at it..... I guess I should have been more specific.  I just asked them to pick a neutral beige'ish color.  They went with a high gloss institutional peach!  Looks like a dentist office in there!  Oi!   Gloss paint should only be sold in buckets marked TRIM only. lol.   Thankfully I rarely see it on the ceiling, but oh, I have...

Mar 10, 2011 03:48 AM
Christianne O'Malley
Dickson Realty - Reno, NV
Exceptional Service - Delivering Results in Reno!

This is a GREAT analogy! Just love it! I was in a listing the other day that was on tour, and the ceiling was two different colors. They'd painted the walls and about a quarter of the way around the room, but the center of the ceiling was a different shade. I pointed it out to the listing agent who just said "oh well". Oh well??!! Get a ladder! :)

Mar 10, 2011 05:34 AM
Malcolm Johnston
Century 21 Lanthorn Real Estate LTD., Trenton, Ontario - Trenton, ON
Trenton Real Estate

 Now whenever I see a glossy ceiling I will think of your forehead. I guess some people are not aware that there's specific paint for ceilings.

Mar 10, 2011 06:04 AM
Ellen Caruso
Daniel Gale Sotheby's International Realty - Glen Head, NY

Tanya very funny, and reminds me of my forehead story. When my daughters were younger they each liked to dress like me. One day when the younger one had more in common, including our hairstyles with our hair pulled back, the older one got mad and said "you don't look like mom, she's got those lines on her forehead!" LOL

Mar 10, 2011 09:31 AM
Sharon Parisi
United Real Estate Dallas - Dallas, TX
Dallas Homes

Tanya, I like your clever comparison.  There are far too many shiny ceilings!

Mar 10, 2011 03:11 PM
Tanya Nouwens
Immeubles Deakin Realty - Montreal West Island, QC
Montreal Real Estate Broker & Stager

Bill makes a great point about the quality of paint making a difference in how easily it goes on and provides adequate coverage.

LMAO @ Richard's comment.  I read your comment to my husband this morning -- he thinks you're hilarious!  And he can relate :)

Listen, if we can't laugh about getting older, we're in for a rough ride, right?  Thanks to Irene, Stephanie, Ellen, Richard and others for laughing with me on this!

And to Susan & Sheree: Goes to show that we can never assume anyone knows what we mean or what we want!

Now I've just heard the news about Japan and the resulting tsunami.  Off to watch CNN to find out more.  Sounds horrific...

 

Mar 11, 2011 12:25 AM
Jan Laurie
JL Residential Styling & Staging - Nanaimo, BC

Hi Tanya - this is a cleverly written post. Thanks for being so 'real'. (glad I'm not alone)

Mar 11, 2011 01:24 PM
Scott Hayes
(512) 786-8300 - Austin, TX
Realty Austin, Broker Associate

Very smart post Tanya. Although I'm sure your forehead looks great. We're having a rental property painted this weekend- gonna have to think about the matte for the ceiling. Thanks Tanya

Mar 12, 2011 04:14 AM
Scott Hayes
(512) 786-8300 - Austin, TX
Realty Austin, Broker Associate

Very smart post Tanya. Although I'm sure your forehead looks great. We're having a rental property painted this weekend- gonna have to think about the matte for the ceiling. Thanks Tanya

Mar 12, 2011 04:14 AM