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Today I remembered why I don't do BPO's anymore!

By
Real Estate Agent with Keller Williams Realty Coeur d'Alene AB37665

Subtitle: The perils of trespassing in the back woods in North Idaho!

A Broker Price Opinion is an opinion of property value.  Several years ago, when I returned to north Idaho, I began doing BPO's as a way to bring in a little income while I reestablished my real estate business. 

BPOWhen the number of homes being offered as short sales began climbing, so did the requests by loss mitigation departments of the mortgage lenders for BPO's.  Not quite as sophisticated as an appraisal, it is a real estate broker's opinion of value for a property.  Some of the factors that I consider when formulating my opinion of value are the surrounding properties, sales trends in the neighborhood, property condition and repairs needed.  The property is compared to similar properties that have recently sold, as well as those that are currently for sale.

One of the tasks is to take pictures of the property. Some orders are for interior BPO's, others are for drive-by BPO's. 

Last week, in a round about way, I ended up with a request from a nice Accounts Control Officer at a credit union to do a couple of drive-by BPO's.  I was intrigued at the opportunity to work with an individual rather than with a hugBPOe go-between servicer in an automated system.  You just never know where a relationship like that might end up.  So I accepted the assignment and knocked out the first one last week.  It was in a nice subdivision in Coeur d'Alene.  There were three good sold comparables within just a few blocks.  I had actually shown each of them while they were on the market. That BPO was a slam dunk!

I set out today to the hinterlands to photograph the second house.  I found the mailbox, but finding the house was more of a challenge.  These properties on timbered acreages sat far back from the road.  I wasn't even sure which muddy dirt road driveway belonged to my house.  One of the general instructions with a drive-by is to not approach the homeowners.  There I was in the boonies faced with a bit of a conundrum. 

My best guess as to which deep-woods driveway belonged to my house made me take a closer look at one that had no tire tracks through the ice-crusted snow.  I could see a sliver of the house around a bend behind a stand of pine trees, and it looked like a probable match to the photo from the assessors office.  BPOHowever, I couldn't see enough of the house to know for sure.  Since it was obvious that no one had come in or out that drive to the property for at least a few weeks, I figured it was vacant and decided to venture down the drive on foot to scope it out. 

Sure enough, when I rounded the trees I could see that it definitely was The House.  And good golly Miss Molly, there was stuff EVERYWHERE!  Sanford and Sons meets Deliverance.  I was amazed at what unfolded before me.  All manner of vehicle, machinery and equipment, junk and debris.  A couple of dilapidated sheds with more stuff spilling out.  I wandered around and started snapping photos.  I was intrigued at all the stuff, wondering how it all happened to be there, and why it was all still there.  I went around the side of the house and saw a pair of old snow mobiles sitting side by side in the mud, rusting.  I was intrigued at what the story could be of this house.

I rounded the back of the house and almost had a heart attack!  There was another muddy road driveway that lead to the property from the main road.  And sitting there by the back door at the end of some fresh tracks in the mud was a pick-up truck.  Somebody was home!  And here I was, trespassing walking around on his secluded acreage in the woods with a camera, taking pictures of his stuff!  I literally almost fainted!BPO

When I regained my wits I tried to formulate an escape plan.  I half expected the door to burst open and a hound dog to chase me down while shotgun blasts pierced the backwoods silence.  I'm pretty sure know for sure I would not be able to out run a hound dog on my arthritic knees!  I would have to walk past the house and down one or the other of those muddy/icy/snowy drives to get back to my car.  I was thinking fast and my heart was pounding faster than it ever has after a session in the gym with Killer Cate.

I tried to make my camera as unnoticeable as possible under my jacket, and decided just to walk purposefully towards the road.  As if it was the most normal thing for me to be walking past that house in the woods.  And if Billy Bob, or whoever, came bursting out the door, I would just smile and say hello, and keep walking purposefully towards the road. 

