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Pre-Approval Letters...

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Real Estate Agent with Archway Realty, LLC

I will only work with with Buyers that provide a pre-approval letter.... I don't believe that a pre-approval is their ticket to getting into a home.  I view it as the Buyer's good faith effort to buying a home / property.  There is more to buying a property than a pre-approval letter....

I interview the Buyer prior to working with them. I want to know if they have any of their own funds that will be  applied to the transaction.  If they are getting gifts from family or friends then typically the funds need a 30 day seasoning.  Consequently, they neeed to know this so they can make the necessary arrangements.  I inform the Buyer that they were pre-approved on their current information.  If they have low FICO scores and high debt ratios they should not make any major purchases until after they close on their home.  If the Buyer does not volunteer the fact that they have low FICO scores or high ratios...if the pre-approval letter has a high interest rate then that should tell you that it's a sub-prime rate.  I always respect a person's desire to maintain some privacy.....I just inform all my Buyers to not  make any major pruchases until after the closing.  A lot of lenders will pull another credit report the day before the closing.  Some Loan Officers will tell you that the lenders don't do that...if you are not sure call the lender and talk to the underwriter. (get the information straight from the horsed mouth) Some Loan Officers will tell a borrower it's ok to pull a credit report several times in a certain period of time and it will not affect FICO scores...It will decrease FICO scores...I have confirmed this with Credit Plus.  If a Buyer has low FICO scores and they fall under a certain score it will have a negative impact on their borrowing power.  Credit Plus is a credit reporting company and they will answer any FICO score questions or concerns.  If you were to ask three Loan Officers the same questions you will probably get three very different answers.  The best resources are the lender's underwriter, Credit Plus or contact Fair Isaac & Co for specific questions concerning the loan, impact of credit scores, what are credit scores respectfully.

If a Buyer has less than 10% downpayment then the max Seller Contribution is 3%.  If the downmpaynent is 10% or more the Seller contribution is a max of 6%.  FHA loans allow a 6% contribution with a 3% downpayment from the borrower.  Then there is a list of nonallowables.   The nonallowables are specific closing costs that the Buyer/Borrower are not allowed to pay.  On a FHA loan there is a piggy back home improvement loan which is a good program for lender required repairs.  Lenders that do FHA loans are great resources for the underwriting guidelines.

Typically FTHB don't have a lot of money to put towards the transaction.  I ask the Buyer(s) do you want to pay for closing costs with your nest egg / savings or not.  I always inform them that I understand that it's hard to save a few thousand dollars and we can try and have the Sellers pay for closing costs so they can keep what they have saved for reserves.

Seller contributions can be taken off the List price or added to the list price.  If the seller contributions are added to the list price then that new price should be within the max loan amount that the buyer was approved for.  Additionally the property needs to appraise for the increased List price or the lender might not approve the loan.  To add a 3% seller contribution to the list price, divide the list price by .97 and that will result in the increased list price.  To increase the list price by 6%, divide the list price by .94.

example;       $100,000/.97 = $103,092.78           3% seller contribution on a List Price of $100,000

                      100,000/.94 = $106,382.98            6% seller contibution

A wonderful calculator that is user friendly is the Qualifier Plus.  You can purchase this calculator online through a company called Calculated Industries.  I can determine a Buyer's monthly payment on the spot quickly and painlessly.

Bottomline, a pre-approval letter is a Good Faith letter.  It's important to interview your Buyer to understand the holistic aspect of the transaction.

Posted by

Lauren Corna

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Derek and Mariana Wagner
The Artisan Group- Keller Williams Premier Realty - Colorado Springs, CO
The Artisan Group - Colorado Springs REALTORS®
Wow. Must have been on the same train of thought ... I just posted about What NOT to do when looking to buy a House. You have a lot of great info, here.. and I agree - a prequal IS an act of good faith.
Nov 24, 2006 05:24 PM
Chris Tesch
RE/MAX Bryan-College Station - College Station, TX
College Station, Texas Real Estate
I totally agree, a prequalification is necessary as is a buyer interview.  They need to know certain information before we even go out to look.
Nov 24, 2006 05:30 PM
Randy L. Prothero
eXp Realty - Hollister, MO
Missouri REALTOR, (808) 384-5645

We have a pre-qual where the lender just does a phone call and a credit score with the buyer and then we have a full pre-approval with docs.

The problem I see often is that Bob's mortgage service or Bill's or ABC Mortgage will send a strong letter without even pulling a credit score.  You find out they are not qualified 3 days before closing.

