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You Need a Realistic Target in Mind When Negotiating, Otherwise You Are Just Wasting Your Time

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Real Estate Agent with Long and Foster Real Estate VA License # 0225089470

You Need a Realistic Target in Mind When Negotiating, Otherwise You Are Just Wasting Your Time

I'm pretty bent this week about the lack of negotiating skills I ran into this week when an offer came in on one of my Northern Virginia listings.  Clearly, a real estate transaction can't happen if you can't find middle ground between a Buyer and a Seller.  And in this case, while my Seller gave some clues as to what was important to him in his counters to the Buyer, the Buyer had blinders on. It was his way or the highway.  And after two counter offers, the Buyers third and final counter was actually WORSE than his second counter.  Perhaps that's just the final insult to a Seller who didn't bend over backwards to accomodate the outlandish requests by this Buyer.  It was certainly a move out of left field.

When entering into a real estate purchase negotiation, it's important to understand that while each side in the transaction has their best case scenarios, they usually can't exist and actually overlap with the other side's best interests.  So negotiations become an art of finding that middle ground between Buyers and Sellers.  And in just about every scenario, you can find that middle ground if you are realistic in terms of market value and what's customary for the market.  Both of those things are fluid and change with demand.

The reason for this failed negotiation was the Buyer mistakenly thought that he was in a Buyer's market where you can ask for a truckload of closing costs, a low sales price and still have more demands.  The reality of the current marketplace is that Northern Virginia Sellers have the upper hand.  Closing cost assistance has come down significantly.  In fact, it's becoming more and more common as this Northern Virginia Seller's market persists, to see Buyers paying their own way and paying market value for homes.  And market value for the area has been rising.  So the Buyer paid no mind to what the market comps or market stats were telling him. I would dare say, his agent probably never ran them.  He stuck with his lowball offer and was proud of it.  Unfortunately, he doesn't have a house and probably won't be getting one anytime soon.

Whenever I advise my Buyer Clients on what to offer on a home, we don't just look at list price.  We look at the comparable sales and figure out what an expected sales price would be.  That becomes the target.  From there, Buyers will generally ask for more than they expect to get, realizing that once they hit that target, or come in below it, they've done very well.

Comments(10)

Dennis Puckett
Adams,Cameron & Co. - Deland, FL

Sound advice. I always provide my buyers with comps an other stats that show what our market has been doing over the past few months.

May 06, 2011 12:18 PM
Susan Haughton
Long and Foster REALTORS (703) 470-4545 - Alexandria, VA
Susan & Mindy Team...Honesty. Integrity. Results.

Excellent advice.  And ANOTHER THING, those closing costs are NOT free to the Seller.  I get tired of hearing Buyers EXPECT them yet don't factor them in to the net to Seller. 

May 06, 2011 01:27 PM
Melanie Serrato
Melanie Serrato, Rawlings Realty ~Corona, Norco, Eastvale Ca - Norco, CA
CA Realtor - Corona-Norco-Eastvale Homes

Chris Ann ~ Your advice is right "on target" with this one!  There are always those buyers who are just going to lowball a bunch of properties to see what they can get.  I try to avoid buyers like that, or at least try to select the right type of properties where there is a shot at getting a lower offer accepted.  No point in spending my time writing a bunch of paper that's going to go nowhere.  I can't believe they had to throw in  that third counter offer, they're not likely to get anything with that kind of attitude!

May 06, 2011 01:51 PM
Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED
RETIRED / State License is Inactive - Portland, OR

EXACTLY!!  I was just having this very conversation with an AR colleague who said the deal on her listing fell out over buyers unwillingness to meet the seller -- by a difference of $5,000.  And that $5,000 would have been credited BACK to the buyer in closing costs, taxes, etc.  AMAZING how off target some buyers can be.  Also interesting about how your market is tipping to sellers now.

May 06, 2011 03:11 PM
Belinda Spillman
Aspen Lane Real Estate Colorful Colorado - Aurora, CO
Colorado Living!

Chris,  You are right.  We have found so many buyers who just want a deal and not a home these days. 

May 07, 2011 04:20 AM
Elizabeth Weintraub Sacramento Broker
Elizabeth Anne Weintraub, Broker - Sacramento, CA
Put 40 years of experience to work for you

I say the problem lies squarely with the buyers' agents who aren't educating their clients but instead stuffing them in the car and driving them around without THE conversation.

May 07, 2011 05:07 AM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Dennis:  I don't know how anyone can start negotiations without an idea of what a realisitic "win" would be.

Susan:  Me too.  Especially in Short Sales.  They think the bank is paying them and so what.  So what?  That's money that is now included in the Seller's deficiency.  UGH!!

Melanie: The third counter was mind boggling.  Oh well.

Carla:  That's what living in the shadow of the federal government can do for a market.  No matter what any party says, our government is always growing and always hiring.  Prices are still down, but they are stable, and in some places, improving slowly.

Belinda:  They feel entitled to the deal.  In our market, the deals were struck eighteen to twenty-four months ago.  

May 07, 2011 05:10 AM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Elizabeth:  Sadly, I think some of these Buyer's Agents believe in this B.S. as much as their buyers.  They think they can beat the deal out of you with verbal quips. 

May 07, 2011 05:12 AM
Not a real person
San Diego, CA

If one decides to take the highway, contact me because I have a good list of tunes to listen to while you’re rollin’ down that piece of concrete spaghetti.

May 07, 2011 04:15 PM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Russel:  Just got a new playlist together on the iPod.  Some of my favorite tunes that remind me of Spring & Summer. 

May 08, 2011 08:19 AM