I must be living right or something, because no hound dog or irate redneck came bursting out the door.  I BPOhopped in my car and purposefully drove back to my office.  As I drove I reminded myself of all the reasons I stopped doing BPO's a year or so ago. 

I am now more determined than ever not to do them, with the exception being for this nice Account Control Officer.  When he needs one, I'm in.  I'm not sure why I am making an exception for him, except that I like him.  He's nice, and normal, cracks some jokes in his emails, and is trying to do a good job for the members of his credit union.  Let's just hope he doesn't need one done too often! 

I remembered a post I wrote a couple years ago about a BPO altercation that made the headlines.  Click here to read all about it!

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Janna Rankin Scharf provides a superior level of real estate service to home buyers and sellers in Coeur d'Alene and Kootenai County, Idaho. Visit www.JannaScharf.com for area information and to search for all homes in the Coeur d'Alene Multiple Listing Service. 

No matter how grand or modest your real estate dreams may be, you can turn to me in confidence.  Give me a call today so I can  be of service to you!

Janna Rankin Scharf AB, GRI, CLHMS, PMN, SFR  208.651.9700

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Comments (18)

Shannon Thomas
Selling Indy Metro, LLC - Avon, IN
Managing Broker, E-Pro, ABR,SRS, SFR

Very humorous story!  You do have to wonder how people collect so much and why?  lol.   Bpo's can be scarey to do.  I don't do them much for that reason either. 

Mar 22, 2011 09:29 PM
James Harner
Considering Selling Your Home? Call 610-310-7646 first - Royersford, PA
James Harner Group - Philadelphia PA Real Estate

if one of the instructions of a drive by is not contact the homeowners, then you're always trespassing a house whenever you're doing your BPO. 

well, someone has to do the "dirty" works, i guess =)

Mar 22, 2011 09:32 PM
Mike Mayer
Mike Mayer, Broker/Owner - i List For Less Realty, LLC - Lafayette, LA

The time commitment BPO's require to complete (and with gas prices escalating), the payout to perform them just isn't justified.

Mar 22, 2011 09:34 PM
Dan Edward Phillips
Dan Edward Phillips - Eureka, CA
Realtor and Broker/Owner

Good Morning Janna, I avoid BPO's, however doing one for a local organization, like a credit union, would be an exception.  A contribution to the local economy.

Mar 22, 2011 09:34 PM
Phil Leng
Retired - Kirkland, WA
Phil Leng - Retired

Hi Janna,

We have done over 1400 bpos.

Your story resonated with me.

It is the most work, for the least money, and the most likelyhood of altercation or danger!

We now only do them for our REO listings.

Thanks for the story

Phil

Mar 22, 2011 10:15 PM
Donald Reich
Madison Specs - New Rochelle, NY
Cost Segregation Specialist

I also stopped doing BPO's. It's just not worth the effort or hassle. I have NEVER gotten a listing from a BPO.

Mar 22, 2011 10:56 PM
Sally K. & David L. Hanson
EXP Realty 414-525-0563 - Brookfield, WI
WI Real Estate Agents - Luxury - Divorce

  We have never done them except as a part of a short sale package to substantiate the offer....and now you know and I know why...ewww ewww ewww !

Mar 23, 2011 12:24 AM
Jim Courtney
OklaHomes Realty, Claremore Oklahoma - Claremore, OK
CRS, GRI, AHWD

Wow, I have never done a bpo. I know several agents in our area who do. But your story would certainly make me think twice before actually agreeing. Glad youre safe! :)

Mar 23, 2011 02:21 AM
Andrea Swiedler
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices New England Properties - New Milford, CT
Realtor, Southern Litchfield County CT

Janna, I am sooooo glad Billy Bob and his pack of hounds didn't come after you.... oh my... oh my.... oh my....

Mar 23, 2011 04:00 AM
Endre Barath, Jr.
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties - Beverly Hills, CA
Realtor - Los Angeles Home Sales 310.486.1002

Janna, OK I have no right to complain after reading your story.....I did one about a month ago and there were 12 Police Cruisers surrounding the property, trying to take outside pictures without the police going wild on me as well as the owners.....