The secret is to use quality loan officers from quality lenders.  I have 3 different loan officers that have never let me down.  If they say the buyer is good, then I can take that to the bank or at least to their new home.

Nov 24, 2006 06:54 PM
Sharon Simms
Coastal Properties Group International - Christie's International - Saint Petersburg, FL
St. Petersburg FL - CRS CIPS CLHMS RSPS

Not only do we want buyers pre-approved when working with them, we want a pre-approval letter when an offer is submitted on one of our listings. It's the only way we can address contingencies, talk directly with the pre-approval issuer, and weigh our feelings on the issuer BEFORE our seller is under contract. If we need further information, we can then require it before the house is tied up.

What is a CNS? 

Nov 24, 2006 11:35 PM
Cynthia Sloop
Community Association Manager - Indianapolis, IN
Good information.  I too would like to know what the "CNS" stands for after your name? 
Nov 25, 2006 12:24 AM
Craig Bartels
The Indy Realty Shop - Indianapolis, IN
Great information.  I also will not show homes to people unless they are pre-qualified.  If they refuse to get pre-qualified, they are just "lookers" and are not serious right now, or they have something wrong with their credit that they don't want known.
Nov 25, 2006 01:16 AM
Suzanne Marriott
Keller Williams Arizona Realty - Anthem, AZ
Associate Broker, CLHMS, e-PRO
I researched the CNS question and found a blog about it http://activerain.com/blogsview/Dallas-Real-Estate-What-Makes-you-a-Negotiations-Specialist-?715 I'm not sure I agree with the position taken.  As a general observation, those who have expended the time, money and effort to achieve documentation of their additional education focus (designations and certifications) are rightly proud of them and would be foolish not to promote them.  Those that don't invest in them, tend to down play them.  Human nature at work?
Nov 25, 2006 02:44 AM
Lauren Corna
Archway Realty, LLC - Southlake, TX
Broker

A CNS stands for Certified Negotiation Specialist.  I took the class...

I read the Blog where one Agent feels that you should close a million dollars in sales to be able to obtain this certification.... I work with an Agent that has had alot more than that in closings and she thinks it's ok to have a 10% seller contribution on 100% financing.  That Agent came to me for advice.  I informed her that the max was a 3% seller contribution and her deal will not fly with a 10%......... Unfortunately, Quantity is not quality.

I'm a Licensed Realtor,  Licensed Loan Officer and worked in both wholesale and retail lending.  Currently working on my Mortgage Brokers License.  I have a couple college degrees too.  My nametag isn't big enough for all that...I'm thinkin about just pinning my transcripts to my jacket.... 

I find that the general public doesn't know what all the acronyms are after our names.

Nov 25, 2006 05:54 AM
Lauren Corna
Archway Realty, LLC - Southlake, TX
Broker
Suzanne- Thank you for your response.  I agree with you....It's human nature.
Nov 25, 2006 05:59 AM
Lauren Corna
Archway Realty, LLC - Southlake, TX
Broker
Benjamin-  Thank you for the information !!  I am really interested in doing commercial real estate....This is very helpful !!   I've been doing a lot of networking trying to help a German Investment Firm purchase Senior Housing.... $500 million portfolio.
Nov 25, 2006 06:36 AM
Eddy Martinez
Nationwide Funding Group - Highland Park, CA
other realtors that i deal with mention "pre-approval" letters as if they were a lenders full blown conditional approval.
Nov 25, 2006 07:24 AM
Rob Wills
Gilpin Realty Inc. - Everett, WA
I view a pre-approval as just the letter of introduction from the lender. some lenders don't even pull credit before giving out one of these.
Nov 25, 2006 10:05 AM
Kengo Ueno
Prudential Locations LLC - Honolulu, HI
(R)
Good post Lauren!!!  That's a great way to look at a pre-approval letter.  I always submit a pre-apporval letter with my offers when I can and will ask for a pre-approval letter with offers that I get for my listings also.  If the buyer is a bona fide buyer, they should be able to come in with a pre-approval letter from their lender at that time.  - Aloha
Nov 25, 2006 01:48 PM
Lauren Corna
Archway Realty, LLC - Southlake, TX
Broker

Pre-Approval Letters should include the FICO scores and the debt ratios....That would inform the Real Estate Agent what the pre-Approval is based on.  Low FICO scores with high debt ratios with an approval letter is a bad sign.  This means the Buyer is barely qualified.  It also means that if that Buyer puts one more darn thing on credit then they just screwed up their credit and possibly destroyed their chance of buying a home.

