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Ice boxes, tin foil, and linoleum

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Real Estate Agent with Healdsburg Sotheby's International Realty

Ice Delivery WagonWe all carry around old words for things. Ice box, tin foil and linoleum are a few that get tossed around my household. We're unlikely to see a return to the days of daily ice deliveries for keeping food cold, and unless you personally remember World War I, you've never seen tin foil. Still, today's tip shows that being old doesn't necessarily mean obsolete. Linoleum has made a strong comeback and is a great green alternative to vinyl flooring. 

Marmoleum floor tileOne of the green flooring companies has a fact sheet on linoleum that explains the natural origins of the materials that make up sheet linoleum and how the lifecycle impacts of this natural floor are good for the environment. Even at the end of the 25 to 40 year life span of this flax seed and rosin product, the environmental consequences are excellent. It turns out that linoleum has the fuel equivalent of coal in an incinerator or can be disposed of bio-degradably in a landfill. You should read the original article to understand all the green facts about linoleum and check out all the great colors and patterns. 

horizontal carbonized bamboo flooringIn addition to linoleum, other natural floors like cork and bamboo can be produced sustainably and have a much lower impact on our planet than products like PVC vinyl flooring and synthetic carpets. Have a look at all the great products available before you build or remodel. 

Dave with tinfoil hatAs for me, in addition to using green flooring products, I'll try not to get on my wife's case when she says tinfoil. She's in the majority. A quick google search shows that tin foil has over three million hits and aluminum foil is only around 2 million. I think it's all about the hat.

 

 

Terry Haugen STAGE it RIGHT! 321-956-2495
Stage it Right! - Melbourne, FL
Thanks for the information.  I didn't really know the difference between vinyl and linoleum.  Speaking of ice boxes, when I was a kid there were no refrigerated delivery trucks so the milk man had block of ice in the back of his truck to keep the milk cold.  NOTHING tasted better on a hot summer day than a couple of chunks of ice chipped off an ice block by a milk man who took pity on a bunch of kids hanging around hoping for a cold treat.
Sep 27, 2007 02:23 PM
Stephanie Edwards-Musa
thredUP.com - The Woodlands, TX
knitwit at thred UP
Hi Dave,  I also didn't really know the difference b/tw vinyl and linoleum.  Thanks for letting us know.
Sep 27, 2007 02:38 PM
Dave Roberts
Healdsburg Sotheby's International Realty - Healdsburg, CA
Terry, I remember the days of milk delivery. I grew up in Minnesota and on cold winter days the milk would have pushed the cap up a couple inches over the mouth of the bottle. I don't think I ever got fresh ice from the milk man, though. That's a good story. In researching this I found that aluminum foil replaced tin foil in 1910. I thought it was a lot later than that. One of the reasons I enjoy blogging is I get to learn new things. I'm with Stephanie on the vinyl and linoleum being the same until just a year or two ago when I got a building that had original linoleum in it that was still in great condition and probably forty years old. It's good stuff.
Sep 27, 2007 03:41 PM
Karen Willliamson
Maui Earth Realty LLC - Kihei, HI
Wailea Hawaii real estate

Wow!!! I am so completely impressed.  I always thought linoleum was made from synthetic materials.

I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, but do you know what vinyl is made from?

Sep 28, 2007 08:50 PM
Dave Roberts
Healdsburg Sotheby's International Realty - Healdsburg, CA

Hi Karen,

The main ingredient in a vinyl floor is PVC or poly vinyl chloride.  It's the same material you would find in a beach ball or inflatable mattress. It's got other materials for backing and the top surface. Your question ispired me to find out how it is actually made and there is a good article in Popular Mechanics from five years ago.

Sep 29, 2007 02:43 AM
Karen Willliamson
Maui Earth Realty LLC - Kihei, HI
Wailea Hawaii real estate

Wow, you're awesome, thanks for the research!!!

How interesting, and I remember hearing that the production of pvc is not good (environmentally)

Here on Maui each time they burn the cane fields, they burn all the irrigation system.  I'm not sure if it is pvc or the black drip type system.  Either way, not so good for the environment and the people.  Though I think they are about done with cane here, as the international market is far too competitive and this crop has been subsidised for years from the federal government. 

