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QUESTION ANSWER & RESPONSE ; An FAQ for YOU

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Question Answer & Response ; An FAQ for YOU 

 

The Question;

 I am most interested in asking you some more precise questions... for example, the back porch, you mentioned it needed securing. (the rail) can you suggest how that would be done if we get a handyman?  I am concerned how to do it properly as last summer I inquired and the guy didn’t know how to do it, and felt it was o.k..  I had called because I thought it was wobbly. You mentioned how you would see it best done. Please recommend, so I can proceed accordingly with my sister’s handyman. I am cc’ing her as well. I thank you..and look forward to communicating with you again for other questions pertaining to your recommendations. D.

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The Answer;

Hi D,

That centre deck post is mounted on top of the deck and secured with a bunch of small brackets. This is wobbly as it depends on the screws which are small.

 

 

(1) Restructure: The correct way to build this detail would have been with a longer post that passed down through the deck and was integrated with the support structure below. This is carpentry and you need a repairman with that experience and training.

 

(2) Hardware Bracket: Another way to 'fix' the situation would be to replace the brackets with a much more substantial heavy duty bracket that could hold the post rigidly. This is hard to achieve as the length of the post results in a big mechanical advantage when someone leans against the railing. Effectively the post acts as a lever against the bracket, loosening it.

 

(3) Stiff Back Reinforcement: The handrail could be modified by attaching (bolting and lag screws  - do not use deck screws) a wide 2x6 or 2x8 board on top of the handrail and flush to the inside edge. The wider the board the stiffer the rail will be. This has to be a single board for the whole length of the handrail and has to be installed with any crown inward (and cup downward) and the edge 'fitted' to the existing railing as each bolt hole is drilled and the bolt attached.

 

This is the easiest way to correct the problem and gives a nice wide rail to rest drink glasses on or place decorative plants or other ornamentation. For appearances the same detail would be done at the side railing returning to the house wall. A strap corner bracket would be installed at the corner to prevent it from opening over time. At the posts and mid-span points of the railing wood blocking would be screwed in place underneath to counter the wider boards tendency to cup (warp).

 

Again this is carpentry that requires a full understanding of wood technology. If your handyman doesn't understand why the board has to be full length wide 2x stock with the crown in and the cup down then you need somebody else. The correct hardware and installation process is important too. The board should be preselected at the suppliers too.

Maintenance: You can see in the photo how snow (and rain water) will sit on the railing. It will be even more with a new wider railing top, so the board should be installed with a slight angle to shed water and of course be sealed to resist water penetration.

 

Should you need a referral for someone to do this please feel free to contact me.

Regards,

Robert Butler

 

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The Response;

Thank you kindly for your detailed reply.  I would appreciate a referral for this work if you please.  Thank you. I am glad to have found you as a resource!  D.

 

 

 

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Robert Butler
Aspect Inspection - Montreal West Island, QC
Montreal Home Inspector | Aspect Inspection

You are right Russel, thats why I went into the wood technology and carpentry terms.

Apr 09, 2011 01:49 AM
Malcolm Johnston
Century 21 Lanthorn Real Estate LTD., Trenton, Ontario - Trenton, ON
Trenton Real Estate

Robert, it's great to get interaction like that with clients and having them see you as a trusted resource. You obviously made a great impression on them in your dealings with them. I'm sure if anyone asks them for a home inspection referall, you'll be the man.

Apr 09, 2011 12:03 PM
Robert Butler
Aspect Inspection - Montreal West Island, QC
Montreal Home Inspector | Aspect Inspection

Thanks for commenting Malcolm. While a good referral is a positive thing for my business, the other side of the coin is that clients like 'D' need correct, informed and timely advice as well as access to the rights professionals to deal with problems and issues and not waste their money.

Handymen are valuable too and they are a reasonable economy practice most of the time, especially for the routine stuff. Knowing when to bring in a pro or a specialist is the decision homeowners, especially new ones, need help with.

Apr 09, 2011 01:25 PM