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Considering Failures in Home Pricing Strategy

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Real Estate Agent with Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com SAL.2002007747

Pricing a homeConsidering Failures in Home Pricing Strategy

Sometimes pricing a home can be a bit of a struggle.  Not many (if any) comps for the particular neighborhood, especially if it's a neighborhood with a VERY limited number of homes and not much turnover.  It complicates further when the surrounding developments might not be on quite the same par with your potential listing!

What can you do?  Obviously you work with the Sold data that is available to you, but maybe that's only one or two data points, not enough to draw a conclusive price.  Maybe when you download the whole neighborhood you can get a "typical" $$$ per square foot.  Maybe you can get a consistent ratio between the tax assessor and actual sold prices.  And if there are other homes on the market, you'll use your competition as a gage of what you can attempt.

But there's another resource to view, and that it the homes that FAILED to sell in the community.  Pull the area Expireds/Cancelled/Withdrawns.  If you can draw a parallel between your listing and the homes that DIDN'T sell (assuming no deal killers for them like high tension wires, stinky odor issues, foundation issues), you may be able to take their lessons learned and apply them to price your listing for success.

Pricing Strategy

If you have repeated instances of failure at a certain price point, AND you know the marketing was good, presentation was good, the failure to sell was strictly a matter of price, then you can use that information to your advantage.  You can follow their pricing down the slippery slope to where they finally abandoned their attempts and know that potential buyers rejected that price range.  Why not leverage the market intel that these failures created?

So if your seller wants to start at a price point where these other homes failed, think hard about whether there is something exceptional about this home that will create success where others failed?  Have market conditions changed upward?  If not, you may be walking a path of frustration for both you and your seller.

Just food for thought!

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Comments(23)

Liz and Bill Spear
Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
Transaction Alliance Cincinnati & Dayton suburbs

Judy, We've got to use every resource available to increase the odds of success for our clients.

CA, We run into this in a few primary categories, developments with extremely low turnover, truly unique properties, and homes in the country where density is really low.  Hitting the waterfront properties on the nose has to be challenging.  Every seller probably remembers when everything was a $$million plus and not what the current market dictates.  We know you and Tish can handle it! :)

Apr 19, 2011 02:05 AM
Liz and Bill Spear
Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
Transaction Alliance Cincinnati & Dayton suburbs

Justin, Sometimes it's a business decision.  We've done it and will do it again IF (and we have to hit this condition), we've been very clear to the seller as to what we've established is likely to happen for price AND they've given indication that they will go down in price to where they need to be if they're wrong.  Sometimes they just have to prove it to themselves that their home isn't worth what they thought.  Without that conversation and commitment, we have passed on listings that would be badly overpriced and let someone else have them. We'd prefer every seller be willing to price it right from the start! :)

Apr 19, 2011 02:09 AM
Anita Clark
Coldwell Banker Access Realty ~ 478.960.8055 - Warner Robins, GA
Realtor - Homes for Sale in Warner Robins GA

As you mentioned, this can be a problem in areas where low sales don't give you enough choices to determine an accurate price.  Good tips on ways to come up with a valid price when the comps just aren't there.

Apr 19, 2011 02:45 AM
Liz and Bill Spear
Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
Transaction Alliance Cincinnati & Dayton suburbs

Anita, In our perfect world, we can use several different approaches to get a tight range of prices....but the world isn't perfect :)

Apr 19, 2011 02:48 AM
Janice Ankrett
Burlington, ON
Staging Professional

It is so important to set a realistic price. Your formula for pricing seems very sound.

Apr 19, 2011 04:27 AM
Jerry Newman
Brown Realty, 210-789-4216, - San Antonio, TX
Texas REALTOR, San Antonio Military Relocation

Hello Bliz, I haven't considered those expired and cancelled listings when working in an area with very few comps. Thanks for the tip.

Apr 19, 2011 04:57 AM
Liz and Bill Spear
Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
Transaction Alliance Cincinnati & Dayton suburbs

Janice, Getting it right early helps everyone involved.

Jerry, They're more of an emergency use only.  Much prefer Sold data to work with, but at least the failed attempts can help establish a ceiling for starting points.

