Make sure to consider all taxes (property, income and sales) when relocating!

By
Real Estate Agent with Progressive Realty (Boise Idaho) www.Progressive-Realty.info DB-17066

This week I have had three different clients mention major unexpected tax implications when buying real estate.

The first one asked me to sell his home for him since he miscalcuated his property taxes when he bought a new home and even though he paid cash, the annual amount is about 4x what he had planned!  When he moved here from California, he bought a brand new home and was pleased with the taxes on the home.  He thought he had done his research.  However, in Nampa, Idaho; a brand new home is only taxed on the land to start with and then they add an "occupancy tax" to it from the time the first buyer moves in through the end of that year.  Then the next year, the two are combined into a single tax bill.  He didn't realize when he bought the home, it was only on roughly a $50,000 lot and not on the $250,000 combined value!

The second client is moving to Bloomington, Illinois.  After a house hunting trip there, they asked me to cancel the listing here since property taxes in that part of Illinois have a levy code of over 7% compared to about a 1.2% levy code here!  Again, that is only part of the picture.  When I calculated out the different ways they base their assessment the property taxes were about $4,435 higher there a year based on a $300,000 home.  They didn't realize the initial tax base was only 1/3 of market value so they thought the taxes were triple that!  But wait, there is more to calculate.  The state income tax difference is huge too because here we pay 7.8% and there it is only 3%.  So if a family made $100,000 a year income, they would pay $4,800 less in income tax there in Illinois.  What looked ugly at face value really wasn't much different.  It came down to $365 difference or a dollar a day which they will have to use to pay the extra 1.5% sales tax in Illinois.

The third client is a potential buyer.  They had talked to several Realtors before they met me and none of them ever bothered to tell them about the tax impact of turning their current home into a rental.  If they had done that, they might be subject to paying capital gains on the profit they would have had tax free if they sold it and used the money to buy a rental.  The agent that has some riverfront property listed for them never bothered to mention the benefits of doing a 1031 exchange so that they could reinvest that money into a rental tax defferred.

As hard as we all work for our money these days, doesn't it make sense to "invest" your time and a little of that money talking to a CPA or financial planner about the best ways to make your money work for you?  I am just a Realtor, but I am at least smart enough to let my clients know they have options that may not be apparent to start with.  

Maybe that is why I have so many repeat clients instead of always having to find new ones?

 

 

Comments (16)

Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Excellent.  That first buyer shoulda' had a real estate agent who would have alerted him of the difference between new home taxation on land and the "after settlement" assessment which would include the improvement. 

All good analysis and why we recommend that buyers seek tax advice from a tax pro before making major decisions in areas new to them.

 

Apr 08, 2011 11:54 PM
Jim Paulson
Progressive Realty (Boise Idaho) www.Progressive-Realty.info - Boise, ID
Owner,Broker

Thanks Lenn.  I know you have done a lot of relocation transactions as well.  There is a reason why companies look at cost of living factors and offer cost of living adjustments in different areas of the US. When I worked in the corporate world 20 years ago, I received a 25% cost of living allowance when I lived in the Washington, DC area when I was a Marketing and Planning Specialist for Morrison Knudsen Corporation's Construction Group.

Apr 09, 2011 02:06 AM
Barbara-Jo Roberts Berberi, MA, PSA, TRC - Greater Clearwater Florida Residential Real Estate Professional
Charles Rutenberg Realty - Clearwater, FL
Palm Harbor, Dunedin, Clearwater, Safety Harbor

Taxes? Down here in Florida we don't pay income tax and compared to most states, our property tax and sales tax is really minimal.

Apr 09, 2011 02:06 AM
Kat Palmiotti
406-270-3667, kat@thehousekat.com, Broker, eXp Realty - Kalispell, MT
The House Kat

Good thing to keep in mind when dealing with anyone relocating into and out of our areas.  I'm not familiar with the different property taxes in various states (other than mine), so this is another area to learn about!  Thanks for the post.

Apr 09, 2011 02:26 AM
Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Jim, excellent advice. Tax implications can be a big surprise when purchasing or selling property. Deferring taxes through a 1031 is a great benefit for investors. Referring them to a 1031 expert is a must. Good Post!

