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Procuring Cause??

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Real Estate Agent with Nicholson and Company

Procuring Cause in Colorado as I know it.

I was recently in a class on Procuring Cause and became aware of the misconception of the subject. This is what I got out of it!  Several class members seemed to be confused and had this wrong. There are so many items that come about in arbitration to cause a panel to consider procuring cause. To discus what procuring cause is not, one it is not who first showed the property! From what I understand this concept is the threshold rule which was determined in the 70's. Well, no more! Who showed the property is only one of many items the arbitration panel will take into consideration. Of course I personally know some who got away with doing something wrong, knowing it and still got out of it, which should have never happen.

The agency agreement is another misconception of Realtors; some say I had an agency agreement with the buyer so therefore I am the procuring cause. When in arbitration the panel considers who is entitled!! The buyer agency agreement has nothing to do with the co-op compensation. The agreement is between the buyer and their agent.  According to the teacher these are two separate compensation agreements.

There are others who think that whom ever wrote the contract gets the commission. The person who writes the contract may be the procuring cause, as in the case of my friend, but not just because they wrote the offer, he himself knew exactly what he was doing.

When ever you become aware of a potential procuring cause dispute the very first thing to do is to communicate with the other broker and try to resolve. It is easier to resolve at this point than it will be half way through the transaction. If you can't resolve then do not let this crash the transaction. Allow the transaction to close even if you are the agent who will not get the commission.  You have 180 days after closing to file an arbitration request, and I have seen it happen.

An option that the board offers to Realtors is mediation. We suggest it to clients so why not us. This way maybe a mutual agreement can be obtained by all parties involved. At least here at this stage you have input, not so with arbitration. The panel will make the decision.

Anyway, I thought this was interesting..  hmmm

I have a client now that refuses to sign a buyers agreement, and has two of us working for him, thank goodness she is working with him in other areas of town.

 

 

 

 

Abe Do
Olympia, WA

Very good post...I had a similar issue.

 I contacted a public entity through a cold call on a property I had listed.  They viewed the property with me 6 times and was preparing to write up the document with their attorney when they decided they needed an agent.  They hired someone from the outside and now have an agent representing them, who is the procuring cause here?

Oct 02, 2007 06:47 AM
Cindy Nicholson
Nicholson and Company - Castle Rock, CO
Cindy Nicholson
Your right, and I myself see it in your favor, so what are you going to do? i am sure the agent will have them sign an agreement and then say that they the realtor never knew you had been spoken to about this house.
Oct 02, 2007 06:54 AM
Cindy Nicholson
Nicholson and Company - Castle Rock, CO
Cindy Nicholson
WHERE IS TSHE JUSTICE?
Oct 02, 2007 06:56 AM
Anonymous
burned buyer

I am a recent home buyer who discovered 22 days into a buyer agency agreement that the broker and us just did not communicate well. The day after asking him to release us from the agreement, on the advice of the president of his RE association, we found a property with owner financing and 50 days after closing we received a letter from the broker demanding payment of commission on a property he never showed, much less saw or was aware of.

All this after we were told by the broker that this agreement was required in CO should we want him to write a contract on a house we had found while on our pre-move visit. I'm a buyer who will never sign one again. What really sucks is that the document is positioned across the web and was presented by the broker as an agreement to protect the buyer. Now it's being used as a whipping sheet for what he claims he is owed. He called it a buyer agency agreement the day he pushed us to sign it. Now it's called a legally binding contract whenever referenced. I see it now for what it truly is... it's all about the broker.

Anyone in CO, or any other state looking for Real Estate... DON'T SIGN IT! You DON'T have to. 

Feb 13, 2008 09:18 AM
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Anonymous
burned buyer
Clarification: The RE association president recommended we ask the broker to release us from the agreement. We didn't find the property on the advice of the president of his Real Estate association.
Feb 13, 2008 09:21 AM
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Joe Public Associate Broker
Realty - Faro, YN

I hope your deal worked out for you. I also had a customer that was working two Agents on opposite sides of town. I worked with them for 3 weeks and showed up to 10 homes a day. Then they brought the Agent from the other side of town to write the contract. After it was signed the listing Agent called me. Not only had I showed them this home about 6 times, in addition I had set up a meeting with the Builder, Listing Agent Buyer and Myself to go over the Home. Then the Buyer tells me he is going to wait a while. Shows up 6 days later with the other Agent and writes the contract. The Listing Agent noticed the additional stuff the guy wanted was the result of our meeting so he called me. We tried to work with the Broker that wrote the deal, he said, "We didn't do anything wrong and we're not giving you anything." Filed for Arbitration and declined mediation. We have our hearing on the 23rd of this month. I'll let you know how it turns out.

Jul 04, 2008 11:57 AM