Sometimes there are better mouse traps and we still don’t use them.

By
Home Inspector with Charles Buell Inspections Inc.

Usually most attempts at building a better mouse trap does not significantly deplete the number of mice to be trapped.

This fact does not keep us from trying to come up with better mouse traps.  After all, it is the American way---and many fortunes have been made from these attempts.

On a recent inspection, of a ten year old home, I came across one such “better-mouse-trap” that apparently did not catch on----at least not yet.

This mouse trap has to be the “Cadillac” of washing machine trays.  It is still surprising to see a tray at all under washing machines, so when I came across this Floodsaver I could not help but be amazed. 

Washer trays

This tray is not one of those cheap brittle plastic things that float around on the floor and has a flimsy drain that always leaks.  This one is high-density polyethylene with a real drain as durable as any shower stall drain.  The drain ran to the exterior of the home.  This tray protects the floor and wall from leaking of the supply lines, flooding due to the drain backing up, as well as leaking of the washer itself.

The termination at the exterior was very clever as well.  Since you would not want to install a trap on this drain---because then you would have to install a trap primer as well---this drain just ran to the exterior and pointed down toward the ground.  Since these trays are only for catching emergency leaks, any traps would likely dry out quite quickly.  To keep cold air and critters from going into the drain the end was sealed with a small hollow ball that would float if water had to find its way out of the pipe.

Drain ball

If you were in a jurisdiction that did not allow the pan to drain to the exterior, a trap could either be installed with a trap primer or long lasting oil trap seals can be used to prevent the trap from drying out.

 The cost of the unit pictured is about $140.00 and seems worth it, in the context of a new home.  There are models without the back wall cover and with no drain---sometimes there is just no way to drain the pan.  Then of course you would want a high water alarm or to pay attention when the dog or cat has found a new watering hole.

 

Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector

 

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Comments (31)

Jeremy Wrenn
Winslow Homes - Youngsville, NC
C.O.O., Winslow Homes

That's the first washing machine drain pan I haven't wanted to throw away!

Does it fit around the entire washing machine base?  In other words, is it big enough for a normal washing machine?  I couldn't tell from the picture.

Apr 11, 2011 06:57 AM
Don Rogers
Keller Williams Realty Chesterfield - O'Fallon, MO
Realtor, Broker, CDPE, GRI, OnullFallon MO & St Charles County MO homes

Well Charles you must admit it is a well engineered product.

Apr 11, 2011 07:06 AM
Peter Schattenfield
Turning Point Estate Services LLC - Wilton, CT
Estate Dissolution and Preparation (203)388-8092 CT.

Charles, If you factor in the kind of damage one catastrophic failure can cause...This system seem to be a bargain.

Apr 11, 2011 07:51 AM
Nina Rogoff
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Medfield, MA
Sells Real Estate!

What a great idea, Charles! I have never understood the benefit of the cheap, drain pans. If your washing machine is going to leak, it's probably not going to stay within the pan! Having one actually connected to a drain is brilliant and at the same time makes you wonder, "What took so long?" Thanks for the information!

Apr 11, 2011 08:00 AM
Donald Hester
NCW Home Inspections, LLC - Wenatchee, WA
NCW Home Inspections, LLC

Charlie,

That is one of the best I have seen. Really looks like a great design.

Apr 11, 2011 08:34 AM
Torgie Madison
Quicksilver Real Estate Solutions, LLC - Portland, OR
Websites and Contact Management

Huh, I have never heard of this type of contraption! I guess I'm currently stuck praying for my machine not to leak.

Apr 11, 2011 10:33 AM
Stephen Stanczyk
Safe Haven Home Inspections - Puyallup, WA
Home Inspector - Puyallup WA

This would be the only way to go on 2nd floors.  The subfloor for the 2nd floor is not as heavily constructed as the main floor structure and is more prone to vibration movement.  I have had two clients install the normal stand alone pans on their 2nd floor laundry areas only to remove them due to the noise and movement of the whole thing.  It seems the plastic base will move along a tile / vinyl floor easier than the rubber feet on the appliances.  My recommendation will now include a notation that the stand alone pans should have silicone applied to the bottom of the pan to either attach to the floor or as a means to stop the movement.

Apr 11, 2011 10:38 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

John, yes the flimsy ones are not worth the money

Gene, Laundries on all levels of the home are becoming more and more common.  It used to be a big deal to have a washer and dryer---now I see homes with three sets.  We have come a long way from dragging our clothes to the river.

Jeremy yes---click on the link and you can see the various types you can order.

Don, indeed

Peter, yes----would easily pay for itself

Nina--yes a drain or a high water alarm are essential

Don, I can't believe I have never seen one before this one.

Torgie, let me know if that works---sounds even cheaper :)

Stephen, they do like to dance around when they get out of balance---front loaders are much better in that respect I think.  I had one that some screwed down from the inside and then hoped for the silicone to hold :)

Apr 11, 2011 12:17 PM
Dale Ganfield
Leland, NC

Hi Charles, this is one impressive drain pan.  Thanks for sharing.

Apr 11, 2011 12:32 PM
Carl Winters
Canyon Lake, TX

Great informational blog  I'll have to check out the Floodsaver. Any time you can prevent water problems it is well worth the money.

Apr 11, 2011 12:43 PM
Mel Ahrens, MBA, Kelly Right Real Estate
Kelly Right Real Estate - Hood River, OR
Customized Choices for your Real Estate Needs

I am very impressed with the thought that went into this product and the functionality.  Wish we had it in the laundry room when our washing machine water pump ate a nickel then disintegrated, letting a flood loose.

Mel

Apr 11, 2011 01:02 PM
Gay E. Rosen
Julia B. Fee Sotheby's International Realty - Larchmont, NY
As Real as Real Estate Gets!

CHarles - the cost is so small compared to what could happen. Best, G

Apr 11, 2011 02:05 PM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Dale, yup

Carl & Ceil, I find it baffling that we haven't seen this before now.  It makes me wonder if this is a recent addition to the home instead of 10 years old

Mel, while the washers can fail as yours did---the most common leaks are from the hoses.

Gay, for sure

Apr 11, 2011 02:24 PM
Steven L. Smith
King of the House Home Inspection, Inc. - Bellingham, WA
Bellingham WA Home Inspector

Mr Charles,

Ditto on comment 18. I has noticed that when I does the attics.

Nutsy

Apr 11, 2011 03:14 PM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

That is one slick washer pan. Very organized layout.

Apr 12, 2011 01:22 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Nutsy, you do spend a lot of time there

Jim, I suspect we are going to see more of them.

Apr 12, 2011 03:04 AM
Connie Harvey
Pilkerton Realtors - Brentwood, TN
Realtor - Nashville TN Real Estate

I'd put one of those in my house any day!

Apr 12, 2011 09:56 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Love the drip pan!  Never seen one.

So, the second picture is the proverbial snow ball's chance in a vent?

Apr 12, 2011 02:17 PM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Connie, they do seem pretty cool

Jay, I am sure the ball works pretty well.

Apr 12, 2011 05:55 PM
Kelly Bogan
Equinox Real Estate - Eugene, OR
Your Gateway to the Emerald Valley in Lane County
Thanks for the link, Charles! Pretty cool. I don't know why the second floor laundry room isn't a more widespread concept.
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