Mar 23, 2011 03:18 PM
David Artigliere
Reading, Pottstown, Norristown, Philadelphia - Collegeville, PA
ARTI Home Inspections, ASHI Certified Home Inspect

Great, creepy story!  My wife used to do BPOs in the city of Reading and she stopped for a different reason- she almost got shot at!

Mar 25, 2011 02:34 AM
Melissa Zavala
Broadpoint Properties - Escondido, CA
Broker, Escondido Real Estate, San Diego County

Yes, you must be living right. Be careful on your next adventure.

Mar 28, 2011 02:29 AM
Sharon Tara
Sharon Tara Transformations - Portsmouth, NH
Retired New Hampshire Home Stager

My heart was racing reading this story...I would have freaked when I realized someone was inside that house shack.  So glad you got out of there without having to meet Billy Bob face to face!

Mar 28, 2011 05:05 AM
Deborah Byron Leffler BzyBee Real Estate Lady!
Keller Williams Realty Boise - Nampa, ID

Oh Yikes....a few years ago when I was doing BPO's regularly I went and took pictures of the outside...and it was a really weird house...as I took pictures the guy came out of the house and he jumped his chain link fence and asked me for my camera.....I didn't give it to him but I gave him my card and told him I was doing my job...and acted very professional and told him the bank asked for pictures...and I didn't know why...was he re-financing?   Or maybe it was for a comp for another sale...he backed off thank goodness..and I got in to the vehicle and locked the doors!  LOL   
I don't miss them at all!!!

Mar 28, 2011 01:19 PM
Wanda Thomas
Montana Homestead Brokers, Broker, CRS, GRI, SFR, RN - Billings, MT
Billings Montana Real Estate

Oh boy, I've had the same feeling, only I couldn't get past a front gate that had signs about "attack dogs"  "no trespassing" "go ahead, if you're feelin' lucky".

Not enough money to go without an armed sworn officer in attendance!

Mar 29, 2011 05:58 AM
Anonymous
Kelli M

I want to know what you think gives you the right to post pictures publicly of properties you evaluated for professional purposes.

I don't really care if you *think* you're somehow above the occupants of this property or not, the fact is they are human beings and deserve some dignity without some snobby real estate agent posting pictures of their personal property that you technically took illegally, along with detailed expressions of disdain for their way of living. TOTALLY unprofessional if you ask me, and yes I've done BPO's -- some in the inner city and some pretty bad ones, but I would never think of being so highly of myself that I would post pictures I took for a BPO on the internet. Shame on you for your unprofessionalism. This is yet another reason why more and more people are hating on real estate agents and choose to do their own selling. People like you are professionally, one step above an ambulance chasing attorney. Maybe even one step below. Yeah, now that I think about it, one step below.

May 23, 2013 09:36 PM
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Anonymous
Brianne B

Kelli is correct. What gives you the right to not only take pictures of personal property that has nothing to do with the actual value of a property and then openly and publicly post pictures on the internet, all the while stereotyping and poking fun at someone you don't even know? Wouldn't it have been really funny if the owner of the property called the police on you and slapped you with a trespassing citation?  As real estate professionals, we run into all types of people and situations for the purposes of of helping them out- not making broad stereotypical judgments because we somehow feel that the way they live is beneath us or not what we think is to our own personal standards. You don't know this person's circumstances and even if you did, it is none of your business and certainly not open for you to post on the internet. Maybe its a good thing you don't do BPO's. Probably best to leave it to more mature people in your profession or better yet, an appraiser who has much higher standards to adhere to- such as USPAP, Appraiser Ethics Code, Dodd/Frank laws, and the Graham Leech Bliley Act. 

May 24, 2013 12:01 AM
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Anonymous
Brianne Brown, Owner/ Certified Residential Appraiser with Appra

Oh- forgot to mention since everyone who is slapping Janna on the back for a job well done is putting their "credentials" attached to their name-

 

 

May 24, 2013 12:11 AM
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