Apr 09, 2011 02:31 AM
Anonymous
Anne Costello

I agree that it is very important to consider the tax ramifications for every transation. In my County, we have several school districts that have added a 1% Earned Income Tax the last few years. Almost universally, real estate taxes in those district are lower compared to distrcits without the 1%. Buyers need to evaluate the difference and decide which tax structure is best for them. For those buyers with many years of salary ahead of them - the choice to go with the 1% tax and find a home with lower real estate taxes is very attractive. However, for families close to retirement, a different choice might be in order.  Also, in Bucks County, PA, we have quite a few individuals who commute by train to their jobs in New York City. There are a myriad of tax  and travel cost implications with that decision. Families opt for a different lifestyle, range in housing prices, and other considerations. However, they need to know what their various tax liabilities will be to make a great decision.

Apr 09, 2011 03:08 AM
#6
Michael (Mike) Robinson
Broadmoor Realty, Inc. - Long Beach, CA
CRS, CIPs, REALTOR

Thanks for the reminder. This is important for investment property as well...

Apr 09, 2011 03:16 AM
Anna Tolstoy
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage - Natick, MA

Jim, excellent info and great topic. Here in MA, some towns offer "residential taxes exemption" (Brookline), while others don't. Taxes vary greatly from town to town, but the exemption is not always taken into consideration. You have to apply for the exemption (as a resident of given town), it will not be given to you automatically. Most listing agents make a note  if taxes include residential exemption, but some don't, and if buyers agent is not aware of that, and buyers doesn't look it up themselves - some people end up paying twice more in taxes. 

Apr 09, 2011 03:30 AM
FN LN
Toronto, ON

Jim - It is extremely important for people looking to purchase in a different area (and often in the same area) to contact people who are familiar with the tax rules in the area and jurisdiction where they will be purchasing for property taxes and sales taxes.  If a person is purchasing a property in a different country there are also additional income tax considerations that people in the same country may not need to take into account.  Of course, there are also US estate and gift tax issues among others that may need to be considered as well.

Apr 09, 2011 03:33 AM
Karen Feltman
Cedar Rapids/Iowa City, IA KW Legacy Group - Cedar Rapids, IA
Relocation Specialist in Cedar Rapids, Iowa

I think that alerting buyers and sellers to potential long term costs is part of our job, however, it is not part of our expertise to give advice on such things.  Recommending an accountant or financial advisor is the smartest move for you and for your client.  Thank you for the information.

Apr 09, 2011 03:58 AM
Valerie Baker
Exit Real Estate Professionals - Spokane, WA
Spokane Realtor

Jim - Another thing that people need to be aware of is the tax that they will pay when they sell a home in some states.  I have run across several potential listing clients who were surprised that they had to pay a 1.75% sales tax when they sold their home here in WA.  Many states do not have that tax.  BUT, we don't have a state income tax so the tax money has to come from somewhere!

Apr 09, 2011 06:31 AM
Dennis Duvernay Broker/Owner
Hillview Realty - Northbridge, MA

Questions that need to be asked when relocating to another state...agents need to keep buyers/sellers informed...no one wants or needs any bad surprises..

Apr 09, 2011 07:50 AM
Rosalie Evans
Meritus Group Real Estate - Sioux Falls, SD
The Evans Group, Sioux Falls, SD Homes For Sale

This is so true......in our state no income tax but higher property taxes....across the border income tax and way low property taxes. You just have to take everything into consideration to make an informed decision. 

Apr 09, 2011 12:11 PM
Fred Griffin Tallahassee Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

Ditto to Barbara-Jo post #3.   

Florida has NO State Income Tax.

It has become much easier to challenge your Property Tax Assessment - the impetus to prove value is upon the Government, not upon the property owner.

Your Principal Residence / Homestead property tax is Constitutionally protected from dramatic increases.

Corporate Taxes are targeted for reduction, and ultimate repeal, by our very conservative State Legislature, and by our new conservative Governor Rick Scott.

There is NO Sales Tax on Food or Medicine.

 

 

Apr 09, 2011 01:44 PM
Evelyn Kennedy
Alain Pinel Realtors - Alameda, CA
Alameda, Real Estate, Alameda, CA

Jim:

Even though we don't give tax advice, the buyer's agent should have advised his client of the property taxes he would be subject to.  That seems to me to be part of disclosure information the buyer should receive.

Apr 09, 2011 05:45 PM
Jim Paulson
Progressive Realty (Boise Idaho) www.Progressive-Realty.info - Boise, ID
Owner,Broker

Thanks for the great feedback everyone.  Valerie brought up a great point in #11 about the transfer taxes.  We are working to ban those in Idaho.  One community had a 5% transfer fee that went back to the original developer forever.  What a racket for perpetual income!  That wasn't a tax, it was just a revenue stream for no additional value added.

Apr 10, 2011 12:40 AM

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