Sep 29, 2007 08:14 AM
Dave Roberts
Healdsburg Sotheby's International Realty - Healdsburg, CA

They used to burn the rice fields around Sacramento until they figured out leaving the rice stalks brought the ducks who ate the stalks and fertilized the fields. 

I know they've finished with the cane on the Big Island, so I think it's just a matter of time until Maui stops producing it. From an energy point of view, making alcohol from sugar is a pretty decent way to get fuels, so I wouldn't be surprised in twenty years if Hawaii is growing sugar again.

As for PVC, it's a useful material, but it is not environmentally benign. I think using it in floors or in a cool roofing application is probably a good long term use, but we still have to figure out how to dispose of it better.

Thanks for your feedback 

Sep 29, 2007 09:16 AM
Billnulls Blog Florida Realty Professional
Charles Rutenberg Realty - Clearwater, FL
AHWD
Personally, I love the look of bamboo flooring! And I DO remember the ice truck - it would bring the ice to our fishing camp when I was a kid-
Sep 30, 2007 02:02 AM
Dave Roberts
Healdsburg Sotheby's International Realty - Healdsburg, CA
I'm always surprised by the variety in bamboo flooring. They have managed to make it look great in a lot of different colors and configurations. Thanks for your comment.
Sep 30, 2007 03:09 AM
Mary McGraw
GLREA - Rockford, MI
2015: Solar Energy Is Still A Simple Machine!
Dave - thanks for the flooring education and I love the hat! You have provided some great links! I am a fan of bamboo flooring also! I saw an advertisement recently for recycled leather flooring - it looked like a very cool product!
Sep 30, 2007 02:35 PM
Terry Haugen STAGE it RIGHT! 321-956-2495
Stage it Right! - Melbourne, FL
Dave I too love old linoleum floors.  After all these years some still look like new.  Everytime I watch a show about getting a house ready for sale, I cringe when they replace those good old floors and the pink tile in the bathrooms.  I'd love to have a retro house.  I'm surprised they don't capitalize on those things and bring out the retro instead of updating to modern.  I know it would limit the buyers but many buyers out there are people who remember that stuff and love it.
Sep 30, 2007 03:32 PM
Dave Roberts
Healdsburg Sotheby's International Realty - Healdsburg, CA

Collage of retro imagesHi Terry,

In your honor I've posted some images from one of my favorite well preserved homes in Healdsburg, CA. In addition to the items featured here there is an abundance of natural wood trim, a lovely patterned wallpaper wainscot, and some period light fixtures. 

I think it would be fun to run a contest here for people to post their favorite house for sale that has kept some authentic details. It would be a chance to educate each other about architecture and construction details. 

Sep 30, 2007 04:33 PM
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Thanks for the information, Dave. We have "marmoleum' in the lounge/kitchen at our offices...we love it. Hey..I just noticed that your-post is featured. Congratulations!
Sep 30, 2007 04:51 PM
Dave Roberts
Healdsburg Sotheby's International Realty - Healdsburg, CA
janeAnne, Thanks for the product reference. I didn't want to give a blatant plug in the main post, but I'm delighted to have you mention something you're happy with. I'd love to see a post on what green choices you have made in your office. 
Sep 30, 2007 05:00 PM
Anonymous
Lisa Edwards -World Class Properties, LLC Hawaii
That was some very interesting information. I like facts and stuff like that!!
Oct 05, 2007 06:04 AM
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David Helm
Helm Home Inspections - Bellingham, WA
Bellingham, Wa. Licensed Home Insp
Dave, Your answer about the ingredients of vinyl flooring didn't go quite far enough.  The main ingredient (raw material) is petroleum.  Yes, that stuff we are destroying Iraq for.  Another "green" asset of true linoleum (the major brand name of modern linoleum is "Marmoleum" ) is that it does not outgas nasty VOC's (that's Volatile Organic Compounds) used to keep the stuff soft (vinyl, that is).  Those of us concerned with indoor air quality can appreciate this. 
Oct 07, 2007 06:27 AM
Dave Roberts
Healdsburg Sotheby's International Realty - Healdsburg, CA
David, thanks for the update. I agree with everything you said. The indoor air quality is a huge factor for many people that have become sensitive to chemical exposure.
Oct 07, 2007 06:31 AM