Agents should have a right to know the FICO scores and debt ratios because the Agent should be able to make an informed decision as to whether or not they want to invest their time with a buyer.

Nov 26, 2006 06:33 AM
Lauren Corna
Archway Realty, LLC - Southlake, TX
Broker

Dennis-  Thank you for your response.  You can include the rate and indicate that it is in a floating status.  A rate is important because that is necessary to determine an approximate  monthly payment.  A loan lock is determined at the time a contract has been executed.  All my pre-approval letters include a floating rate.

Seller contributions are determined by the lender.  I had already researched the seller contributions prior to my blog...I have included a general table for your review....

http://www.calhfa.ca.gov/insurance/ug_matrix.pdft  or review this website...

 https://www.johnshellington.com/mortgage_guidelines.htm

You might want to double check general underwriting guidelines for your own knowledge.  Seller contributions are applied to the downpayment and/or closing costs which are allowed by the lenders. Cash back /kick backs is considered loan fraud.  Funds held in escrow for legitimate repairs or other specified allowances....are typically acceptable by the lender. 

Thank you for your info on the Law with respect to FICO scores and DTI ratios.  I'm a Licensed Loan Officer and a Licensed Real Estate Agent.  I am also married to a Real Estate Attorney. 

One of the points to my blog is that Real Estate Agents should have the right to know a Buyer's FICO Scores as well as their debt ratios.  Real Estate Agents only get paid when the transaction closes.  A Real Estate Agent should have the right to information that will determine whether or not they want to invest their time and money with a Buyer /Borrower that has very low FICO scores and expanded ratios.  That's a borrower that could be one tank of gas on a credit card away from not qualifying.

 

Nov 27, 2006 10:31 AM
Lauren Corna
Archway Realty, LLC - Southlake, TX
Broker

Dennis-   What comment about seller concessions are you referring too?

I actually checked the underwriting guidelines to several lenders, However, I think that you or anyone with google.com can look up additional lenders if they would like several to compare the same information.

I'm not sure what your last paragraph means???

 

 

Nov 27, 2006 12:12 PM
Lauren Corna
Archway Realty, LLC - Southlake, TX
Broker

Dennis -  More websites on seller concessions;

http://loan.yahoo.com/m/finance7.html

http://www.faqfarm.com/Q/What_is_a_seller's_concession

http://www.realestateinsiders.com/information/update/98.html

http://www.preferredfhaloans.com/

http://www.wheatlandfinancial.com/program1.htm

http://realtytimes.com/rtcpages/20010329_closing.htm

Just a crazy thought....  If you would like a list of lenders to add to your current preferred lender list you can email me and I would be happy to refer several that you might want to check into.

Nov 27, 2006 01:25 PM
Lauren Corna
Archway Realty, LLC - Southlake, TX
Broker

Dennis-  How long does it take a good Loan Officer to do a Pre-Approval Letter ???  Answer;  30 minutes - 60 minutes at most.

Let's say I'm working with a couple that wants to buy a home  60 minutes away from my office.  I have to meet with them 5 times to show them properties.  That is 10 hours of just driving there and back.  I spend about 4 hours per day showing the properties  ...Do the math...  That is a very typical day of a Real Estate Agent....

   (4)(5) = 20 hours   +  10 hours of travel time = 30 hours.

Do you think that I want this transaction to close or do think it's ok that I invest this time and effort and money with a Buyer that won't close because their Loan Officer didn't properly take the time to really pre-approve them?  Or maybe they have a FICO score that barely qualifies them for a sub-prime loan and a back end ratio of 70%.  What is the likelyhood that this would close?

Answer;  zero chance to a very slim chance that this would close.

What are the chances of a person stealing anothers identity based on a FICO score and debt ratio?   Answer;  zero chances

I tend to like to do a cost benefit analysis as a practical business person.  Before I work with a Buyer, I want to know facts about whether or not they will be able to obtain financing if I'm going to spend my time with them.

As you can see, all because of the privacy issue, Real Estate Agents have to work in the dark.

Nov 27, 2006 03:04 PM
Lauren Corna
Archway Realty, LLC - Southlake, TX
Broker

Judi- 

You can apply online with Fairway Independent Mortgage Company @ http://www.fairwayindependentmc.com/

If you check out their website you can see what states they have branch locations. 

Good Luck,

Lauren

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