Apr 19, 2011 05:09 AM
Nancy Conner
Olympia, WA
Olympia/Thurston County WA

Good stuff!  I usually show a seller the expired listings and word it "These are the prices that the market has rejected for similar homes".  And nobody loves being rejected :)

Apr 19, 2011 06:53 AM
Liz and Bill Spear
Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
Transaction Alliance Cincinnati & Dayton suburbs

Nancy, It HAS to make a point on the rational sellers.  Those that think they have the Hope Diamond of homes STILL probably won't be fazed! :)

Apr 19, 2011 07:12 AM
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Hello Liz and Bill --- this is a great move when someone says they want to test the market.

Apr 19, 2011 07:22 AM
Liz and Bill Spear
Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
Transaction Alliance Cincinnati & Dayton suburbs

Michael, At least everyone finds out early what their motivation is.  From there, our decision whether to accept or walk away.

Apr 19, 2011 07:25 AM
Tish Lloyd
BlueCoast Realty Corporation - Wilmington, NC
Broker - Wilmington NC and Surrounding Beaches

Boy, you really hit home with this one -- had to lean.  We are struggling to find any appropriate comps on a waterfront property AND the Client wants to be out in 6 months!  (Surely wish I hadn't dropped that crystal ball!)  We've resorted to using Comparable Actives as an influence -- a real stretch.  A lovely Client with not so lovely Comps . . .  hate to be the barer of bad news, but have to put best advice on the table.  Think I'm not going to get this one . . .

Apr 19, 2011 11:20 AM
Cindy Marchant
Keller Williams Indy NE 317-290-7775 www.marchantteam.com - Carmel, IN
"Cindy in Indy" , Realtor, Fishers Real Estate

huh...that is a great idea.  I have one that is on 25 acres that they built in 2005 in Anderson Indiana (which is pretty far north of my beloved Indy) and I am struggling.  I pulled houses and vacant lots to marry them for a price...but I'll go back and look at expireds...huh...wish I'd thought of that!

Apr 19, 2011 02:12 PM
Liz and Bill Spear
Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
Transaction Alliance Cincinnati & Dayton suburbs

Tish, Hope the client comes around.  That 6 month departure time frame changes everything.  Maybe try a downward escalating pricing structure to win them over and get them to the price they probably need to be at in time to hit their schedule.  A waterfront property without comps has to be rough.  Plan B, offer to deduct the cost of an appraisal from your commission at CLOSING if the seller will do it up front to price the home?  Know I'm reaching, but would love for you to land that listing at a rational price!

Cindy, One of those lightening bolt moments last Thursday night!  Looked at the previous pricing four years ago, the price isn't supported, we DO want the listing, but not in the high 300ks because it won't sell there.  Get it to $350k or less for list and I think we can do the job.  Hope the tip helps you!  At least we can put an upper threshold on the situation if the seller is cooperative.

 

Apr 19, 2011 02:27 PM
Dawn A Fabiszak
Private Label Realty ( Denver metro area, Colorado - Aurora, CO
The Dawn of a New Real Estate Experience!

Bliz ~ often times this happens and you really have to work at the pricing.  Not every listing price is black and white.  Love your advice.

Apr 19, 2011 03:55 PM
Liz and Bill Spear
Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
Transaction Alliance Cincinnati & Dayton suburbs

Dawn, Hopefully it's something that can help our Active Rain friends when they get that odd situation that lacks data to comp easily.

Apr 19, 2011 04:38 PM
Brian Madigan
RE/MAX West Realty Inc., Brokerage (Toronto) - Toronto, ON
LL.B., Broker

Liz and Bill,

 

This makes sense. sometimes vendors are too optimistic about their pricing. They might miss the market in the meantime.

 

Brian

Apr 20, 2011 12:56 AM
Liz and Bill Spear
Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
Transaction Alliance Cincinnati & Dayton suburbs

Brian, We'll get to use this tomorrow night at a prelist.  Small development, limited activity, and several failed attempts recently that should give us a highest price ceiling.

Apr 20, 2011 12:58 AM
Rita Fong
RE/MAX REAL ESTATE TODAY, Executive Broker 901-488-9590 - Marion, AR
Realtor - Marion Arkansas Homes for Sale

Bliz, love that idea.  I guess we are so focused on the sold listings and didn't even think of the long lost ones in the past.  That's another good way to let the potential sellers know what won't work, and hope it takes them back to the real world.

Apr 20, 2011 04:15 AM
Liz and Bill Spear
Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
Transaction Alliance Cincinnati & Dayton suburbs

Rita, Any tool that helps calibrate them to the truth of the market is a good one to have :)

Apr 20, 2011 04:20 AM